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    I'm watching it again, because I'm nuts. Yea, Metzen is making it clear this is like a finale. His own words "A storyline in almost every way, that feels like the culmination of the first 20 years of our storytelling" This is right after he's talking about the titans and what their "true" intentions may be since the dawn of civilization.

  2. #54942
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    I'm watching it again, because I'm nuts. Yea, Metzen is making it clear this is like a finale. His own words "A storyline in almost every way, that feels like the culmination of the first 20 years of our storytelling" This is right after he's talking about the titans and what their "true" intentions may be since the dawn of civilization.
    He also said he expects another 20 years of World of Warcraft, so, I wouldnt be too worried about a finale.

    The only idea I found outright 'concerning' was with Midnight when he stated we'd 'destroy the void for good' or whatever the exact quote. The Void feels like too big a force to just never have again.
    Last edited by kavikor; 2023-11-03 at 10:44 PM.

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    Looks like Hallowfall is the best looking zone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    I'm watching it again, because I'm nuts. Yea, Metzen is making it clear this is like a finale. His own words "A storyline in almost every way, that feels like the culmination of the first 20 years of our storytelling" This is right after he's talking about the titans and what their "true" intentions may be since the dawn of civilization.
    The Light and Life (and non-Legion demons) still are out there to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    I'm watching it again, because I'm nuts. Yea, Metzen is making it clear this is like a finale. His own words "A storyline in almost every way, that feels like the culmination of the first 20 years of our storytelling" This is right after he's talking about the titans and what their "true" intentions may be since the dawn of civilization.
    He also said: And making the way for the next 20 years.

  6. #54946
    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    So the Binary riddler may have been right?
    The last hint given was an image of a black planet cracked with gold lines according to ercap's imgur album. That is exactly what the background of the logo is this time - Azeroth cracking open.
    Considering everything else was very very wrong, I'd chalk that up to a lucky guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrana View Post
    So, what would be your reaction, if you found out, that come cata release first patch, blizzard were planning to kill everyone by sending a bear through the mail?

  7. #54947
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    I imagine we'll get the nerubians later, though I'm really not a fan of the new humanoid design. They have dracthyr syndrome in that they don't really look at all like what they're supposed to be, albeit even moreso than the dracthyr. I was hoping we'd get something more like the seers.
    I imagine they'll continue adding Allied Races, or maybe it's just because thats what we did when we got the "original" batch. But I also feel like people shouldnt hold out for it just in case.

  8. #54948
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    When did she say that?

    I remember the Void Lords telling her to seize the throne of Silvermoon in that pre-BfA comic (that she brushed off), but I don't remember that Sunwell bit.

    They've already told us what Midnight is about. It's not a faction war/elven war. Quite the opposite, in fact; it's about the elven groups coming together with the Light to defend Quel'Thalas from the Void.
    Hey, if the story is about Alleria going Darth Vader mode they wouldn't tell us that right now. You tell me why the Void Elves would want keep the Sunwell under control of Light-worshipers? Xal'atath is closer to a Void Elf than an Old God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebron View Post
    Delves, yeah, that's new, and I hope it's cool, but didn't excite me too much sounds a bit like mainly a single player scenario that will get boring after a month or two.
    Sounded more like a reboot of scenarios to me; flexible content for smaller groups that can be made challenging without an m+ timer, and possibly for those with shorter time availability (think quick arena matches). Like Torghast but more classically dungeon-themed.

    I'm not hyped about them, but I would not be surprised if they are a bit of a sleeper hit with at least a portion of the playerbase.

  10. #54950
    Quote Originally Posted by blaatschaap View Post
    Gorschalach is explicitly non-canon as the origin of the two swords. So taeschalach's existence in the game has no bearing on the sword of sargeras
    Old canon isnt automatically disqualified from being brought in. A bunch of stuff in BfA was only in the old non-canon RPGs, like Lucille Waycrest.
    Taeshalach is a broken sword wielded by Aggramar. Sargeras has a sword like he did in the old canon. It's not a stretch to assume that when the sword is actually given a name, that the name will be Gorribal to reference teh sword Sargeras has in the old canon.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  11. #54951
    Quote Originally Posted by kavikor View Post
    He also said he expects another 20 years of World of Warcraft, so, I wouldnt be too worried about a finale.
    Ya for sure. I just mean there does seem to be an emphasis on somewhat of a separation, what I've seen people mention as Wow2, or a sequel of sorts. If it's not going to be a sequel, maybe Azeroth changes completely as we know it.

  12. #54952
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    Looks like Hallowfall is the best looking zone
    Fresh, non-claustophobic, with an elegant twist of changing between a light and void themed zone as a replacement of day-night mode? It wins by a wide margin.

  13. #54953
    Quote Originally Posted by Nebron View Post
    Fresh, non-claustophobic, with an elegant twist of changing between a light and void themed zone as a replacement of day-night mode? It wins by a wide margin.
    Definitely one of the more creative ideas we've seen lately. I have to appreciate the creativity.
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    The frozen Mind cracks between the mineral staves which close upon it. The fault lies with your mouldy systems, your logic of 2 + 2 = 4.
    — Antonin Artaud, 1956

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    I'm watching it again, because I'm nuts. Yea, Metzen is making it clear this is like a finale. His own words "A storyline in almost every way, that feels like the culmination of the first 20 years of our storytelling" This is right after he's talking about the titans and what their "true" intentions may be since the dawn of civilization.
    I tihnk it's a finale in the sense that FFXIV's Endwalker was a finale. Not over for the game/IP, but a culmination of the story to date that then allows them to move on to something new.

  15. #54955
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Even if they know there is a Titan inside Azeroth, why would they immediately assume the voice is said Titan? Sure, it's a possibility, but it could be any number of things with a world as weird as Azeroth.
    They're also seeing a glowy orb when they're being spoken to. There are no small amount of adventurers who, as of now, canonically killed a big bad that was visibly in front of a glowy orb that they know is the world soul.

    Really this is all BFA->SL's fault for blowing that load early. This is what should've been built to all along without those individual stories (give Anduin some other source of trauma that was actually his fault, get Thrall back in the game some other way) without Chronicle being randomly called into question and Watsonian.

    Better late than never.

    Quote Originally Posted by blaatschaap View Post
    Gorschalach is explicitly non-canon as the origin of the two swords. So taeschalach's existence in the game has no bearing on the sword of sargeras
    Then what's Gorschlach? It's not confirmed or anything, it's not 100% or absolute canon, but it's stated by name in the trinket the same guy drops as the other sword in question.

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    Ok, if this screenshot had leaked before Blizzcon, how many people would have called it AI ?


  17. #54957
    Quote Originally Posted by Nebron View Post
    Fresh, non-claustophobic, with an elegant twist of changing between a light and void themed zone as a replacement of day-night mode? It wins by a wide margin.
    I mean, Khaz Algar and the Isle of Dorn is beautiful

  18. #54958
    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    I'm watching it again, because I'm nuts. Yea, Metzen is making it clear this is like a finale. His own words "A storyline in almost every way, that feels like the culmination of the first 20 years of our storytelling" This is right after he's talking about the titans and what their "true" intentions may be since the dawn of civilization.
    To be fair, they said something similar to this about Shadowlands, too. Could just be empty hype.
    "We will soon be in a world in which a man may be howled down for saying that two and two make four."
    — G.K. Chesterton, 1926
    The frozen Mind cracks between the mineral staves which close upon it. The fault lies with your mouldy systems, your logic of 2 + 2 = 4.
    — Antonin Artaud, 1956

  19. #54959
    Quote Originally Posted by kavikor View Post
    He also said he expects another 20 years of World of Warcraft, so, I wouldnt be too worried about a finale.

    The only idea I found outright 'concerning' was with Midnight when he stated we'd 'destroy the void for good' or whatever the exact quote. The Void feels like too big a force to just never have again.
    Villains need to be vanquished, permanently. No more of this "you beat them but they escape to continue haunting the franchise in the future" stuff. Blizzard needs to be creative and come up with new original factions, and they need to relearn how to execute good storytelling to get people invested in those new factions again.

  20. #54960
    Quote Originally Posted by Cherry123 View Post
    Ok, if this screenshot had leaked before Blizzcon, how many people would have called it AI ?
    At that resolution? Probably nobody. AI could simply not.

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