The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[kavikor]

Honestly of the whole announcement, the only thing meh to me is the Hero Talents... the list they showed is really underwhelming. I got my hopes up when I heard Far Seer, Dark Ranger, Keeper of the Grove. Thought they were going to cover all the old WC3 stuff + some long asked for stuff.

The fuck is Fatebound? Where is Necromancer? Tinker? Spellbreaker? Shadow Hunter? BLADEMASTER? HELLO?

No we got.... Slayer..... Deathstalker?


I wanted these to be more cosmetic/spell FX. It's all boring numerical passives and mechanics.

Let down on this one, sorry.

Deathstalker is a lore class.

Its what the Forsaken call their assassins/scouts/etc

[Vakir]

Tbf, I think that's easy to hand wave away after the Dawn of the Infinites. Unless I'm mistaken we've now deviated from the "true timeline" so old prophecies might be out the window.

Right, either way, it's not a given.

You know who is getting super old? Me, waiting for the same features for two decades to be added to this game.

It's a meta commentary! /s

[kavikor]

See here is my issue. Half the time when Blizzard introduces a race, I don't actually get an archetype I want for that race because of the class system. The obvious example is gnomes; I'd absolutely play a tinker gnome if I had that but alas. But for me it is even a problem with more versatile races; my favourite flavour of "high elf" is the bladesinger, i.e. warcraft's spellbreaker and spellblade. But I don't get to play it in WoW do I? Look at trolls, their thematic classes are witch doctor, hydromancer, shadow hunter, loa priest. NONE of them are playable. Sure you have Forsaken but you cannot be an Apothecary or a Necromancer. They add Kul Tirans but can you play a Tidepriest? Not really. They add Zandalari but can I be a priest of the Loa? Nope. Heck even the druids they did add do not use the forms common among the loa but some random dinocat and bear (and they did not even bother to create some new Loa who use those forms). They are adding Earthen but will we get to play Runecasters? Nope. Void Elves at least get shadow priests but then we get the team in BfA and they have a voidstalker and a void knight and maybe the former could be a subtlety rogue but what is the latter?

So yeah, new races rarely excite me. Because if I do get them, it's not like I will be able to play the archetypes of their NPCs. MAYBE I'll get a facsimile. So I stick to my human paladin, my orc shaman, my night elf druid because those DO fit their archetypes perfectly.

Yeah, I can see this idea. I'm excited for Earthern and play Shammy/Warr so Mountain Thane and just... elements and everything kinda lined up

[ercarp]

Super spitball, but maybe there's some time travel shenanigans?

Well, they seem to have some kind of Naaru crystal/spaceship stuck in their cave's ceiling. Maybe it's a timeship...

[Arenis]

*moved to other topic*

[Revamp Man]

And still Holly said 10.2 is the last raid of the expansion.

They also called 10.1.7 a major content update

[Vakir]

Why are people hoping and expecting time travel shenanigans to just riff off Endwalker even more?

[Gigantique]

Night elves too; the night elves include ancient Highborne among them

Yeah I just left Nelves/Nightborne out of it since it's about Quel'thalas specifically so might be referring to the act of uniting the natives of that region together again.

Nelves, Nightborne and Highborne might help them but they have their own homes so my guess is that the uniting part would be between the three factions of Quel'thalas.

Which is what they should have used instead of tribes imo. Factions.

[ercarp]

Why are people hoping and expecting time travel shenanigans to just riff off Endwalker even more?

I didn't even know Endwalker had time travel shenanigans because I don't play FFXIV.

I'm hoping for time travel shenanigans because time travel shenanigans are cool.

[Revamp Man]

So this year blizzcon seemed more of a let down but apparently some of that can be contributed to the venue and security company

[Vakir]

I'm hoping for time travel shenanigans because time travel shenanigans are cool.

They've definitely had no poor consequences for WoW's lore.

[kavikor]

Why are people hoping and expecting time travel shenanigans to just riff off Endwalker even more?

How is War Within close to Endwalker

[PotHockets]

They've definitely had no poor consequences for WoW's lore.

And? Time Travel has also been awesome in WoW. Like the Caverns of Time stuff is always recieved really well. People like bronze shenanigans. Just because WoD turned into a train wreck doesn't mean it always will be.

[vintage79]

Why are people hoping and expecting time travel shenanigans to just riff off Endwalker even more?

well, how about the Sunwell ending ending as the cradle of Kel'thuzad's remains/and Silvermoon as a whole being destroyed in the tying of the warcraft story?

yea 'we go back to the old world'

time travel af

[ercarp]

They've definitely had no poor consequences for WoW's lore.

WoD wasn't bad because it was a time travel expansion. It was bad for pretty much every reason except that one.

Basically everything they've ever done with time travel outside of WoD (remember Caverns of Time?) has been extremely well received by the player base.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

So this year blizzcon seemed more of a let down but apparently some of that can be contributed to the venue and security company

What's the story here?

[ercarp]

well, how about the Sunwell ending ending as the cradle of Kel'thuzad's remains/and Silvermoon as a whole being destroyed in the tying of the warcraft story?

yea 'we go back to the old world'

time travel af

"Old World" is the colloquial term people use to refer to older areas of the world. Mostly EK and Kalimdor, but Metzen also used it to refer to Northrend.

(I don't know if this is what you're saying but I've genuinely seen more than a handful of people confused by the term in thinking it means we're traveling backwards in time.)

[Kiivar86]

Amuses me how so many people apparently really misunderstand the usage of "old world".

[vintage79]

"Old World" is the colloquial term people use to refer to older areas of the world. Mostly EK and Kalimdor, but Metzen also used it to refer to Northrend.

(I don't know if this is what you're saying but I've genuinely seen more than a handful of people confused by the term in thinking it means we're traveling backwards in time.)

it could be it - but 'sunwell' does not exist for a long time

in my opinion - it will be a start of (partial) revamp

and I see it as *the culling of stratholme invaded by infinite dragons*
(Quel'thalas & Voids)

[pacotaco]

Im pretty sure almost every flying mount from now on will be.

It actually saves resources, instead of doing 10 different mounts, they do 1 with several pieces that you earn separately.