The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

Better, Gilneas, Nelf, and Undercity.

I think it will be the Windtotem Tauren town and Bel'amath, or it will just be Bel'amath neutral questing.

Gilneas we will probably get back this expansion but I doubt it will get revamped or turned into an actual city.

[Ferlion]

They have less excuse than back in Cataclysm. All the Aspects have unique models, Vyranoth has a unique skeleton too. There's zero reason to make them people. Have the aspects go ham against some fodder, have their allies arrive, and have the other aspects be the one to help save Alex, then go through the motions. It's a really basic story and the rest of the patch is functional in telling it for what it is, it really isn't very complicated not to fuck it up. I have no idea which heavy intellect decided that the solution to all the giant dragons being four elves and a cow was to also make the giant evil dragon into a tiny man with an axe.



The less said about book Malf the better.

This was actually answered in an interview, and it makes sense. It's one of those developer problem that nobody thinks about so a solution was made.

Players look down. That's the entire reason.

Players look at dragons feet, so they miss the dialog bubbles, and read the text in chat, and as a result are less engaged.

[Murlocos]

This was actually answered in an interview, and it makes sense. It's one of those developer problem that nobody thinks about so a solution was made.

Players look down. That's the entire reason.

Players look at dragons feet, so they miss the dialog bubbles, and read the text in chat, and as a result are less engaged.

This is talking about cutscenes though, not gameplay.

[Dracullus]

Just realized that Midnight is Patch 12.0....

I hope dude that came up with that idea get a raise.

[Well Done Steak]

Here's a curve ball...

If TLT is supposed to be an epic finale. Which major characters will kick the bucket?

For me Thrall is the most likely. Prob lorthemar and Thalyssra after their child is born, classic Remus and tonks situation.

On alliance, maybe Genn or Velen? Wouldnt be surprised if Turalyon kicks it.

As for neutral characters, I say probably Alexstrasza, definitely Sargeras and maybe Illidan.

I don't see sylvana dying but maybe severely injured. Perhaps losing her bow arm.

[Alanar]

Here's a curve ball...

If TLT is supposed to be an epic finale. Which major characters will kick the bucket?

For me Thrall is the most likely. Prob lorthemar and Thalyssra after their child is born, classic Remus and tonks situation.

On alliance, maybe Genn or Velen? Wouldnt be surprised if Turalyon kicks it.

As for neutral characters, I say probably Alexstrasza, definitely Sargeras and maybe Illidan.

I don't see sylvana dying but maybe severely injured. Perhaps losing her bow arm.

Idk, opinions I guess.

[Cheezits]

I think Sylvanas 100% has a chance of dying if she comes back to help Quel'thalas. 200% if she has to stop a corrupted Alleria.

While her being in penance for all her suffering makes sense as a worthy fate, it also makes sense for her to earn her final rest defending Quel'thalas again.

Though, they may just give Sylvanas's role to Vereesa so that Sylvanas can be held to her (seemingly eternal) job of saving souls in the Maw. Also Vereesa definitely needs some spotlight.

[Lahis]

Just realized that Midnight is Patch 12.0....

And yet it is not called Noon.

[Vakir]

Though, they may just give Sylvanas's role to Vereesa so that Sylvanas can be held to her (seemingly eternal) job of saving souls in the Maw. Also Vereesa definitely needs some spotlight.

She deserves some spotlight but she's still the Peggy of the Windrunner Sisters. Nobody generally cares so they won't expand her role AND be the emotional crux probably.

[Cheezits]

She deserves some spotlight but she's still the Peggy of the Windrunner Sisters. Nobody generally cares so they won't expand her role AND be the emotional crux probably.

Sylvanas is still serving her sentence and Vereesa is a leader of THE High Elf faction, so it makes sense she would be a focus versus Sylvanas.

Not the first time they have turned a lesser-used character into a main one. Alleria wasn't even in WoW until Legion.

[Vakir]

Sylvanas is still serving her sentence and Vereesa is a leader of THE High Elf faction, so it makes sense she would be a focus versus Sylvanas.

Not the first time they have turned a lesser-used character into a main one. Alleria wasn't even in WoW until Legion.

That's fair regarding Alleria, albeit people obsessively asked about her and Turaylon. (They totally threw aside Arathor's dream)

I don't doubt they'll bring her in as a major character but I do anticipate Sylvanas.

Pretty sad if that final reunion was that awful incoherent comic. Kinda feel like if Illidan is inevitably coming back in TLT because of the implications of the Titans returning, Sylvanas should really be present for the grand finale or part of it. And I say that as someone who hated the tumor that was her in basically every other recent expansion.

[Cheezits]

That's fair regarding Alleria, albeit people obsessively asked about her and Turaylon. (They totally threw aside Arathor's dream)

I don't doubt they'll bring her in as a major character but I do anticipate Sylvanas.

Pretty sad if that final reunion was that awful incoherent comic. Kinda feel like if Illidan is inevitably coming back in TLT because of the implications of the Titans returning, Sylvanas should really be present for the grand finale or part of it. And I say that as someone who hated the tumor that was her in basically every other recent expansion.

Illidan coming back in TLT makes me think it is going to be both the World of Warcraft first arc ending as well as the REAL Warcraft 3 ending (minus Arthas) with definitive ends to Thrall, Jaina, Illidan, Tyrande(?) and Sylvanas, so yeah it would make sense for her to be back by then. I just don't think she'll be back as the main Alliance elf for Midnight.

I really think Alleria will be the main bad guy for Midnight so someone will need to take her place.

[Vakir]

I really think Alleria will be the main bad guy for Midnight so someone will need to take her place.

Yeah that's the prevailing theory. I think she'll at least be the secondary antagonist (Illidan, Nazgrim, Killrogg, Gul'dan, Sylvanas TWICE, etc).

Can't wait for Anduin to say "she lost the war within" and turn to the camera.

[Sondrelk]

This is talking about cutscenes though, not gameplay.

For cutscenes the answer is that you don't want to have to zoom out to such an extent you notice how small the areas really are when compared to the actual Dragon models.
It definitely doesnt make sense that Fyrakk changes back to a smaller form to attack Alexstrasza, who is also in a humanoid form. But the only real options if you wanted to have them be in Dragon form and talk is to have them in the cramped valley in front, where it would look like that level in Super Mario 64 where everything was tiny.
Even worse would be having full sized dragons interracting, or even just standing near regular sized humanoids. Even giant NPCs like Baine are barely larger than Alexstrasza's foot. He would look like an ant standing next to her in cutscenes like that.

[Dracullus]

I hope for roadmap tomorrow, although it's possible we will get it close to end of year - I checked last year and 10.0.5 reveal was few days before roadmap.

[Xilurm]

I hope for roadmap tomorrow, although it's possible we will get it close to end of year - I checked last year and 10.0.5 reveal was few days before roadmap.

Didn't Ion say during the Q&A that they will reveal a roadmap in the upcoming months?

[Varodoc]

Bruh, this isn't Game of Thrones, just because Metzen said some cool stuff to hype the Worldsoul saga doesn't mean that they'll kill so many iconic characters.

I absolutely can't see Jaina, Thrall, Tyrande, or Illidan die, because they are so popular and iconic.

I can't see Lor'themar and Thalyssra die because they had their Disney wedding and all the Twitter shippers would get mad if they killed them (and we know that's the crowd Blizzard caters to nowadays).

I can see Turalyon and Arator being sacrificed to the Void by Alleria as her moral event horizon, in the event that Blizzard wants to villain-bat Alleria.

Finally, I can see both Alleria and Sylvanas dying permanently in the Midnight and being reunited in the Shadowlands ala Malygos and Sindragosa.

[Vakir]

I can see Tyrande dying since she'd go right back to Ardenweald to be with Malf.

I can see Illidan dying and slowly reforming in the Nether for BS Retcon reasons to be a returning wild card or mentor character in some future Warcraft iteration.

Thrall seems unlikely because he has a family. Jaina seems unlikely.

Really just makes me think any sort of high power character automatically seems pretty whatever if they die because of making the afterlife a complete known means we'll see them again having a huge presence in the Shadowlands and that kills a lot of drama.

I can even see them hand waving Arthas into making a brief appearance somehow with how unpopular his end was.

[Raetary]

For a cutscene where Ysera pretends she actually did anything this expansion, it's quite well made.

where the fuck is Malfurion though?

[Cheezits]

For a cutscene where Ysera pretends she actually did anything this expansion, it's quite well made.

where the fuck is Malfurion though?

"Repay a debt to an old friend"

Sounds like she has to go tag him out. I guess he'll get a big welcome party next patch?