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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    weak? that thing fucking dodged a titan, blew up doors and armies of demons in argus and at antorus. that thing could fry those spiders with the very thing that is 100% against them.
    Ah yes, "it dodged a thing" and "it blew up a door".

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    Going back to the whole relic thing, I think myself and others thought Iridikron was going to use it to power himself up but seemingly that get gave it away to Xal, I am really curious how he intends on 1v6'ing the Titans now. Unless he's just ended to be joke they flick out of existence the moment the come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Going back to the whole relic thing, I think myself and others thought Iridikron was going to use it to power himself up but seemingly that get gave it away to Xal, I am really curious how he intends on 1v6'ing the Titans now. Unless he's just ended to be joke they flick out of existence the moment the come back.
    That will be a good storyline hopefully they have 2-2.5 expansions to develop further has to be something besides teaming up with void to help him do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Not sure where you see all that talk. Nothing in this thread, one Reddit post, barely any mentions on YouTube channels I follow.

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    Void wanting to consume entire Azeroth is enough of a reason.
    Forums and Reddit unfortunately. Both are cesspools though so not exactly a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotHockets View Post
    It's gonna be a Quel'thalas the size of modern zones you just have the option to go between the two if you want.
    So I wonder how seamless is it going to be when you go from that new "bigger" zone to the Eastern Plaguelands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheraz View Post
    nope, blood elf
    check hair style and arm rings
    Unless Void elves are getting more Blood elf options, you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    So I wonder how seamless is it going to be when you go from that new "bigger" zone to the Eastern Plaguelands.
    We don't even know how far this remake will go. 4 big zones sounds like a big stretch for just Quel'Thanas. Maybe it will be together with Tirisfal/Plaguelands or even whole northern EK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    We don't even know how far this remake will go. 4 big zones sounds like a big stretch for just Quel'Thanas. Maybe it will be together with Tirisfal/Plaguelands or even whole northern EK.
    I think its definitely very possible

    Eversong + Ghostlands + QD = Merged into a new megazone
    Zul'Aman - Forest troll home with Shrine of Ula'tek as the first raid
    Northeron - Mixed elf and human themes. Possibly revamped Stratholme

    4th zone could be something in the Void or even the build out the land east of EPL like they originally wanted to do in Cataclysm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    I think its definitely very possible

    Eversong + Ghostlands + QD = Merged into a new megazone
    Zul'Aman - Forest troll home with Shrine of Ula'tek as the first raid
    Northeron - Mixed elf and human themes. Possibly revamped Stratholme

    4th zone could be something in the Void or even the build out the land east of EPL like they originally wanted to do in Cataclysm.
    I'm hoping for Northeron but I'm not going to bet on it. It would make more sense than Tirisfal though (and it would be odd for Forsaken not to have an area to help their old friends out)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Void wanting to consume entire Azeroth is enough of a reason.
    Sure, that covers their involvement in the main plot, but how do they intend to "unite the elven tribes" when the Nelves don't exactly sympathize with the Belves.

    What prevents them from pissing off when all is over and go back to isolating from one another.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Sure, that covers their involvement in the main plot, but how do they intend to "unite the elven tribes" when the Nelves don't exactly sympathize with the Belves.

    What prevents them from pissing off when all is over and go back to isolating from one another.
    They will unite them the same way Horde and Alliance entered a peace period in DF. They will realise that enough of disagreements and fighting, and common enemy really helps with that. Saving their unified ancestral home will make them reflect.
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    Things going "Wildly out of control" leading into the Last Titan implies that something goes wrong, justifying (or at least "justifying") the titans deciding to intervene.
    The predictable options would be ;

    a) We fail, the corrupted (yet again) sunwell explodes/successfully summons a Void Lord/ other void shenanigan. We did NOT put an end to the void forever.

    b) With the void successfully dealt with, the light feels comfy to make its move, similar to what we saw during the Mag'har scenario. Unlike the void, most of the leading nations of Azeroth happily welcome the light at first, allowing itself to quickly spread in a way that the legion, death and void were never allowed. Then again, a bunch of titans and titan adjacent beings use the light casually.

    c) Seeing us triumph over the void that scares them without their aid, the titans decide that we are as big and powerful of a threat to azeroth as the void was, and just kinda decide to disinfect it of us just in case

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    I really hope they ease up the restrictions on soulbound gear. The new account bound gear should apply to all gear. If I pick up cloth pants on my main in raid, I should be able to send those to my alts.

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    Mark my words: by the end of TLT we will get our Legion artifact weapons back to defeat the final threat of this saga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruxx View Post
    Things going "Wildly out of control" leading into the Last Titan implies that something goes wrong, justifying (or at least "justifying") the titans deciding to intervene.
    The predictable options would be ;

    a) We fail, the corrupted (yet again) sunwell explodes/successfully summons a Void Lord/ other void shenanigan. We did NOT put an end to the void forever.

    b) With the void successfully dealt with, the light feels comfy to make its move, similar to what we saw during the Mag'har scenario. Unlike the void, most of the leading nations of Azeroth happily welcome the light at first, allowing itself to quickly spread in a way that the legion, death and void were never allowed. Then again, a bunch of titans and titan adjacent beings use the light casually.

    c) Seeing us triumph over the void that scares them without their aid, the titans decide that we are as big and powerful of a threat to azeroth as the void was, and just kinda decide to disinfect it of us just in case
    Option B imho is the most likely one since they said expressly were defeating the void for good, but thinks amy not go according to plan, meaning defeating teh void with teh light might indeed just mean replacing one evil with another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitemeridian View Post
    I really hope they ease up the restrictions on soulbound gear. The new account bound gear should apply to all gear. If I pick up cloth pants on my main in raid, I should be able to send those to my alts.
    Not a good idea. That way you could fully gear a char w/o logging on him even once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdslime View Post
    Mark my words: by the end of TLT we will get our Legion artifact weapons back to defeat the final threat of this saga.
    Fat chance. Unless it is purely for cosmetics, no way they will tie any player power to it once more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitemeridian View Post
    I really hope they ease up the restrictions on soulbound gear. The new account bound gear should apply to all gear. If I pick up cloth pants on my main in raid, I should be able to send those to my alts.
    This is precisely what they don't want. If you make all soulbound gear tradeable to alts, then the most efficient way to gear is to make a bunch of throwaway alts, and then have them funnel gear to your main. This way you could get months' worth of gear within a single week, trivializing gearing completely.

    Avoiding this issue would require capping gear by week across all characters, meaning you could only gear a single character per week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    This is precisely what they don't want. If you make all soulbound gear tradeable to alts, then the most efficient way to gear is to make a bunch of throwaway alts, and then have them funnel gear to your main. This way you could get months' worth of gear within a single week, trivializing gearing completely.
    WF raiders would literally get a seizure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Sure, that covers their involvement in the main plot, but how do they intend to "unite the elven tribes" when the Nelves don't exactly sympathize with the Belves.

    What prevents them from pissing off when all is over and go back to isolating from one another.
    Also, I do wonder if by "uniting all elven tribes" they also mean naga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruxx View Post
    Things going "Wildly out of control" leading into the Last Titan implies that something goes wrong, justifying (or at least "justifying") the titans deciding to intervene.
    The predictable options would be ;

    a) We fail, the corrupted (yet again) sunwell explodes/successfully summons a Void Lord/ other void shenanigan. We did NOT put an end to the void forever.

    b) With the void successfully dealt with, the light feels comfy to make its move, similar to what we saw during the Mag'har scenario. Unlike the void, most of the leading nations of Azeroth happily welcome the light at first, allowing itself to quickly spread in a way that the legion, death and void were never allowed. Then again, a bunch of titans and titan adjacent beings use the light casually.

    c) Seeing us triumph over the void that scares them without their aid, the titans decide that we are as big and powerful of a threat to azeroth as the void was, and just kinda decide to disinfect it of us just in case
    Option C is the most likely.

    To begin with, I think that Blizzard/Metzen are backtracking hard on the "Naaru/Army of the Light is Evil" narrative. The Mag'har scenario was always an irrelevant side content that most people either forgot or didn't know about, and it can just be hand-waved away as alternate timeline. Xe'ra was not really evil, nor did she desire to conquer the Cosmos or get the World-Soul. She was just blinded by her visions of Illidan as the saviour against the Legion, fucked around and found out.

    So I think that the Void will be defeated in Midnight with the help of the Light and the Light will just stick around as allies, but not suddenly launch their own war, because I think Metzen/Blizzard are backtracking hard on the "Naaru are evil" narrative that the Mag'har scenario pushed forward.

    Before announcing the Worldsoul saga, Metzen talked about the final showdown between Light and Void and then the Titans' mystery. I think they are two separate storylines and won't converge. So, Midnight will conclude the Light vs. Void storyline, and Last Titan will be focused solely on the Titans' mystery.

    As for why the Titans would suddenly turn hostile; it could be because they see the mortals as a threat after they defeat the Void, or because they sense a window of opportunity to make their move after the Void is defeated.

    Options A and B are both unlikely. Option A is unlikely because I doubt Blizzard will have the Void share spotlight with the Titans. Such major storylines should not try to share the spotlight of an expansion, or you get rushed mess like BfA. We might get remnants of Yogg-Saron through Ulduar and N'Zoth through the Blade, but the Void invasion will be prevented in Midnight. Option B is unlikely because I see Metzen backtracking on the Light/Naaru are evil narrative.
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    Just realized we should be bound for a race by the time Midnight hits. Given the Elf theme, any ideas?

    Spellbreaker?

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