The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Xilurm]

Ok so he didn't really explain much about what it might be. I wonder if it's like the encyclopedia feature FFXIV added in the latest expansion where you can look up names of persons or terms of important stuff like "the black empire" or "the war of the shifting sands" and have a couple of paragraphs of lore about it, in game.

[Ersula]

Ion just said they want to keep the iconic old world vibrant and relevant. We'll probably get more revamps beyond TLT.

Personally I never cared about Loading screens, but they seem to be obsessed with the notion of the entire planet being seamless. This might be part of that. If they can get past the technical limitations, it might be possible to fly from The Dragon Isles to The Broken Isles over Quel'thalas by the end of Midnight. And Probably be able to circumnavigate all of Azeroth by 16.0

[Xilurm]

Personally I never cared about Loading screens, but they seem to be obsessed with the notion of the entire planet being seamless. This might be part of that. If they can get past the technical limitations, it might be possible to fly from The Dragon Isles to The Broken Isles over Quel'thalas by the end of Midnight. And Probably be able to circumnavigate all of Azeroth by 16.0

That'd be wild. Instead of a "fatigue" bar you get a "sonic boom" buff and you start flying at 4-5 times the speed you normally would with dynamic flying.

[Tsamane]

Wonder what talents will look like come Midnight/The Last Titan
They added Hero Talents as a way from preventing the current trees getting bloated.

[Grimbold21]

Got to say, I have to play SoD. It seems so interesting. Imagine if it had updated models . . .
Just finding it impossible to decide what to play.

They should just go the D2R with Classic. Enable update graphics with a Toggle option.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

If nothing else its worth noting that Overwatch Content Plan had a Overwatch Lore "thing" on its schedule and well maybe this Azerothian Archives is the equivalent for WoW?

If it is I'd be extremely happy but if not, oh well.

[Ersula]

Wonder what talents will look like come Midnight/The Last Titan
They added Hero Talents as a way from preventing the current trees getting bloated.

I expect they add a random amount of new Hero Talent sets (that name is so confusing. I'd rather they called them Hero Specializations) each expansion. It's either that or they extend the existing Hero Talent trees....but at that point it would be wild to balance three full interchangeable talent trees.

Not to mention, anyone guessing they're adding another DH spec before 11.0? Considering they're designed to have multiple options, giving Druid 4 but Demon Hunter 2 seems like a cruel joke. There's no reason for there to be a specific number of these.

[Worldshaper]

Is that what I think it is? (still watching)

What did he say so I don't get excited that we get a Lore Tab.

Ok so he didn't really explain much about what it might be. I wonder if it's like the encyclopedia feature FFXIV added in the latest expansion where you can look up names of persons or terms of important stuff like "the black empire" or "the war of the shifting sands" and have a couple of paragraphs of lore about it, in game.

If nothing else its worth noting that Overwatch Content Plan had a Overwatch Lore "thing" on its schedule and well maybe this Azerothian Archives is the equivalent for WoW?

I think it would be smart if they combined a bunch of related UI panels into one, with tabs. Similar to the Adventure Guide but more focused on past deeds and lore, rather than content you could be doing next.

So bring over the three tabs Achievements, Guild, and Statistics.

But also add something like...

> Heroic Deeds - your major achievements, like completing the entire storyline of Dragonflight and all its related content
> Azerothian Archives - a lore book that grows over time as you explore Azeroth, complete content, collect in-game items and books, etc.

Preferrably, there's also some place in Ironforge or wherever, where NPCs will guide you along this system. Perhaps a seasonal vendor with nice loot, or a massive tome in which they'll log your deeds and grant you some currency perhaps, or cosmetics.

Extra credits if portions of the Archives are narrated. For example a lengthy chapter about the creation of the Dragon Aspects, and somebody narrates it (optionally).

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Imagine if the Narrator of the Starting Zones could narrate that, would be really cool.

But hell, time to wait and see what it is before we overhype it beyond belief.

[Xilurm]

Oh my, they're thinking of continuing the Shade of Eranikus gem questline.

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Imagine if the Narrator of the Starting Zones could narrate that, would be really cool.

Which one? The Classic-Cata one sadly passed away a few months ago.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Which one? The Classic-Cata one sadly passed away a few months ago.

Well, that sucks.

Oh well, Azerothian Archives could be a Gameplay system/location too. So best to just wait and see what it actually is.

[Worldshaper]

Which one? The Classic-Cata one sadly passed away a few months ago.

How about a few choices.

For example, Jaina Proudmoore could be one available narrator if you like the voice of Laura Bailey.

[Xilurm]

How about a few choices.

For example, Jaina Proudmoore could be one available narrator if you like the voice of Laura Bailey.

Jennifer Hale would be nice. She is currently voicing all the dryads in the Emerald Dream. Oh and Merithra of course.

[Pheraz]

Oh no Samwise Didier retiring from blizzard
https://twitter.com/SamwiseDidier/st...66458387759316

[Alanar]

How about a few choices.

For example, Jaina Proudmoore could be one available narrator if you like the voice of Laura Bailey.

I seriously hate her voice. Sounds so whiny and tryhard troubled al the time. Annoying to listen to anything jaina has to say.

Il pass.

[Xilurm]

Oh no Samwise Didier retiring from blizzard
https://twitter.com/SamwiseDidier/st...66458387759316

That sucks. Was he the art director for DF tho? Pretty sure it was someone else to begin with.

[Vakir]

You do realize the Worldsoul Saga was made to start up the next 20 years of WoW, yeah? Also, the Progenitors exist to build up new stories in WoW. They never never made to replace the Titans or so.

Having a cohesive starting point that explains the cosmology is poison for storytelling.

"Light and Darkness clashed and it made chaos and all kinds of crazy shit just kinda happened and here's these living planets that tried to make sense of it, idfk. They failed and all died." is very different from Progenitors that have clearly defined patterns and prophecies and had an active and immediate role in our success like the waygates.

You can get a sense of SOME of the broader stuff to open more mysteries, but as soon as they made a Pantheon for every force and made those forces completely irrelevant and indirectly subservient to a bigger fish, it all went out the window. Now any direct interaction has to be filtered through the nonsense of "yeah, but the First Ones, tho."

I don't expect someone this much of a fanboy of this stuff to be anywhere near objective. First you were Sargeras, then you were Argus, and now you're The First Ones, and I'm sure in 30 years when they try to keep this horse beaten, you will be all-in on geeking out over "the Sacred One," who created the six First Ones as tools of his creation and order. ...but not capital-O Order. That's the other guys. For some reason.

SL did damage that is only now reversible only depending on how they spend this next chunk of time. Frankly, going back to Chronicle Vol. 1 and making it Doylist would be nice. They can tell stories for the next 20 years about Azeroth's people and cultures without it being about us killing different flavors of gods. They succeeded in doing so during their most popular and lucrative times, in fact. Nobody gave a fuck about whether Arthas could beat whoever, unless you're talking about that battle at the end of TFT.

[Lorca]

No one asked about the possibility of allied races for this expansion or more for the next one? Or about new classes? Or about why we can’t already level questing or in dungeons with cross-faction? Seriously?

[Vakir]

No one asked about the possibility of allied races for this or more for the next expansion? Or about new classes? Or about why we can’t already level questing or in dungeons with cross-faction? Seriously?

They almost assuredly did, and this is why Blizzard screens everything now. They're only gonna give you the information they want to give you anyway, but now in the form of a question. It's almost like Jeopardy.

Besides, almost all of that is just gonna be "we're not ready to reveal that" or some other non-answer.

[Xilurm]

No one asked about the possibility of allied races for this expansion or more for the next one? Or about new classes? Or about why we can’t already level questing or in dungeons with cross-faction? Seriously?

That was answered. Queueing in DF without a premade group might ruin it for the people that are immersed into the faction theme.