The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dracullus]

Double edged sword.

Announce three expansions to build hype around the future of your franchise and assure players that there is a plan.

Doomers on a Curse-Goblin Internet Forum will claim your game is going to be over afterwards or die before it ends.

Truly hilarious.

After Blizzcon I think there will be WoW2 around 2030 and one thing I'm sure about is that I'm not doomer.

First, it will be time to switch 25+ year old engine. You think they are gonna remake 1500 mounts, 3000 pets and bazylion transmog pieces?

Second, WoW2 is opportunity to shake a lot of ground stuff. There are simply things you can't do in expansion, for example you can't move race to different faction, remove archaic systems like TBC flying, etc.

Third, I think we all want to end WoW1 on high note, not inventing new threats every expansion. I really hope 13.2 boss will be finally Sargeras himself, you can't go more iconic than that (and thankfully this card wasn't used in Legion).

And most important - they can do interesting stuff in Midnight and go ALL IN in Last Titan from character progression POV. It's like Legion, but you don't have BfA hangover after this. I'm thinking about absolutely crazy stuff, something like full legendary gear to even start progressing final boss.

[pacotaco]

So are the Earthen an allied race instead of a regular race because they reuse the dwarf model and Blizz knows they would be shit on for calling that a new race? Or because they plan to add a few different ones through the expac and allied race is code for "not a full race but not the only one you'll get"?

Allied race is how the call the races you unlock through playing and not just by buying the expansion.

[Dracullus]

Btw, where are people who claimed there will be huge uproar about no 10.3? xD

[blaatschaap]

Maybe it's a hint? /jk

Trolls for the alliance!

[Rathwell]

Trolls for the alliance!

The Amani trolls, seeing the Horde allying with the Blood Elves, decide to join the Alliance for a chance to battle their mortal enemies.

Meanwhile the Vrykul decide to join the Horde after seeing how weak and puny their human descendants are.


Welcome to the worst timeline.

[Supertoster]

WoW2 makes no sense. They can upgrade the engine without rebooting. Who actually wants a WoW 2?

I want it. I want an MMORPG in the beloved universe, but with less archaic gameplay.
After so many years of playing WoW, I hate tab-target combat. I want more space for skill expression, I want PvP to matter, I want PvE be based on skillful execution rather than on boring rotations.

[vintage79]

Trolls for the alliance!

The Amani trolls, seeing the Horde allying with the Blood Elves, decide to join the Alliance for a chance to battle their mortal enemies.

Meanwhile the Vrykul decide to join the Horde after seeing how weak and puny their human descendants are.


Welcome to the worst timeline.

[Paula Deen]

Btw, where are people who claimed there will be huge uproar about no 10.3? xD

Playing classic or getting ready for 10.2 which hasn't even gone live yet lmao.

[huth]

For inexplicable reasons it has lowrider suspensions

I think it needs a giant old timey ship steering wheel and Odyn should wear sunglasses and smoke a pipe. Maybe wear a captain's hat, too.

[Dhomeli]

cata - wow is done
mop - nutz wow is done
wod - this is it - wow is gone
legion - they just bring ilidan kekw
bfa - wow is dead
sl - wow is dead
df - wow is disney

-snip-

Pretty much. I know several people that viewed Wrath as the end of WoW. Like legitimately were like “Arthas is dead, they should’ve just stopped there.” And here we are 7 expansions later. The way Metzen talked about setting up the next 20 years in these next 3 expansions tells me we’ll not only have an epic saga, but we’ll see the start of many new story threads they will be able to pick up following The Last Titan.

[blaatschaap]

Pretty much. I know several people that viewed Wrath as the end of WoW. Like legitimately were like “Arthas is dead, they should’ve just stopped there.” And here we are 7 expansions later. The way Metzen talked about setting up the next 20 years in these next 3 expansions tells me we’ll not only have an epic saga, but we’ll see the start of many new story threads they will be able to pick up following The Last Titan.

Certainly hope so. No other fantasy world speaks to me like the world of warcraft does. I believe Metzen when he says they're not messing around

[AOL Instant Messenger]

One thing I'm interested in are the Arathi. They seem markedly more advanced than the other human kingdoms, and I wonder if they're sort of going down the same path the draenei did under the influence of the naaru. I hope they wind up producing an allied race or something of the sort, since they're frankly the most interesting new addition to the lore for me alongside the implications of the new nerubian kingdom.

I am also inclined to wonder precisely why there are nerubians here: did they flee the Scourge? Were they a colony from before that time? Was the mutative influence of Yogg-Saron on a different Aqir colony projected from the same fissure that replicated the behavioral changes in the earthen, another product of Yogg-Saron?

[Lady Atia]

One thing I'm interested in are the Arathi. They seem markedly more advanced than the other human kingdoms, and I wonder if they're sort of going down the same path the draenei did under the influence of the naaru. I hope they wind up producing an allied race or something of the sort, since they're frankly the most interesting new addition to the lore here.

It seems like they already showed us the concept art for the arathi outworld sets during the presentation - so you will prolly be able to play them using your normal human chars with that transmog. No need to make them a seperate allied race lol.

[Samin]

Pretty much. I know several people that viewed Wrath as the end of WoW. Like legitimately were like “Arthas is dead, they should’ve just stopped there.” And here we are 7 expansions later. The way Metzen talked about setting up the next 20 years in these next 3 expansions tells me we’ll not only have an epic saga, but we’ll see the start of many new story threads they will be able to pick up following The Last Titan.

Not to mention Wrath ruined the game because it made the game too casual. I still remember being a "Wrath baby"

[AOL Instant Messenger]

It seems like they already showed us the concept art for the arathi outworld sets during the presentation - so you will prolly be able to play them using your normal human chars with that transmog. No need to make them a seperate allied race lol.

Definitely interested in the prospects either way. They remind me a bit in theory of the Golden Order from Elden Ring: a technologically-advanced religious civilization influenced by a looming golden object, presumably also of alien origin.

[Jaggler]

Not to mention Wrath ruined the game because it made the game too casual. I still remember being a "Wrath baby"

Yeah, Wrath babies were everywhere.
It's also the expansion where people started using gearscore.

[Houle]

Again, stop the fearmongering because THIS WONT HAPPEN FOR ANOTHER 20 years atleast. Holy Moly.

(And btw, we all saw how great it went for the Diablo franchise to basically kill of D3 and go with Diablo Immortal and D4 , and that wasn't even a MMO with a huge collection)

If you actually think releasing D:I (as much as a pos that "game" is) and D4 was worse for Blizzard than another D3 xpac or whatever, then idk what to tell you dude. Cause thats just factually wrong.

Same thing about WoW...you ACTUALLY believe this game will go another 20 years, same way it did so far? Cause...again, no. The franchise will definitely keep going, and the game as well probably for another decade. But it will either be updated eventually so that its basically WoW 2.0, or it will slowly dribble out, no matter what they do. Which would mean another fresh Warcraft game would take the big spotlight.

[Krakerz]

My guess/hope for what they'll do:

In Midnight they recreate Quel'Thalas at a 1.5x or 2x scale, while adding in an extra zone or two.

Zone 1: Silvermoon+Sunstrider isle+Quel'danas+new area Northeast of Silvermoon
Zone 2: Eversong Woods+Ghostlands
Zone 3: Amani zone
Zone 4: Something

It's gonna in its own instance, and the south will be inaccessible, blocked by fog or an invisible wall. It's gonna be lvl 80-90 content, but you'll still be able to visit the old OG zones by teleporting there (the same way you can visit both old and new Dalaran)


Then, in 14.0, they do a revamped Lordaeron, remaking the zones at a larger scale to match. Alterac Valley is added into the main world at its current size and the world around is rebuilt to match its scale. This new revamped Lordaeron will be connected to the revamped Quel'Thalas and you'll be able to fly between them at will.


Continue until you have the entire old world remade at a bigger scale that better matches the lore size,

[huth]

After Blizzcon I think there will be WoW2 around 2030 and one thing I'm sure about is that I'm not doomer.

First, it will be time to switch 25+ year old engine. You think they are gonna remake 1500 mounts, 3000 pets and bazylion transmog pieces?

WoW has a 25 year old engine in the same way you're still using your great-great-great-grandfather's axe. And if they don't, then they might as well not bother.

The whole "WoW2" thing is bullshit. There's no real point to making a sequel to an MMO except pulling money out of pockets.

[MCMLXXXII]

If you think WoW is still using the exact same engine as 20nyears ago, you're probably viewing this website on your Nokia.