The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Khaza-R]

So the Tyr concept pretty much confirms he's behind the infinites and Murozond? I suppose that is quite the twist if it ends up being the case.

Would be weird, since he specifically avoided Void stuff from Aberrus.

Indeed. Maybe Galakrond's is different for some reason. Or maybe he actually isn't going to use it himself but for other purposes.

[Xilurm]

MORCHIE. Idk why but I find that name funny.

She looks pretty cool though.

[Sondrelk]

So the Tyr concept pretty much confirms he's behind the infinites and Murozond? I suppose that is quite the twist if it ends up being the case.



Indeed. Maybe Galakrond's is different for some reason. Or maybe he actually isn't going to use it himself but for other purposes.

Looks more like the standard corrupted by whatever look. But damn if I wouldn't be down for Tyr being behind the Infinites with the intention of "fixing" the timeways to ensure the Titan Keepers keep their hegemony.

[Cheezits]

So the Tyr concept pretty much confirms he's behind the infinites and Murozond? I suppose that is quite the twist if it ends up being the case.

It might be an alternate but I can absolutely see him being the real leader and rebelling against everything, he already didn't seem to like the Titan edicts.

Also, if that's true, this makes the SILVER hand being the leader of the silvery Infinites one of the longest/smartest reveals of all time. (It's definitely a new thing but what if it wasn't?)

[Ersula]

That actually explains so much. But Tyr isn't going to be corrupted: As of right now, all we know about his conflict with Loken was because Loken wanted to let the "flesh" races continue to develop. Tyr is the source of the infinite: He wants to undo the flesh races so I predict the first thing he does is take control of Nozdormu, transforming him into Murazond with the goal to go back & stop the mortal races from developing.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Looks more like the standard corrupted by whatever look. But damn if I wouldn't be down for Tyr being behind the Infinites with the intention of "fixing" the timeways to ensure the Titan Keepers keep their hegemony.

Oh yay another Titan Keeper to slay. I do not want Tyr to go bad(Minus if its nobodys fault/its a tragedy and the Aspects have to face their old friend).

[Cheezits]

Oh yay another Titan Keeper to slay. I do not want Tyr to go bad(Minus if its nobodys fault/its a tragedy and the Aspects have to face their old friend).

I think it may be a case of "this is my choice" as opposed to LOL CORRUPTION, there have been hints throughout DF that Tyr is NOT the "wise loving daddy" that Alex makes him out to be.

[Kiivar86]

I would advise against jumping to conclusions on the infinite Tyr concept art. It could be any number of things.

[Houle]

I mean, that thing in the pictures with Galakrond is probably the disc containing Tyrs memories, that the Infinites (!) threw into the timeways, isnt it?
Perhaps it was corrupted by them while doing that, so when we use it to bring Tyrs mind into his newly crafted body, hell be in a corrupted state.

Oooooor hes actually the creator of the Infinites from the start. Both are possible atm

[Nymrohd]

I'd say maybe the Infinites used the disk to create their version of Tyr so he could empower Murozond to Aspect level and we kill him and take back the disk so we can awaken OUR Tyr.

[Cheezits]

I mean, that thing in the pictures with Galakrond is probably the disc containing Tyrs memories, that the Infinites (!) threw into the timeways, isnt it?
Perhaps it was corrupted by them while doing that, so when we use it to bring Tyrs mind into his newly crafted body, hell be in a corrupted state.

Oooooor hes actually the creator of the Infinites from the start. Both are possible atm

Or Iridikron is downloading the mind of Tyr into Galakrond!!!

[Houle]

Or Iridikron is downloading the mind of Tyr into Galakrond!!!

Thats so stupid, i could see Danuser go for it.

[Darkarath]

This is quite a lot for a .5 patch. Cannot wait for the PTR stuff that we will see tonight.

The most important thing above all is, by far, the Evoker spec. For me, the Augmentation spec confirms that in 11.0 we will get several new specs for current classes, most of them focused on this new support style.

As for the dungeon, there is no way that Iridikron dies there. What I see possibly happening is that, either he unleashes Galakrond into our timeline, or he gets the Decay power out of him and becomes the new Undead threat that WoW needs after SL killed the charm of The Plague.

Unless something really surprising happens, there is no way in which we are dealing with all the Incarnates in this expansion.

About Tyr, he just could be like Morchie. Another Tyr from another timeline that got corrupted. Too soon to speculate there. Although It is clear that Tyr was not as good at the Aspects think.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I would advise against jumping to conclusions on the infinite Tyr concept art. It could be any number of things.

I would hope so. I am a bit not too keen on this Anti Titan angle. Interesting as it is.

As for the dungeon, there is no way that Iridikron dies there. What I see possibly happening is that, either he unleashes Galakrond into our timeline, or he gets the Decay power out of him and becomes the new Undead threat that WoW needs after SL killed the charm of The Plague.

Unless something really surprising happens, there is no way in which we are dealing with all the Incarnates in this expansion.

About Tyr, he just could be like Morchie. Another Tyr from another timeline that got corrupted. Too soon to speculate there. Although It is clear that Tyr was not as good at the Aspects think.

Specualtively I had thought Decay is sorta slightly related to Death in terms of Magic and I do kinda like the idea of the Scourge theme and such staying onwards since its so iconic to the series, hard to let it go.

[BaumanKing]

With lightforged warlocks we're one step closer to void elf and forsaken paladins. This is good news. Hopefully draenei will also get man'ari skins.

[Dracullus]

As someone who just started professions on alts, I hope Renown to become truly account wide. Its no fun to see pattern you want locked behind 20 Renown after you already grinded it first two months of expac.

[Cheezits]

"I’ve removed the reference for now since it’s not directly about facing Galakrond directly but facing the fallout from Galakrond’s demise. We’ll share more details about the mega-dungeon a bit later in development in a stand-alone article."

Oh he dead dead

Nice that they were honest about it. Hopefully he does come back or is involved in the fight somehow.

[Nymrohd]

This is quite a lot for a .5 patch. Cannot wait for the PTR stuff that we will see tonight.

The most important thing above all is, by far, the Evoker spec. For me, the Augmentation spec confirms that in 11.0 we will get several new specs for current classes, most of them focused on this new support style.

This definitely opens up so much speculation. You cannot just add ONE supporter spec into the mix. Sure you start with one to check if it works (and if it doesn't they can always turn it into a more conventional dps with strong support elements like an Enhancement shaman). But if the experiment is successful, I absolutely could see 2-3 classes getting an additional spec that works as support. I'd say Shaman and Paladin are obvious choices and I could see them touching on some of the pures like e.g. a Bard spec for Rogues.

I am guessing the PTR will go live with just Augmentation for at least a couple of weeks.

[micwini]

Looks like regular ol' Iridikron is the final? boss.

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Maybe Galakrond isn't a real boss? I can kind of see why.

Is that Iridikon standing in front of..... himself?

[Cheezits]

This definitely opens up so much speculation. You cannot just add ONE supporter spec into the mix. Sure you start with one to check if it works (and if it doesn't they can always turn it into a more conventional dps with strong support elements like an Enhancement shaman). But if the experiment is successful, I absolutely could see 2-3 classes getting an additional spec that works as support. I'd say Shaman and Paladin are obvious choices and I could see them touching on some of the pures like e.g. a Bard spec for Rogues.

I am guessing the PTR will go live with just Augmentation for at least a couple of weeks.

I can see Bard appearing in some way but otherwise? I don't see how supporter really fits into many of the existing classes that already heal.

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Is that Iridikon standing in front of..... himself?

That's Chromie.