1. #58821
    Quote Originally Posted by flan1337 View Post
    Hey -

    Do you think the dragon isles should have been placed north Kal and below Borean Tundra? If this was the case the races in the dragon Isles would have made more sense how they got there. It would have also made the tree much closer to the Night Elves homelands.
    They were the Dragon Isles before the Sundering happened. They're actually not part of that map.

  2. #58822
    @Ersula

    They flat out said in interviews they were still defining the conclusion and key story moments for freakin' Sanctum of Domination during the pandemic. By that point Afrasiabi was long gone, and that's just 9.1.

    Afrasiabi said at the BlizzCon stage that revealed SL that Sylvanas serves nobody and has her own hidden agenda. By the time SL released, she was actually in on his plan and was presented as a deceived pawn until she made her turn at the end of 9.1.

    Steve flat out said that he wrote the loyalist dreck from Sylvanas during the Forsaken questline. On Twitter. A few months ago.

    From what we do know of Afrasiabi's work and his tendencies, the First Ones stuff doesn't even resemble his usual M.O. Alex tended to be big on sudden shock events or major character shakeups (Manabomb Jaina, Teldrassil, Cata-Garrosh taking the wheel, even the sky opening over Icecrown) but never seemed to give a fuck about the wider cosmology. Anytime someone went in depth about the Death pantheon or anything related, including before his departure, it was Danuser.

    It is entirely possible for Alex and Steve to both suck without jumping through hoops to defend the latter.

    For the "people always blame a name" arguments from people, that is true, but its not necessarily always the same people, and, man, sometimes situations make you realize how much you miss someone like Chris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    WoW fans have always been vocally critical of the finale cinematic of every expansion....except, ironically, WoD. But I guess that's just because people were happy it was over.
    DRAENOOOOR IS FREEEEEEE

    People will complain about anything with a fan base this large and impassioned but Wrath and Legion's finales more or less got the best reception. For the former I do not know why beyond ARTHAAAAS, I KNOOOW WHO THAT IS
    Last edited by Vakir; 2023-11-16 at 05:29 PM. Reason: added bottom quote

  3. #58823
    Maybe that's why they are trying to writer something bigger with the Worldsoul Saga. Maybe they know that writing things as they go isn't the best approach.

  4. #58824
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Maybe that's why they are trying to writer something bigger with the Worldsoul Saga. Maybe they know that writing things as they go isn't the best approach.
    That's why I have a little more faith.

    Just a little. I still expect schlock because it always has been - but entertaining and internally consistent schlock.

  5. #58825
    So, 10.2.5 happens today, right? In about 10 minutes? I do not see much hype for it. I personally hope that it is at least as good as 10.1.5, which IMO was pretty cool. Hopefully even better.

    I would say that the TW revamp, archaeology revamp, the new ''books'' feature that Morgan Day mentioned a few days ago, the return of the Brawler's Guild, more classes opened to all races... those are all things that we expect to happen, probably within DF, but there will be more. Maybe playable Drakonids?
    Last edited by Darkarath; 2023-11-16 at 05:54 PM.
    Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.


  6. #58826
    Hey, I got one right! Gilneas!

    The rest is uninteresting to me but AI for dungeons is huge.

  7. #58827
    Unique customization for Draenei
    This has me hopeful (even after the BE "customization" stuff we got) mainly due to the mention of unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post

    Nothing on Amirdrassil yet...darn
    Does say Dragon Isles Epilogues so would be there maybe.

  8. #58828
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    This has me hopeful (even after the BE "customization" stuff we got) mainly due to the mention of unique.
    Lol, if it's secretly Broken, that would be huge. But I think it's just cracked skin for Man'ari.

  9. #58829
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Hey, I got one right! Gilneas!

    The rest is uninteresting to me but AI for dungeons is huge.
    You were right. It was a N*ght elf patch.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

  10. #58830
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Lol, if it's secretly Broken, that would be huge. But I think it's just cracked skin for Man'ari.
    I'm figuring Man'ari too, but it'll be something more than just hair I figure, especially as the troll portion mentions hair but the draenei doesn't.

  11. #58831
    Adding fel scars to Man'ari would be cool.

  12. #58832
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    You were right. It was a N*ght elf patch.
    If the city building quests are lowkey in the Epilogue, it will doubly be Nelfpatch. But it may just be 10.2.7 bait.

    Very curious who is occupying Gilneas if it's not the Forsaken.

  13. #58833
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Very curious who is occupying Gilneas if it's not the Forsaken.
    It should be a Forsaken vs. Worgen fight, but Blizzard would sooner leap off a cliff than take faction content. I figure Calia, peace be upon her, will be there to help with the handover and the enemies will be either left-over Bloodfang, left-over Sylv loyalists, or misc. plague abominations from when the city was gassed.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

  14. #58834
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    It should be a Forsaken vs. Worgen fight, but Blizzard would sooner leap off a cliff than take faction content. I figure Calia, peace be upon her, will be there to help with the handover and the enemies will be either left-over Bloodfang, left-over Sylv loyalists, or misc. plague abominations from when the city was gassed.
    A fun deep cut, and expansion-appropriate, would be the contingent of Black Dragon-controlled Worgen guys.

    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blackhowl

  15. #58835
    The question is, will Gilneas become a hub after that?

  16. #58836
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    A fun deep cut, and expansion-appropriate, would be the contingent of Black Dragon-controlled Worgen guys.

    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blackhowl
    That'd actually be a cool touch, I'll give you and mesh with the expansion. Also'd fit for Wrathion.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

  17. #58837
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    The question is, will Gilneas become a hub after that?
    Probably not, just like Amirdrassil isn't.

    This all may be building up to an eventual graphics/functionality pass over all the capitals (including Bilgewater?) in Midnight. So it's not just Silvermoon.
    Last edited by Cheezits; 2023-11-16 at 06:15 PM.

  18. #58838
    Troll customization . .. but no beards.

  19. #58839
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Troll customization . .. but no beards.
    The ultimate gut punch. Can only be saved by Krokul/Broken customization surprise for Draenei. We'll only get fel scars for Man'ari though, I believe.

  20. #58840
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Troll customization . .. but no beards.
    They aren't giving anyone anything that isn't an asset swap. They probably aren't allowed to. Makes you wonder if there will ever be another "customization update" if ever.

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