The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Oh seems Bel'ameth will be in this build

[Throren]

its nice that the PTR notes acknowledge that this new city will take time and that what we see is clearly not its finished state. I know that was pretty obvious but nice to see it basically confirmed that what we see there now on the PTR is just the start

[Nymrohd]

OK Bel'ameth has several gorgeous Night Elf buildings. not a proper city by any means but a very large town.

There is an area called Terrace of the Moon where Tyrande and Shandris are (labeled Unknown) which is completely new architecture. Also found an NPC named Hyjal visitor. There are even small houses (not real, closed doors fake buildings for ambiance) that are perched upon the tree's roots
There is a portal to Stormwind and a portal to Hyjal and Darkshore!
Shen'dralar NPC and Mordant, all profession trainers, a portal trainer and they offer the Valdrakken Profession quests; maybe this will become a secondary capital?

Yup, there is also a portal in the second floor of the SW portal room to Bel'ameth
And portals to Bel'ameth from Darkshore and Hyjal. The Darkshore portal is NOT to the same area with BfA! It is right next to still plagued Lor'danel




If they do a visual update of Darkshore and Hyjal my night elves will be very happy

[Murlocos]

There's a subarea called the Twilight Watchtower which seems to be a base for demon hunters and Darkfallen nelves. First time that we've seen them appear with the other nelves instead of the Forsaken I think?

Seems like there's going to be more towns than Bel'ameth, as there's guards called Luranaar Sentinels by the harbor. Also I think they're extra cognizant of the perception of abandoning Kalimdor as there's Darkshore/Feralas/etc. visitors scattered over the zone along with Amirdrassil Settlers.

Credit where credit is due, I think this is shaping up nicely.

[Nymrohd]

There's a subarea called the Twilight Watchtower which seems to be a base for demon hunters and Darkfallen nelves. First time that we've seen them appear with the other nelves instead of the Forsaken I think?

And there is Evenfall Watchtower area which includes a full harbor! Space for three ships

And a portal to Feathermoon Stronghold at the harbor. OK Bel'ameth lets you portal anywhere in Kalimdor effectively

OK the entire island is full of buildings, they are just spread out.

[arandomuser]

im hoping for this fated season they also bring back an old raid and have it scaleable up to mythic- s4 shadowlands was when they introduced old dungeons in M+ and it become permanent

[Merryck]

All the Gods would have to have a similar origin, especially Eonar. Now idk if the Titans were forged the same way the Eternal Ones were...hell they kinda aren't by default with the whole World Soul stuff, but it's clear they're forged in a Cosmic Factory regardless, just like the Eternal Ones and the other Cosmic Pantheons in their respective Zereths.

When I said robotic I was referring to their personalities. Their should be more depth to their personalities and goals, more than just "muh order."

[Luck4]

I hope Fated Raids turns out to be easier this time. Last time, it only became acceptable in the very last few weeks.

There's no point in making people progress again in raids that are less than a year old. The Fated Season should've been a FUN (Stress-Free) Season.

[Santandame]

Yes. It's a common mistake many people make to equate damage types with lore magic types.



Except it doesn't show what force he's drawing on. Damage schools are not magical forces you're drawing on. They're just for game mechanics.

You have no actual evidence for that it’s just your assumption.

[Raetary]

You have no actual evidence for that it’s just your assumption.

The entire games history of using random damage schools that don't actually have anything to do with the spells in question says hello.

Ever notice how half of DK spells deal shadow damage, despite none of their spells having anything to do with the Void?

[Santandame]

The entire games history of using random damage schools that don't actually have anything to do with the spells in question says hello.

Ever notice how half of DK spells deal shadow damage, despite none of their spells having anything to do with the Void?

Then to be completely pedantic, as minuscule as that connection may be, Death Knights would clearly have some connection to the Void/Shadow to be able to draw upon their power.

If Odyn didn’t have any affinity with the Light, then neither himself nor his underlings such as Hyrja would be able to call upon the Light to use as a force.

Death Knights didn’t randomly manage to channel shadow/void magic one day. The same with Odyn and the Light. The affinity for that magic is there.

And before you say “it’s just game mechanics”, then Odyn would just utilise arcane magic in his boss fights and nothing else. It would be like fighting the Lich King and he randomly started using elemental blast and then saying it’s for game mechanics. It wouldn’t make sense and if it did happen, it’s inclusion would be deliberate and suggest the Lich King had learned elemental magic or was connected to the elements.

[Zers Editor]

I will not mind if by the end of the saga, Anduin, after returning to the throne, is joined by Taelia (as a champion/close confidant) and Wrathion (as an advisor).

If we are to wrap up a 20-year-long story, might as well have some things run full circle. And no, I do not suggest romance between him and any of the latter two. Having it be purely platonic (like siblings, even) will give it a chance of not being written sloppily.

Two queer(?) BFFs is enough for the guy.

[Nymrohd]

I will not mind if by the end of the saga, Anduin, after returning to the throne, is joined by Taelia (as a champion/close confidant) and Wrathion (as an advisor).

If we are to wrap up a 20-year-long story, might as well have some things run full circle. And no, I do not suggest romance between him and any of the latter two. Having it be purely platonic (like siblings, even) will give it a chance of not being written sloppily.

Two queer(?) BFFs is enough for the guy.

I'd say Wrathion is queer coded in that he is very camp but that doesn't make him queer. And I don't see what is queer about Taelia. But I also have no need for them to be so arbitrarily.
That said I'd agree that Anduin needs peers. DF brought Durak and Rehze and we know TWW will feature Dagran. Bring Arator, Giramar and Galadin, maybe Dornaa and Salandria

[Xilurm]

You see? There are portals! Even in the portal room that lead towards Amirdrassil.

Get that "but they only give us portals to capitals" naysayers!

[Nymrohd]

I hope Fated Raids turns out to be easier this time. Last time, it only became acceptable in the very last few weeks.

There's no point in making people progress again in raids that are less than a year old. The Fated Season should've been a FUN (Stress-Free) Season.

I'd say they were all easier than their original versions. They were not significantly easier; you would not be able to stroll through Mythic for sure. But they still were simpler.

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You see? There are portals! Even in the portal room that lead towards Amirdrassil.

Get that "but they only give us portals to capitals" naysayers!

Honestly I'd rather we got to at least Darkshore and Feathermoon by boat instead. Obviously not possible for Hyjal.

[Sondrelk]

Honestly I'd rather we got to at least Darkshore and Feathermoon by boat instead. Obviously not possible for Hyjal.

As convenient as it probably is to have loads of portals, you cannot really beat the sense of size you get from actually having to take a ship.
Especialy when there is a dock area, with ships there already. Feels like a waste not to use them.

[Xilurm]

Honestly I'd rather we got to at least Darkshore and Feathermoon by boat instead. Obviously not possible for Hyjal.

Yeah I'd like that too. The thing I like though is that there's a portal to Bel'ameth in the SW portal room. People were quick to say "they will only put portals there for expansion capitals". Even though 10 expansions are going to take 20 years in REAL LIFE which makes no sense because by the time that happens SW might look completely different. Hell, the whole game might be different!

I just feel vindicated.

[Nymrohd]

Also, a shame there is no portal to the Dreamway for druids.

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Yeah I'd like that too. The thing I like though is that there's a portal to Bel'ameth in the SW portal room. People were quick to say "they will only put portals there for expansion capitals". Even though 10 expansions are going to take 20 years in REAL LIFE which makes no sense because by the time that happens SW might look completely different. Hell, the whole game might be different!

I just feel vindicated.

Yeah posters who have a specific idea for how something might be and refuse any other possibility are not worth considering imo.

[Xilurm]

The other slot is most likely for Gilneas now.

Also, has anyone tried going there as a Hordie? What happens?

[Nymrohd]

The other slot is most likely for Gilneas now.

Also, has anyone tried going there as a Hordie? What happens?

Nothing. Just don't step through the portals.