The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

Shadowlands was made to close a book in Warcraft, which it did. Domination is gone, the Lich King doesn't exist anymore, we saw a workshop of the creators of the Cosmology, Azeroths true purpose seemingly expanded a bit, etc. Dragonflight was more-so the bonus chapter, the intermission expansion if you will.

The Worldsoul Saga basically concludes stuff built up from the early Cosmic stuff, while also building up stories for the next 20 years in the process. Think of it as the opening of a new book, part 2 if you will.

Then I say if Shadowlands could do that in one expansion, why can't TWW?

An expansion isn't a brief period of time.

[Treegdar]

I think BfA's launch offering is one of the more potent showcases of how poorly designed content fares little better than no content in the eyes of the community, but the WoD debacle has tilted the quantity vs. quality debate over content firmly in the side of quantity for a long time now. The game was being designed around avoiding WoD again long after its release, even if that eventually lead to total burnout with systems.

DF has prioritized content delivery above all else, and I believe it's time for us to shift to the quality side of content. They've focused on reducing friction with the game and that's continuing into TWW, now it's on them to show they can deliver engaging new content and systems rather than just demonstrating they can pump out loads of quests as they have been with DF. If Delves are nailed correctly on release, I think a strong new endgame pillar will be a huge benefit to keeping the game fresh.

Agreed on all fronts. BFA promised so much with warfronts and Islands, but both were mostly hated or just received with a "meh" at best. Warfronts tho I gotta say they never sounded even the slightest bit interesting to me. One of the things they said when trying to hype the feature was, "its like an RTS but instead of controlling all the units your character is one of the units. Going from gathering resources to a soldier on the battlefield." Idk about anyone else, but being a WC3 peon sounded boring and tedious AF at the time and it turned out to be that way. I'm actually baffled Blizz got passed the idea stage on warfronts cause literally nothing about them was actually fun. It was run around for 10 minutes killing some enemies and chopping some trees. Then waiting 5 minutes for the NPC siege weapons to break down the enemy fortress.

[Nymrohd]

3 more updates for DF, I suppose 10.2.5 / 10.2.7 / 10.2.9 ?

5 and 7 as before and 9 for Fated season.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I mean, not really. My original point was always that something is fishy about there being a prison just like Iridikron's on the logo of The Last Titan. It was you who started something really convoluted and lost track of the discussion.

Lol yea really, your original point was that it was a Titan prison which was wrong and then a lot of nonsense trying to say it was still something the titans told them to do or they got from the titans in some way which is untrue.

“There’s a Titan prison on the logo!”
No it’s a dragon prison with nothing to do with the titans.

“But it has Titan prison runes”
The runes have nothing to do with prisons they are just Titan scripts

“But the dragons are just like sylvanas and co who didn't need orders!”
All of them had orders the dragons didn’t.

“We don’t know that the dragons didn’t have orders”
We do.

“But the dragons use order magic!”
And finally you got something right.

[Cheezits]

10.2.5 Reality Amirdrassil minizone given quests and content

10.2.7 heritage quests, race class unlocks, customizations, finale story quests

10.2.9 fated

My guesses.

[Reive]

this q&a reinforces the belief that tww is midnight's waiting room lol

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I've never seen someone be so wrong and so convinced he's right at the same time.

have you tried looking in a mirror?

The Dragon Aspects have been shown to do the same, going as far as using Titan technology and runes on their prison cells

they haven’t, the dragons come up with the idea, theory craft how to make it, and put said theory crafting into action to make it, all covered by the new book.

They don’t use any Titan tech they do it all them selfs from scratch. At best we know they put some words on it but not what they say or if they have any importance to the titans.

The Last Titan has one of those prisons on it, and we know the expansion is going to drop a few bombs about the Titans and the worldsoul.

which is likely because the main villain will be the rock dragon held in one.

Meanwhile, you: "Nah mate, the Dragon Aspects barely even know the Titans. "

this funnily enough is also mentioned in the new novels, the aspects in fact did barely know the Titans and barely knew the Keepers beyond Tyr which is why when Tyr dies all contact with the Keepers cease and they are left a drift wondering how to deal with things.

[Psilent]

Reading that they said 1 raid per expansion? Or is that just people mis-hearing the interview? I can't listen to it now, but will later.

[Berkilak]

10.2.5 Reality Amirdrassil minizone given quests and content

10.2.7 heritage quests, race class unlocks, customizations, finale story quests

10.2.9 fated

My guesses.

Those are hardly things that would be hard to guess, though. They overtly said that we won’t see what they have coming in that MrGM interview.

[Marlamin]

Reading that they said 1 raid per expansion? Or is that just people mis-hearing the interview? I can't listen to it now, but will later.

I think that was specifically about what an expansion launches with.

[Berkilak]

Reading that they said 1 raid per expansion? Or is that just people mis-hearing the interview? I can't listen to it now, but will later.

They’ll all start with one raid.

[Ersula]

this funnily enough is also mentioned in the new novels, the aspects in fact did barely know the Titans and barely knew the Keepers beyond Tyr which is why when Tyr dies all contact with the Keepers cease and they are left a drift wondering how to deal with things.

This explains why Ysera described the Dream as being "created by the Titans" if its actually a dimension that encompasses the entire universe where life originates before it passes into the Material plane.

[Nymrohd]

Ooh, did Morgan Day just casually pre-announce a new feature called Azerothian Archives?

Well not casually, it was probably planned

[Xilurm]

Stat Squish confirmed for Midnight.

Also confirmed we're not going to the past in Midnight and TLT. I guess they added that question because a lot of people were still confused about it.

[Nymrohd]

Stat Squish confirmed for Midnight.

Also confirmed we're not going to the past in Midnight and TLT. I guess they added that question because a lot of people were still confused about it.

We all call it the old world so often but for people who don't dwell on forums I guess it is not a common term?

[Xilurm]

Ion just said they want to keep the iconic old world vibrant and relevant. We'll probably get more revamps beyond TLT.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

This explains why Ysera described the Dream as being "created by the Titans" if its actually a dimension that encompasses the entire universe where life originates before it passes into the Material plane.

It is actually touched on briefly that Yesra starts to figure out the dream soon after they get there powers and doesn’t know much of any thing about it.

So it’s not unlikely she was told next to nothing about it beyond “titans did it”.

[Xilurm]

Ooh, did Morgan Day just casually pre-announce a new feature called Azerothian Archives?

Is that what I think it is? (still watching)

[Darkarath]

Ooh, did Morgan Day just casually pre-announce a new feature called Azerothian Archives?

Excited for this. For how they talked about it is probably coming in 10.2.5. I hope that it is a step into a Journal feature. Guessing that it is a tab in which we collect Lore books around the world. Hopefully a bestiary too.

Sounds fun. Just give me an excuse to explore old content.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

What did he say so I don't get excited that we get a Lore Tab.