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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    No Sunwalker hero spec for paladins?

    Rider of the Apocalypse, is he constantly mounted like one of the Four Horsmen?

    Scalecommande for Evoker, fights in melee with a polearm like Emberthal?
    What are you talking about? These are just names for talent trees.
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    ohhh... shit CROSS-REALM GUILDS!!!
    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    No Sunwalker hero spec for paladins?

    Rider of the Apocalypse, is he constantly mounted like one of the Four Horsmen?

    Scalecommande for Evoker, fights in melee with a polearm like Emberthal?
    I assume Herald of the Sun IS sunwalker? What else would it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    New Players don't see Azeroth at all.

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    There is a Herald of the Sun paladin spec. Probably for Sunwalkers.
    Could also be based on the new Arathi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    No Tinker/Artificer hero spec for anyone.
    Probably because they know it's a good class fit and doesn't work shoehorned into Hunter. Them not using it here is great news.

    Really good fit for a 13.0 class honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    I thought Kul Tiras/Zandalar/Dragon Isles were on Azeroth?
    New Players go from Exiles Reach to Dragonflight. They dont see anything else until theyve done DF at least once.

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    Overall, this as a good Deep Dive. Lots of pressing questions have been answered, and the whole expansion just feels more fleshed out now.

    What feels bad are the lacklustre Hero Talents, the omission of a Dragonflight 2024 Roadmap, as well as zero mention of new character customisation options.

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    Solid Deep Dive.

    I didn't hear anything I hated, so that's good.

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    It took them 6 years to add one battleground?

    No open world PvP zone like Ashran?

    Cross realm guilds is nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    For me, Dragonriding at level 10 is counterproductive to the goal of immersing new players in WoW. They'll barely get to see Azeroth, just hop between objectives. Should be a max level thing.
    They cant do that if Dragon Isles is the level up experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotHockets View Post
    New Players go from Exiles Reach to Dragonflight. They dont see anything else until theyve done DF at least once.
    And like I said, the Dragon Isles are on Azeroth. So they do see Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zankai27 View Post
    Probably because they know it's a good class fit and doesn't work shoehorned into Hunter. Them not using it here is great news.

    Really good fit for a 13.0 class honestly.
    Why would they add something they explicitly added to Engineering in DF to hero talent trees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    They cant do that if Dragon Isles is the level up experience.
    Oh okay, now I see what you guys mean. Silly me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Overall, this as a good Deep Dive. Lots of pressing questions have been answered, and the whole expansion just feels more fleshed out now.

    What feels bad are the lacklustre Hero Talents, the omission of a Dragonflight 2024 Roadmap, as well as zero mention of new character customisation options.
    I really expected a Road Map. I was expecting to be disappointed by Hero Talents because the implementation was very rigid so most archetypes would just not make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I assume Herald of the Sun IS sunwalker? What else would it be?
    Blood Elf spec

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    Maybe Hellcaller is Necromancer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    For me, Dragonriding at level 10 is counterproductive to the goal of immersing new players in WoW. They'll barely get to see Azeroth, just hop between objectives. Should be a max level thing.
    But then they can't make DF the levelling expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Every race in the game can be priests and Elune is relevant to 1.5 of them.
    Unlike Dark Rangers, Sunwalkers, Mountain Kings and Deathstalkers, which are totally not relevant for only like 1-2 races each?


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    I am a bit sad to not see the visual updates to spells they kinda teased with Hero Talents, it seems thats actually not the case, or only with the key spells targeted by the hero tree, but other then that, sounds great as hell.

  20. #56460
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    I was kinda hoping for an Elune theme for Priest and none of those they showed (in name only) sounds like that.
    For better or worse, all that Elune stuff has gone to Druids for a long time now (and they do have an Elune Hero Spec). Despite the name, WC3's Priestesses of the Moon are Hunters mixed with Balance Druids, while Priests are solidly Light and Void.

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