The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hitei]

Ya just look at all those bright blue paladin and Druid spells like convoke and toll it all fits right in.

/S.

Sorry, did you want me to pretend 60% of balance's kit isn't bright blue? We can even pretend BoP, Devo, judgement of wisdom and hammer of wrath don't exist.

Could you pick two worse fucking examples?

[Nightshade711]

Now make the Shadow Priest Power Word: Shield purple.

This & give us an option to remove the sparkles from Levitate or make it shadow-y

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Sorry, did you want me to pretend 60% of balance's kit isn't bright blue? We can even pretend BoP, Devo, judgement of wisdom and hammer of wrath don't exist.

Could you pick two worse fucking examples?

Ya none of those pally spells match toll.

Divine toll.
https://static.icy-veins.com/images/...palakyrian.jpg
Hammer of wrath
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...r-of-wrath.jpg
Bop
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...protection.jpg
Devo
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...otion-aura.jpg

Same with moonkins with mostly purple and silver and nothing like convoke.

[Alanar]

This & give us an option to remove the sparkles from Levitate or make it shadow-y

I like that idea a lot.

Also I want glyph of ravena back and last longer.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Outside of the Shadowlands however, Divine Toll SHOULD be more connected to the Light and other Paladin roots.

Yes exactly the crappy shadowlands themes should be thrown away and it should be brought in line with the rest of the class.

The gameplay is fine, the themes are the problem.

[Xilurm]

What if the 2nd floor of the portal room we saw on previous PTR also adds portals to Gilneas and Amirdrassil?

[Nymrohd]

What if the 2nd floor of the portal room we saw on previous PTR also adds portals to Gilneas and Amirdrassil?

Would certainly be nice

[Xilurm]

Would certainly be nice

It's a place for a lot of portals. 9 I think? That's 18 years of expansions. They can use those spots for other things until then.

[Hitei]

Ya none of those pally spells match toll.

They are all extremely close. Light blue has never not been part of Paladin's kit.

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Just like blue has never not been druids. (lol "mostly purple", Incarnation is literally the exact same color)

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You are reaching painfully hard. Let's be honest, you don't actually give even the slightest shit about the consistency of class spell effects here. You saw the word "shadowlands", got triggered, and saw an opportunity to bitch and moan about the expansion.

It wasn't even veiled, you just didn't have any actual point or argument beyond the two-year-old-throwing-a-tantrum logic of "I don't like Shadowlands so anything associated with it is bad" which is why you had no actual response to me pointing out that three of the four covenant aesthetics are very standard aesthetics, tried to goal post shift into "b-but druids and paladins don't even have bright blue spell effects" (because you care so little about class spell effects you literally didn't remember this was objectively wrong) and then had to move the goal posts even farther to "w-well they're not the exact same bright blue effects", which is also objectively wrong because Night Fae anima is just 1:1 astral form/old starsurge/incarnation, and divine toll is 1:1 to the paladin blessings and mana seal.

[Nymrohd]

You are reaching painfully hard. Let's be honest, you don't actually give even the slightest shit about the consistency of class spell effects here. You saw the word "shadowlands", got triggered, and saw an opportunity to bitch and moan about the expansion.

Blizzard agrees that they are thematically inconsistent and they are changing them. That is what matters.

[Hitei]

Blizzard agrees that they are thematically inconsistent and they are changing them. That is what matters.

Blizzard (and I) think that some of them are thematically inconsistent. But again, that's not even what he's complaining about, he's upset that anything to do with Shadowlands exists, hence why he outright said that in the first post.

[Well Done Steak]

Regarding expanded shaman, paladin and druids.

Just realized that we got monks for all in 10.0.7, which means there's still hope post 2.5!!!

[Super Dickmann]

Blizzard agrees that they are thematically inconsistent and they are changing them. That is what matters.

The new Convoke is worse and more ill-fitting than Ardenweald effects which are already druidic. It should stay the default. The shadow effect is more fitting, but also works. Others should be changed and have the covenant effects available as glyphs.

[Hitei]

Am I dreaming, or are they preparing the dynamic ground mounts? And hardly anyone reacts to this? WTF!!!

Because there's a significant probability it's just a joke name, not an actual prototype for a new riding system.

[Viridiel]

I'm not really sure what the use case for a dynamic ground mount in the next three expansions could be. Maybe Midnight, although I would find that disappointing because it means wide open spaces rather than the dense forests of Eversong. I suppose there's every chance it'll be added in a major patch alongside an appropriate new zone rather than as an expansion feature.

[Well Done Steak]

The new Convoke is worse and more ill-fitting than Ardenweald effects which are already druidic. It should stay the default. The shadow effect is more fitting, but also works. Others should be changed and have the covenant effects available as glyphs.

Disagree.

The glowy fairy blue effects are clearly ardenwield themed, not druidic. So the new effects match much better.

Hell even abomination lomb is clearly maldraxxus themed and could also use a change..

All these covenant themes could be made Into glyphs for those who enjoy them

[Super Dickmann]

Disagree.

The glowy fairy blue effects are clearly ardenwield themed, not druidic. So the new effects match much better.

Hell even abomination lomb is clearly maldraxxus themed and could also use a change..

All these covenant themes could be made Into glyphs for those who enjoy them

Ardenweald is druidic, the new effect is flashy, but visually confused, with the purple accents and flashy bits easily passing for an arcane spell. It meshes with the class (Divine Toll does too) in a way others like the monk stomp and every Revendreth effect don't gel.

[Kiivar86]

They're testing something Dynamic mount related, at the least. Note that also next to the ground one is another flight one:

Prototype Dynamic BC Flight Mount [DNT] (New) - Unknown Type. Spell #423789. "You built this yourself, you should be proud, even though it's smoky, sparky, and loud." Source: Quest: Drive It Away Today Zone: Mechagon

The BC is interesting. My mind went to Burning Crusade but BC could also mean Backwards Compatible (and the more likely one, I think). This is a flight one, in any event, alongside the ground.

So yeah, they seem to be testing something, but I wouldn't get too excited yet if only because nothing may come of it.

Anyway, with the updated graphics stuff, I do like most of what I've seen though I will miss some of it, too. I actually really like the faeline stomp appearance, but I could see it being turned into a more misty jade and fit in.

edit: well, seems we know who's currently occupying Gilneas... (found on Reddit but its from MrGM's twitter)

[Nymrohd]

Yeah I cannot say Divine Toll or Convoke were the ones I found problematic.

But the Hunt and Elysian Decree? Shifting Power? Bonedust Brew and Faeline Stomp? Blessing of the Seasons? Primordial Wave? All those just don't work.

[Xilurm]

Anyone got a screenshot of those new druid visuals? I keep seeing that one Ardenweald ability that spreads like a tree on the ground and I always thought it didn't fit. Not sure if its druidic though, I don't play druid.