The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[bruxx]

Just realized we should be bound for a race by the time Midnight hits. Given the Elf theme, any ideas?

Spellbreaker?

Elf-only tinker - The elven tribes realize that they have refused to evolve and adapt due to their isolationism, they decide to come forward together as tinkers. No gnomes or goblins.

Why? Because it'll be such a good read on these forums alongside some popcorn.

[ChronoSul]

Just realized we should be bound for a race by the time Midnight hits. Given the Elf theme, any ideas?

Spellbreaker?

The evolved nerubians who weirdly kindof look like elfs. Or even Nagas who are just mutated elfs. Classwise I REALLY hope we dont get yet another elf only class

[Trumpwonumad]

It’s annoying to see yet another advanced race and no technology-based class to indulge in the fantasy of being a steampunk adventurer.

yea they never gonna add that class.

[Woggmer]

The evolved nerubians who weirdly kindof look like elfs. Or even Nagas who are just mutated elfs. Classwise I REALLY hope we dont get yet another elf only class

I'll be honest, I kinda don't like the whole "the evolved nerubians look like elves" analogy since we already had that back in Legion with the Fal'dorei

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Fal%27dorei

Spoiler: 

[PotHockets]

Is another elf race or elf restricted class or elf inspired class really adding anything interesting to the game?

For the very large bulk of the playerbase that likes elves yes it is.

[Teriz]

yea they never gonna add that class.

Ion already stated that there was going to be another class down the line.

Only thing left really is a tech-based class.

[Nightshade711]

Ion already stated that there was going to be another class down the line.

Only thing left really is a tech-based class.

That is unless they throw something else out of nowhere like they did Evoker.

They could add something like Bard

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Just realized we should be bound for a race by the time Midnight hits. Given the Elf theme, any ideas?

Spellbreaker?

The Artificer thing that was mentioned before TWW could be interesting.

Playable Ethereals, and Artificer to go alongside them. However I personally think they’ll save the new class for TLT.

[Cheezits]

So..... do we think the Five Naaru who taught the first Human priests about the Light through visions are stuck in the Hallowsfall crystal?

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Mereldar

[seainma]

Option C is the most likely.

To begin with, I think that Blizzard/Metzen are backtracking hard on the "Naaru/Army of the Light is Evil" narrative. The Mag'har scenario was always an irrelevant side content that most people either forgot or didn't know about, and it can just be hand-waved away as alternate timeline. Xe'ra was not really evil, nor did she desire to conquer the Cosmos or get the World-Soul. She was just blinded by her visions of Illidan as the saviour against the Legion, fucked around and found out.

So I think that the Void will be defeated in Midnight with the help of the Light and the Light will just stick around as allies, but not suddenly launch their own war, because I think Metzen/Blizzard are backtracking hard on the "Naaru are evil" narrative that the Mag'har scenario pushed forward.

Before announcing the Worldsoul saga, Metzen talked about the final showdown between Light and Void and then the Titans' mystery. I think they are two separate storylines and won't converge. So, Midnight will conclude the Light vs. Void storyline, and Last Titan will be focused solely on the Titans' mystery.

As for why the Titans would suddenly turn hostile; it could be because they see the mortals as a threat after they defeat the Void, or because they sense a window of opportunity to make their move after the Void is defeated.

Options A and B are both unlikely. Option A is unlikely because I doubt Blizzard will have the Void share spotlight with the Titans. Such major storylines should not try to share the spotlight of an expansion, or you get rushed mess like BfA. We might get remnants of Yogg-Saron through Ulduar and N'Zoth through the Blade, but the Void invasion will be prevented in Midnight. Option B is unlikely because I see Metzen backtracking on the Light/Naaru are evil narrative.

What I find interesting is that for the Arathi they are described as wielding Holy Fire instead of Holy Light. I wonder if they are creating a different way to wield the light rather than what we are used too.. I'm not sure they are moving away from Light can be evil. We did just have a Scarlet Crusade partially return in the Heritage armor story and in the Shadowlands the naaru that was captured Z'rali mentioned she couldn't return to the other naaru because they would consider her tainted. This of course doesn't mean that all naaru are bad but I think they have a strict goal that they all adhere too and they don't accept any deviation.

The crystal in Hallowfall is very similar to a naaru turning light and void. Not sure what that means super excited to find out.

Overall I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to build a not all void is bad with Alleria and not all light is good with Anduin.

[Nightshade711]

One thing I’m curious about in regards to the light crystal thing is the mechanics.

I wanna know if it turning to void truly is random or if that’s just the stand-in for a day/night cycle.

[Cheezits]

I don't think Mag'har scenario was implying Naaru/Light is evil. It's heavily implied the Lightmother mentioned is Xe'ra, which lines up with our Xe'ra, who while not evil was antagonistic to a point that Illidan fried her.

Xe'ra wherever she is is a bad naaru. If she crosses over with Yrel, then we may get some of that, but so far none of the others have been antagonistic.

However I do think the "Light made a bargain with the enemy of all" pertains to them and the Titans (from the POV of the Void, the Titans are the enemy of all things outside of their Order, and Keepers seem to have Light powers) and might mean that if the Titans are beaten/agree to leave Azeroth then something might happen with the Light.

Maybe they agreed to give Azeroth over to the Light if they can't handle it?

[Auxis]

One thing I’m curious about in regards to the light crystal thing is the mechanics.

I wanna know if it turning to void truly is random or if that’s just the stand-in for a day/night cycle.

I'm pretty sure it's random. One of the devs says that this shift to void is causing concern amongst the people of Hallowfall. Busy atm but I'll try and find a clip of it.

[Merryck]

What kind of launch window are we looking at with the beta being in spring? On track for an August release?

[Vakir]

Is Arator that useless and weak of a character that his only purpose is to get kidnapped by Xal'atath so that Alleria has a justification to give into the whispers?

I can see that happening.

But I would laugh at how pathetic and useless of a character Arator is, if his only contribution to the story in 20 years will be to get kidnapped by a knife so that his mother can become a villain.

Arator seems like a post-timeskip main character, really. At least, that's what I'd have said 7 years ago. Now I dunno.

What kind of launch window are we looking at with the beta being in spring? On track for an August release?

"Fall 2024." So yeah.

[Auxis]

One thing I’m curious about in regards to the light crystal thing is the mechanics.

I wanna know if it turning to void truly is random or if that’s just the stand-in for a day/night cycle.

Found it, at 20:48:


"Unfortunately, the crystal sun has been changing in recent years. Where once the light was steady and reliable, it now fades without warning - plunging the Arathi into darkness."

[KyleEverett]

Arator seems like a post-timeskip main character, really. At least, that's what I'd have said 7 years ago. Now I dunno.



"Fall 2024." So yeah.

Unfortunately August is Midsummer. 9/20-12/20 is your rough window.

[Vakir]

Unfortunately August is Midsummer. 9/20-12/20 is your rough window.

Close enough. Not like they'll be on schedule anyway, sadly.

[Chickat]

I really hope they ease up the restrictions on soulbound gear. The new account bound gear should apply to all gear. If I pick up cloth pants on my main in raid, I should be able to send those to my alts.

They will not do that. It would make it mandatory for raiders to have at least 3 or 4 alts to funnel gear to their main. Bad idea.

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Just realized we should be bound for a race by the time Midnight hits. Given the Elf theme, any ideas?

Spellbreaker?

I dont think they will do one. Maybe some specs. I think our next class is tinker/artificer in 13.0.

BTW someone said there was an interview confirming they have multiple wow teams now. They are working on 12.0 as well as 11.0. They like the patch cadence of DF and want to continue it. So i think that confirms 18 month expansions with 5 to 8 patches and 3 tiers assuming what I heard was true, and assuming they can pull it off. Im 100% fine with 3 tiers and 18 month expansions.

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Ion already stated that there was going to be another class down the line.

Only thing left really is a tech-based class.

Im with you Teriz.

[KyleEverett]

I think we'll see a group of Naga join us during Midnight. They are technically a subgroup of Elves. I do have to wonder what is so important about the Sunwell though that Night Elves and possibly Naga are needed to defend it?

[PotHockets]

Unfortunately August is Midsummer. 9/20-12/20 is your rough window.

I would put money on Sept 24th