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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkan View Post
    Well.. They aren't worshipping the old gods, are they? They're worshipping the void.
    Doesn't surprise me. This distinction was also present as an undertone of the Xal'atath teasers we got today. Basically, she watched on while the Old Gods got bodied, so she's going to try a more direct approach this time.

  2. #55502
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    It will not be negligible as far as the game economy is concerned. Early advantages in crafting etc translate into massive gold gains every single expac.
    Fair point. People will be paying for a time limited opportunity to make lots of extra gold. Also pretty gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Wait, where the hell is Wratheye the Gnoll going to be?
    Xal is carrying with her Galakrond's hunger. Probably is needed for her to EAT Azeroth? Maybe the decay story arc will link with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trurebel1 View Post
    Anyone else feel like worldsoul saga is to hide a huge budget cut to wow xpacs? Next xpac feels really barebones so far.... if it was released alone it would get tons of hate
    Next xpac looks like at least the same amount of strictly-defined content (zones, raids, dungeons, quests, race, etc) as Dragonflight with two-three class-enhancing/altering gameplay paths for every single spec in the game, plus a new gameplay element/vault reward option (delves), plus unprecedented QoL improvements, and we barely know anything yet.

    It's at least as much as we have now and then some and the ambition shown would, to me, indicate an increase in staff and budget if anything? I'm not sure why you think this exactly. What indicates a decline in budget from DF to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Assuming that TWW launches at least a month before Midnight, then yes, though it will be awkward if the TWW patch content isn't out before Midnight's trailer and players get big spoilers for the next TWW patch.
    I mean Cris Metzen himself said that revealing all the expacs together is huge spoilers

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    Quote Originally Posted by damonskye View Post
    Fine. You've made up your mind based upon a couple of Twitch videos and you know everything. Now, go rage in your corner for a few hours. Get it out of your system. No one -- NO ONE -- is holding your feet to the fire, demanding that you pay for the next expansion, so all you're doing is blowing smoke here.

    Meanwhile, the sensible ones around here will continue to accept that we've barely scratched the surface of an expansion coming out in a year's time and there is plenty left to reveal.
    Sorry for not being a part of your delusional fanboyism hivemind.
    Man, we survived Shadowlands disaster and people like you still did not learn their lessons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostFish View Post
    Fair point. People will be paying for a time limited opportunity to make lots of extra gold. Also pretty gross.
    And this will translate into an advantage for raiding as well; imagine if there is some crafted item that is BiS for multiple specs (which happened with DF). If people have a head start on grinding for it, that's big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trurebel1 View Post
    Anyone else feel like worldsoul saga is to hide a huge budget cut to wow xpacs? Next xpac feels really barebones so far.... if it was released alone it would get tons of hate
    It's more stuff than DF, with more creativity and a more interesting story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trurebel1 View Post
    Anyone else feel like worldsoul saga is to hide a huge budget cut to wow xpacs? Next xpac feels really barebones so far.... if it was released alone it would get tons of hate
    The real question I think is how much patch content each expansion will get.

  10. #55510
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdslime View Post
    Next xpac looks like at least the same amount of strictly-defined content (zones, raids, dungeons, quests, race, etc) as Dragonflight with two-three class-enhancing/altering gameplay paths for every single spec in the game, plus a new gameplay element/vault reward option (delves), plus unprecedented QoL improvements, and we barely know anything yet.

    It's at least as much as we have now and then some and the ambition shown would, to me, indicate an increase in staff and budget if anything? I'm not sure why you think this exactly. What indicates a decline in budget from DF to you?
    I mean I cannot imagine thirteen delves not being the equal of at least one full zone in area, if not more than that. Unless they are simply instanced versions of the world like some of MoP's scenarios (though that would be welcome as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    Budget reallocation for WoW 2.
    Maybe but maybe they were really hurting for cash and the timing with the acquisition made it a bit awkward budget wise so they just said fuck it the next xpac will start with a shoestring budget but we'll make some HUGE promises for the future so microsoft will feel compelled to deliver and throw tons of money at wow future patches and xpacs...this could also be me just coping lol..
    . It could also be budget reallocation for WoW 2 that Microsoft might be designing that will be playable on xbox and pc as well as gamepass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertoster View Post
    Sorry for not being a part of your delusional fanboyism hivemind.
    Man, we survived Shadowlands disaster and people like you still did not learn their lessons.
    You might want to re-read your posts, you know. You're making a fool out of yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    It's more stuff than DF, with more creativity and a more interesting story.
    DF had new class/race, which alone is already more than anything we saw today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scyth View Post
    I was also hoping to see Iridikron, but I guess he and Xal are going at it separately. Wonder if we will see any of the Dragons in TWW as well, given they would have got their powers back.

    Also hope they show examples of class skins at the deep dive, interesting to see what each class can get.
    I think Irdikron will show up in Midnight. Presumably Elune will also feature in that expansion, which will make the Dragon Isles relevant by extension, meaning we could see Dragon Aspects and Vyranoth vs Irdikron there.

  15. #55515
    Quote Originally Posted by Supertoster View Post
    DF had new class/race, which alone is already more than anything we saw today.
    A new class/race is more than a new race and 39 sub classes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    I think Irdikron will show up in Midnight. Presumably Elune will also feature in that expansion, which will make the Dragon Isles relevant by extension, meaning we could see Dragon Aspects and Vyranoth vs Irdikron there.
    I expect Elune will be the one backing us up against the Titans in Last Titan.

  16. #55516
    Quote Originally Posted by Supertoster View Post
    DF had new class/race, which alone is already more than anything we saw today.
    Class, maybe, but one new race is not that more impressive than one new subrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    And this will translate into an advantage for raiding as well; imagine if there is some crafted item that is BiS for multiple specs (which happened with DF). If people have a head start on grinding for it, that's big.
    Competitive raiding is pretty niche compared to the general population. Those guys will obviously all take advantage of the opportunity so it's a wash. Blizzard won't be making much extra from just them. It's the wider playerbase that's really being taken advantage of.

  18. #55518
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Class, maybe, but one new race is not that more impressive than one new subrace.
    Is there any difference between races and allied races as far as the game is concerned these days? Heck, the earthen are getting a cool capital entirely designed around them instead of sharing one with much cooler looking dragonkin.

  19. #55519
    Hello, I'm 2 year old lurker that decided to make an account after today.
    I have 2 questions.
    1. They semi-confirmed that 10.2 will be the last major patch for DF. Did they clarify it or reported it as a mistake?
    2. My only fear is that they will do ESO/Destiny 2 content schedule where it's 1 year 1 patch of one expansion. Any news on that?

  20. #55520
    Quote Originally Posted by GhostFish View Post
    Competitive raiding is pretty niche compared to the general population. Those guys will obviously all take advantage of the opportunity so it's a wash. Blizzard won't be making much extra from just them. It's the wider playerbase that's really being taken advantage of.
    The way I see it, you are paying 20€ for several cosmetics and then 7€ for beta access and 3 early access days. I don't mind it. But I agree it is problematic at large and imo the early access should just be given to all preorders.

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