The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Myrrh]

Did anyone else see that the Cata Classic mount is a flying Ragnaros? made me LOL

His stupid lil face on that elemental model definitely gave me the giggles

[Ersula]

I wonder where is Turalyon and why Alleria suffer alone as if she has no one close to her to help her.
Also i bet they forgot Alleria has a son.

He's busy running the entire Alliance, and I bet Alleria's adult son kind of resents them considering he was effectively abandoned. As time goes on Alleria & Turalyon seem like progressively bad people.

[damonskye]

But up to now there is no statement how many difficulties these delves will have. And how progression will work. Will it, like scenarios in MOP, simply drop caches again with a small reward? Or will it somehow implement bigger challenges for those that want better gear? And how will it prevent raiders and mythic+ players from feeling the dark urge to have to run delves to optimize gear?

All good questions, but I'm kind of stunned people expect an answer to all of this today.

I remember back when the Argus patch was announced by Ion at Blizzcon and there was a ton of "what ifs" and "are we doing xs" questions and people were freaking out... and literally all we were given was one single image and his "we're going to Argus." And that's all we got, and yet the patch basically sustained us through, what, six months? Longer?

[Supertoster]

Imagine being this mad.

Imagine simping for a company that did OW2 PvE thing)

[Myrrh]

He's busy running the entire Alliance, and I bet Alleria's adult son kind of resents them considering he was effectively abandoned. As time goes on Alleria & Turalyon seem like progressively bad people.

Arator character progression stonks cautiously rising for 12.0

Imagine simping for a company that did OW2 PvE thing)

Anything that isn't obsessive doomerism is simping

[meroes]

If there's a Dark Ranger hero spec there needs to be a 'good' version based on Alleria.

[Nymrohd]

All good questions, but I'm kind of stunned people expect an answer to all of this today.

I remember back when the Argus patch was announced by Ion at Blizzcon and there was a ton of "what ifs" and "are we doing xs" questions and people were freaking out... and literally all we were given was one single image and his "we're going to Argus." And that's all we got, and yet the patch basically sustained us through, what, six months? Longer?

We have a deep dive tomorrow. I assume we will learn more. And I expect early alpha to be delve focused exactly like early alpha for Shadowlands was 100% Torghast. Delves are hopefully the culmination of Deaths of Chromie+Island Expeditions+Torghast.

[damonskye]

Imagine simping for a company that did OW2 PvE thing)

Different team at the company.

Nobody shot your dog, dude. Relax. You'll find out much more about the expansion in the next, oh, probably 10 months, possibly all of which will show you that your initial overreactions are way off base.

[Nymrohd]

He's busy running the entire Alliance, and I bet Alleria's adult son kind of resents them considering he was effectively abandoned. As time goes on Alleria & Turalyon seem like progressively bad people.

? The planet blew up and they were stuck in the Nether.

[Dracullus]

This is the kind of thing we need to press on them during the beta.

Yes, game should be like Diablo 4 on this. Doesn't matter what you play, you progress your account. Of course there should be always way to repeat any content you want - not only on alts, on your main too.

I would go even further. If all transmog is account wide, what's even point of repeating same quests? Just make toys, similar to exploration ones, that finish all zones on continent for you if you are max level. No more ton of random quests everywhere which you have 0 interest in cause you already done them.

Of course to avoid being jack-of-all-trades in professions, it still would have to be limited some way. But Blizzard already intenveted solution for this - knowledge points. Just make them universal currency with limited ways to obtain them on single character.

Second way could be also picking 2 active professions on single character, just like today, still with account wide recipes of course. Switching profession would cost let's say 5-10k gold, so it isn't punishing if you really want to switch it, but makes trying to get rich on using all professions impossible.

[hattahat]

Maybe in the Last Titan expansion, we'll be fighting the Titans instead of the Void, with Aman'thul as the final boss, for example. Didn't the announcement mention the suspicious side of the Titans?

[Varodoc]

I wonder where is Turalyon and why Alleria suffer alone as if she has no one close to her to help her.
Also i bet they forgot Alleria has a son.

Anduin doesn't want to rule, so Turalyon is busy keeping Stormwind together.

Alleria was always action-oriented and didn't want to remain idle during a major crisis. This defines her character, so it makes sense that she leads the investigation of the World Soul while Turalyon, who was always the more "diplomatic" of the two, stays in Stormwind and rules.

As for Arator, they remembered him in the Corrupted Visions. Let's see if the vision will come to pass and Alleria will actually sacrifice his son to the Void.

[meroes]

Maybe in the Last Titan expansion, we'll be fighting the Titans instead of the Void, with Aman'thul as the final boss, for example. Didn't the announcement mention the suspicious side of the Titans?

Seems a little boring but it does work as a possible ending for WoW for WoW 2.

[damonskye]

We have a deep dive tomorrow. I assume we will learn more. And I expect early alpha to be delve focused exactly like early alpha for Shadowlands was 100% Torghast. Delves are hopefully the culmination of Deaths of Chromie+Island Expeditions+Torghast.

Yeah, and that panel will clear up a few things, but the faceragers here will continue to rage, I guarantee it.

Delves sound like a great new feature (though the Warband thing is the best part of the whole thing!)

[Ersula]

? The planet blew up and they were stuck in the Nether.

Both Parents elected to go fight in a War. They weren't forced to. And they knew they might never come back anyway, in the form of dying in that war. Did they even win that war? Did it matter because the planet was going to explode anyway? Awful Parenting on every level.

[Supertoster]

It is absolutely hysterical to me to see posts like this, from people who have literally seen a brief overview and 45 minutes of basic artwork & thematics, and think they have everything figured out and that it's "less content than Shadowlands."

You have no effing idea how much content there will be.

They have barely scratched the surface of their content. We've only gotten dungeon names and a basic idea of what the first raid looks like.

Seriously people, eyes on the ball here.

Lessons learned from previous expansion reveals. It is called "experience".
Do we get a new class? No. Do we get a new races? Nope. Do we get new profession? Nope. Do we get something new for PvP? Nope. Do we get new core gamemodes? Kinda nope, because Delves looks exactly like glorified MoP scenarios.

So what exactly new we get? New art. Which looks amazing, but it is not worth to be called a content.

[Nymrohd]

"And then blizzard listened to the raiders and nerfed the rewards fron LFR|Scenarios|heroic dungeons|<insert new component here>"

But it did not happen. The reverse did. Raiders are clearly no longer getting special privileges. You can gear much faster through M+.

[Vlyse]

Maybe in the Last Titan expansion, we'll be fighting the Titans instead of the Void, with Aman'thul as the final boss, for example. Didn't the announcement mention the suspicious side of the Titans?

Would love this. This was my guess for an Avaloren xpac final boss, tbh. I totally see Blizz subverting expectations and making Aman'thul the main antagonistic titan at this point, instead of Sargeras.

[meroes]

After the third expac (presumably the conclusion for WoW as we know it), which race will come out as most heroic?

[damonskye]

Maybe in the Last Titan expansion, we'll be fighting the Titans instead of the Void, with Aman'thul as the final boss, for example. Didn't the announcement mention the suspicious side of the Titans?

Anyone who's ever watched Babylon 5 knows what happens, when we meet a more advanced race everyone thinks is good, and we start warring with a more advanced race everyone thinks is bad... and it turns out they're both pretty much the same, just two sides of the same coin.

I genuinely think this is where we'll be at the end of The Last Titan.