The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Merryck]

For the love of god, please no.
I am so sick of Nelves already.

The focus should be on Draenei, the master race. It's the Light vs Void expansion. Elves should be shelved.

[Jaggler]

The focus should be on Draenei, the master race. It's the Light vs Void expansion. Elves should be shelved.

I would rather have that than the alternative.

Would be great to have some crumb of Horde content again. Just a small morsel Mr. Blizzard pls.

[Merryck]

I would rather have that than the alternative.

Would be great to have some crumb of Horde content again. Just a small morsel Mr. Blizzard pls.

You haven't realised it. This is an Alliance game now. Blizzard will throw you a bone in Midnight, your pesky Blood Elves will get some content, but just know that the Alliance is the star of this grand narrative.

[Worldshaper]

Im sure the orcs said the same thing about leaving Draenor. Times change.

I'm sure they didn't, because Draenor was never their home in WoW. The place Horde players are sentimental about is Durotar.

[Nymrohd]

I'm sure they didn't, because Draenor was never their home in WoW. The place Horde players are sentimental about is Durotar.

I would assume the significant majority of orcs in the Horde were born in the concentration camps in Lordaeron or in army camps. They probably never had a place to call home before Durotar.
Half the reason for a Kalimdor revamp for me is to see the results of the Ko'sharg on Horde settlements; I'd imagine the clans picking different areas and moving there. Imagine if the Dragonmaw changed to their old name and dedicated themselves to wyverns for instance.

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The focus should be on Draenei, the master race. It's the Light vs Void expansion. Elves should be shelved.

As long as the focus is on actual cultures instead of it being on the soap opera cast, I'm happy.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Meh, they didn't fix upright orcs 2h weapon clipping(appeared in 10.2) on 10.2.5 as of first release, but it seems like they even added new 2h sheathing when using mount.

[Wangming]

Oh yeah, Gilneas is back in business. best city gets more content. I smell a lot of new models.
Weird it won't be on the PTR. Guess they are planning something cool. Or rather something they think is cool.

[Daniri]

I would assume the significant majority of orcs in the Horde were born in the concentration camps in Lordaeron or in army camps. They probably never had a place to call home before Durotar.

The original portrayal of the lethargy of the orcs was so severely debilitating that it makes it unlikely there were that many orcs being born in the internment camps. If they bothered to remember the lethargy, the orc population pyramid should accordingly look like an hourglass, with the two largest cohorts being First War/Second War veterans and a very young generation born after the Third War.

[Nymrohd]

The original portrayal of the lethargy of the orcs was so severely debilitating that it makes it unlikely there were that many orcs being born in the internment camps. If they bothered to remember the lethargy, the orc population pyramid should accordingly look like an hourglass, with the two largest cohorts being First War/Second War veterans and a very young generation born after the Third War.

That does make sense to an extent but those orcs would be 16 now (Founding of Durotar was 23 and it's currently year 40). The young orcs who propped up Garrosh back in 28 would be really young, and I doubt 4 year olds' opinions matter among orcs
Meanwhile if they were born after the camps were established (at about 8-9) they would be 18-20 at most when Garrosh came to power which makes a lot of sense given Orcs mature quite younger.

[Dracullus]

Weird it won't be on the PTR. Guess they are planning something cool. Or rather something they think is cool.

Nothing weird about it, nowadays they often hide story content, for example all 4 Heritage questlines in DF.

[Xilurm]

Changing spell visuals and the hero talents in TWW gives me more hope that they want to provide a proper class/specc fantasy.

Ultimate Penitence is one of the best spells I've ever seen.

[Alanar]

Honestly the fact that shadow has become completely an old god cultist does not sit well with me

They pushed this in Legion. Never liked it.

Shadow has more themes that could be explored. Ravens, mind control, vampiric.

They choose the boring side of shadow imo.

[huth]

To turn stuff that makes no sense with the visual kit (shadow priests using one blood magic spell for seemingly no reason) into something that does. Because it makes more sense for Primordial Wave to be a swirling, multi-elemental spell similar to Elemental Blast and Adaptive Swarm to be a cloud of healing moths than both to be Maldraxxi death magic.

I also like the anima magic types. They just make no sense at all on most of the classes outside of the context of being lent power from the covenant you joined.

For what it's worth, most Druid abilities actually fit pretty well visually.

[Super Dickmann]

I would rather have that than the alternative.

Would be great to have some crumb of Horde content again. Just a small morsel Mr. Blizzard pls.

Both shamanistic plots about elemental upheaval were largely about night elf druids instead and Legion, the expansion about the top neutral orc nemesis, featured only one named orc, and that was Gul'dan. Oh, also Sadfang attempting to kill himself on the side.

[Valysar]

The new Love is in the air stuff seems very ... girl power (like Dragonflight?)

[Hitei]

The new Love is in the air stuff seems very ... girl power (like Dragonflight?)

It's Valentine's. The holiday entirely themed around pink and hearts. ...did you want lumberjack themed mounts and a biker transmog?

[Valysar]

It's Valentine's. The holiday entirely themed around pink and hearts. ...did you want lumberjack themed mounts and a biker transmog?

Yes.

/20characters

[Samin]

The new Love is in the air stuff seems very ... girl power (like Dragonflight?)

Girl Power or Magical Girl Power?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It's still Shadowlands stuff, it's just that now they have unique class colors, unlike before where it was just the baselines covenant look.

Ya it’s shadowlands gameplay but the shadowlands thematic dies which is wonderful.

They now need to go further and keep clearing that trash out.

[Alanar]

It's Valentine's. The holiday entirely themed around pink and hearts. ...did you want lumberjack themed mounts and a biker transmog?

More like powerpuff girl.