The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Worldshaper]

Unfortunately, I think the Deep Dive will spend about 15-20 minutes recapping yesterday, or going into fairly generic information. That leaves at most about 30 minutes for delving into new info.

Hopefully they clarify Warbands, Delves, and give us more (all?) Hero Talents. I'd like to begin planning my Warband as soon as possible, down to the smallest detail.

But I think we'll come out of it still feeling like we needed more information. That just seems to be their style these days. Rather than detail everything like they did in the past, they'll keep a lot of stuff close to their chests so as to avoid disappointment if plans change before launch. The benefit of this, of course, is that we'll keep recieving a steady stream of exciting snippets of information throughout the first half of 2024.

Finally, I really hope they give us the 2024 roadmap for Dragonflight. Anything else seems borderline negligent at this point. We need to know what's coming soonish. New class/race combos and so on.

[Ereb]

Fated raids inc baby!

[blaatschaap]

By the way, how do you guys feel about them completely dropping the original logo format in favour of a runic circle? I know they want to distinguish these three expacs from the previous ones to underline they are part of a saga, but to me they look less fun than the logos of old.

I'm thinking they're doing it like this so they can have the planet prominently in the art nstead of just tiny at the top where the OF was. That way they can play with how they portrait it in the art. Midnight shows it engulfed in void shadows. Last titan showed it encased with some kind of titan looking part of a shackle. Of course war within shows it straining with cracks

[damonskye]

I'd like to begin planning my Warband as soon as possible, down to the smallest detail.

From Morgan Day's interview yesterday evening, warbands don't have any separate UI or anything... it appears that they're simply an integration of characters/alts with some shared things like a bank, War Within reputations, etc. Not sure there is much to actually plan with them, but I guess we'll find out.

[Vakir]

God Asmongold has devolved. He thinks Classic is the future and retail is dead. Nothing will ever impress that guy. They literally have given him everything he ever wanted systems and QoL wise and hes still unhappy.

Outrage merchant was one of the best descriptors anyone could've ever given him.

[Worldshaper]

From Morgan Day's interview yesterday evening, warbands don't have any separate UI or anything... it appears that they're simply an integration of characters/alts with some shared things like a bank, War Within reputations, etc. Not sure there is much to actually plan with them, but I guess we'll find out.

Yeah I took it that way as well. But then others pointed out that the mock-up (or whatever it is) they showed us actually has a little button to list other characters? We'll see, I guess.

For me personally, having a UI screen is pretty major because I have a ton of alts and difficulties staying focused on just a few. Being able to just show 4-5 favourite characters and more or less forget the rest would be great.

[Zers Editor]

Well, it could be that we defeat the Void in Midnight, only to learn that Light on it's own is overwhelming in some form of storyline in the Last Titan. Metzen did say conspiracy. The Titans/Order being subservient or compromised by the Light?

That'd be an awesome twist, ngl

[Makabreska]

Unfortunately, I think the Deep Dive will spend about 15-20 minutes recapping yesterday, or going into fairly generic information. That leaves at most about 30 minutes for delving into new info.

And let's not forget this is general WoW Deep Dive, so expect Classic as well.

[Stonecloak]

Outrage merchant was one of the best descriptors anyone could've ever given him.

That is pretty good lol. I find that most influencers will just gaslight and manipulate their audience to believe their word is one of divine nature. I'm sure there's good ones out there, but it is a lot of farming for outrage, manipulating the audience.

[blaatschaap]

And let's not forget this is general WoW Deep Dive, so expect Classic as well.

There isn't much to deep dive for cataclysm classic, since it is just cataclysm again, and they said they aren't gonna spoil season of discovery since the point is the discovery. I expect almost fully retail related content

[milkmustache]

That'd be an awesome twist, ngl

There are a lot of light adjacent tendencies and themes by the Titans. Tyr and Aman'thul specifically. My general belief is that whatever comes after 13.0, it'll be the mortals forging their own path in a way almost untouched by the cosmic realm for a bit. Maybe a full rejection of most cosmic entities in the greater sense (aside from classes)

[Jodmos]

There isn't much to deep dive for cataclysm classic, since it is just cataclysm again, and they said they aren't gonna spoil season of discovery since the point is the discovery. I expect almost fully retail related content

The earlier panels were Wow: and Wow Classic:, this starts WoW: so I would assume it's just retail but who really knows (other than Blizzard)

[huth]

That would be cool if the impetus for friendly Nerubians is that they help us fight the Qiraji.

Bug War, and lets Uldaz(?)/the Core zone have new enemies.

Except we're not going anywhere near Silithus. TWW is in a completely new area much further south.

[bruxx]

Doesn't Midnight seem a little out of place compared to TWW and TLT?

I get why it's happening (revamp and Quel'thalas is huge) but it seems kinda filler-y without context.

An incursion from the void could be as fillery as the legion expansion.

[Ereb]

And let's not forget this is general WoW Deep Dive, so expect Classic as well.

I forgot there even was another panel today after they broke my neck from whiplash after yesterday's announcements in abundance!

[KurtMash]

Yeah I took it that way as well. But then others pointed out that the mock-up (or whatever it is) they showed us actually has a little button to list other characters? We'll see, I guess.

For me personally, having a UI screen is pretty major because I have a ton of alts and difficulties staying focused on just a few. Being able to just show 4-5 favourite characters and more or less forget the rest would be great.

I would guess the login screen with your warband will be customizable with scrolls obtained in-game, similar to Drake customization in Dragonflight. This way, you can choose different backdrops, poses, weather, and additional doodahs.

[Worldshaper]

And let's not forget this is general WoW Deep Dive, so expect Classic as well.

Oh not. It'll be a Shallow Dive.

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I would guess the login screen with your warband will be customizable with scrolls obtained in-game, similar to Drake customization in Dragonflight. This way, you can choose different backdrops, poses, weather, and additional doodahs.

That would be a dream come true.

[Cosmic Janitor]

And let's not forget this is general WoW Deep Dive, so expect Classic as well.

Oh fuck, you're right. 45 mins is not alot for a "deep" dive when you have to share it between 2 games, especially with classic and it's umpteenth game variants.

[blaatschaap]

I would guess the login screen with your warband will be customizable with scrolls obtained in-game, similar to Drake customization in Dragonflight. This way, you can choose different backdrops, poses, weather, and additional doodahs.

They should hire that narcissus addon guy to design that shit

[ryanmahaffe]

It's a shame I used to be such a big fan of Asmons, but not he straight up knows nothing about the game and is so out of things to complain about that he just makes shit up, anything to paint the current game as bad as that is what drives engagement, I see this on his sub all the time, people talking about how trash ruins raids, complicated systems *cant name any in DF* and "too much feelings" are why modern WoW sucks

Not even trying anymore.