The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[shyguybman]

Overall I think specs are in a good place anyways tbh.

Hunter, Monk & Shaman would like a word with you. Hell there's even more than that lol

[Dismayxz]

plot twist: pvp is also competitive gameplay.

And to see the REAL f*ckfest it caused in competitive RAIDING- wait for next reset.

I'm well aware, if you'd have read the post, that before some changes and possibly after still, you're still considering bringing a certain amount of them in competitive Raiding. Once again I ask you what exactly is new or so ruining about that other than your dislike of the word "Support" apparently being part of what makes Augmentation, Augmentation, when the reality is that we had worse cases of mandatory stacking with the usual culprits more times than one can count at the same level of play. It certainly hasn't ruined play then and it won't now, get over whatever the fuck you think you know, because all you do at the moment is show me all the reasons of why you're not competitive and have no horse in the race.

[Delever]

Morning lads. I still haven't recovered from how many Ws were farmed yesterday.

[Melorandor]

I guess I am fine with Season of Discovery, but mannnnn, its gonna blow when WoTLK classic goes =/

[Selorian]

Hunter, Monk & Shaman would like a word with you. Hell there's even more than that lol

Most of these trees are fine. Resto and WW are just undertuned. Enhancement has been fun and good for a while now. Ele is fun but no raid buff means it has to be overtuned to get a reliable raid spot. MW is viable and is looking very good next patch. Brewmaster is also solid other than having button bloat.

Hunter is probably the one that most needs looking at, just because their spec trees are kind of bad.

Across these specs I think Hunter is next in line to get a rework like we've see throughout DF, Monk could be looked at a little (probably on level of DH), and Shaman just needs a raid buff.

[Chickat]

God Asmongold has devolved. He thinks Classic is the future and retail is dead. Nothing will ever impress that guy. They literally have given him everything he ever wanted systems and QoL wise and hes still unhappy.

[Jaggler]

God Asmongold has devolved. He thinks Classic is the future and retail is dead. Nothing will ever impress that guy. They literally have given him everything he ever wanted systems and QoL wise and hes still unhappy.

It's just like Bellular, once you cultivate an audience of doomers and classic andys, you can't really go back, no matter how you really feel, so you just continue to pander to them.

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

God Asmongold has devolved. He thinks Classic is the future and retail is dead. Nothing will ever impress that guy. They literally have given him everything he ever wanted systems and QoL wise and hes still unhappy.

He's getting old, and maybe he is depressed or something but not just saying anything.
He is probably just tired of WoW/gaming and maybe even his recluse life overall.

[Selorian]

God Asmongold has devolved. He thinks Classic is the future and retail is dead. Nothing will ever impress that guy. They literally have given him everything he ever wanted systems and QoL wise and hes still unhappy.

I'm convinced that Legion broke his brain. Whenever he rants about why modern raids are bad, his complaints just come off as if he's frozen in time in Legion. He'll complain about things that aren't a problem anymore

[Super Dickmann]

's pretty good.

The Avaloren leaks were fake but I still gotta keep my word about the Calia fanfiction. Dire.

[Melorandor]

It's just like Bellular, once you cultivate an audience of doomers and classic andys, you can't really go back, no matter how you really feel, so you just continue to pander to them.

This^ I mean, he probably doesn't hate modern WoW, he just doesn't have an interest. I don't think he has an interest in WoW generally, and most of his audience doesn't play the game anyways. Kinda happens when you're a one-trick pony for the longest time.

I mean, if Asmongold prefers classic, all the power to him. I think it better suits him anyways.

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

A plot twist that struck my mind when watching the reveal yesterday:
What if Xal is Alleria from the future(she ascended to some kind of void being) that time traveled back to the past(Black Empire days, when we found the blade or whenever)?
That would be some time travel fuckery.

[Auxis]

Yeah but he said a revamp was coming right?

Well, we have revamps coming in the 2 expansions after TWW theoretically if we are returning to Quel'thalas and Northrend for entire expansions.

[Chickat]

I posted this in another thread, but reposting here for visibility.

WoW 2 wont happen, but a full revamp probably will. Which will basically be wow2.


Imo this is how the expansion timeframe will look like.

Sept 24-11.0
March 26-12.0
September 27-13.0
June 29 14.0 revamp.

So imo we are 5.5 years away today from "WoW2".

Each expansion having 3 raid tiers and lasting about 18 months. DF content cadence staying. Probably no time for fated seasons though.

Or they could do like 14 month expansions with 2 tiers and 1 short fated tier. So 5.5 month tiers, and 3 month fated tier. Who knows.

I think 18 months is more reasonable.

Thoughts?

[Jaggler]

This^ I mean, he probably doesn't hate modern WoW, he just doesn't have an interest. I don't think he has an interest in WoW generally, and most of his audience doesn't play the game anyways. Kinda happens when you're a one-trick pony for the longest time.

I mean, if Asmongold prefers classic, all the power to him. I think it better suits him anyways.

yeah, i mean, if someone prefers classic, fine, you do you, that's why it's there.
I just feel like there's this part of the classic fandom, that wants retail to fail.

[Super Dickmann]

I think 18 months is more reasonable.

Thoughts?

Three DF sized expansions seems feasible.

[Selorian]

He's getting old, and maybe he is depressed or something but not just saying anything.
He is probably just tired of WoW/gaming and maybe even his recluse life overall.

Basically this. He no longer enjoys the game, but he can't or won't admit to himself that he just doesn't enjoy the game anymore. Instead he blames the game (game too hard, addons, femboy woke bad).

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I posted this in another thread, but reposting here for visibility.

WoW 2 wont happen, but a full revamp probably will. Which will basically be wow2.


Imo this is how the expansion timeframe will look like.

Sept 24-11.0
March 26-12.0
September 27-13.0
June 29 14.0 revamp.

So imo we are 5.5 years away today from "WoW2".

Each expansion having 3 raid tiers and lasting about 18 months. DF content cadence staying. Probably no time for fated seasons though.

Or they could do like 14 month expansions with 2 tiers and 1 short fated tier. So 5.5 month tiers, and 3 month fated tier. Who knows.

I think 18 months is more reasonable.

Thoughts?

It sounds like Midnight and Last Titan are both going to have partial world revamps, considering their locations. We're going back to areas we've already been, so it makes sense for them to be updated.

That said I agree ~18 months seems likely. Yearly expansions with just 2 raid tiers is too few for me, and I think it's unlikely blizzard goes that way. Especially since we know the 11.0 raid is 8 bosses again; we'd probably need to go back to larger raids with like 12-13 bosses to begin to justify this and even then it's questionable.

The DF patch cadence and season setup has been very good. 3 seasons that last about 5-6 months each, first 2 seasons have 4/4 new/old dungeons, then megadungeon and 6 new dungeons in the last season.

[Chickat]

Well, we have revamps coming in the 2 expansions after TWW theoretically if we are returning to Quel'thalas and Northrend for entire expansions.

I wonder if Quel'thalas will be just the zones of that kingdom, or if it will include all of EK, or maybe include Lordaeron too? Was Lordaeron Originally Elf land at any point? If so I could see the top half of EK being revamped. Or it may just be Quel with a few new zones added.

[Akta]

Will be interesting to see how the return to northrend will play out. Probably it will be a revamp of old zones but not for the whole northrend continent. There will be plots scattered in Azeroth each on a different zone that will be revamped.

[Merryck]

God Asmongold has devolved. He thinks Classic is the future and retail is dead. Nothing will ever impress that guy. They literally have given him everything he ever wanted systems and QoL wise and hes still unhappy.

He can't process change. Take a glance at his life and you can immediately identify that - the fact that he lives in the same house, wears the same clothes, drives the same car, eats the same food, and had a breakdown when his add-ons broke. He styles himself as a neo-monk, but really the dude's just on the spectrum.