The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[doledippers]

idk if anyone noticed but looks like blizzard just restocked the dragonflight collectors editions on the gear store, kinda interesting. cant remember if theyve ever done that before

[Kiivar86]

The Draenei heritage armor quest line should have nothing to do with alternate Draenor ... That would be such a waste.

From what little has been datamined, it shouldn't deal with AU-Draenor much. There do seem to be Vigilants though which I am happy to see being brought over (or retconned into always existing).

[milkmustache]

From what little has been datamined, it shouldn't deal with AU-Draenor much. There do seem to be Vigilants though which I am happy to see being brought over (or retconned into always existing).

There's already been some stuff datamined for the Draenei heritage?? Where are you seeing this?

[Kiivar86]

There's already been some stuff datamined for the Draenei heritage?? Where are you seeing this?

I actually posted about it a few weeks back, I'll just quote myself:

For anyone interested, Portergauge on Twitter is looking through NPCs that got added into the files that look to be tied to the Draenei and Troll heritage armor quests.

Draenei-wise, looks to involve Auchindoun to some degree. D'ore, the naaru interred in Auchindoun is one, bunch of Soulpriest NPCs, deceased Exarchs including Maladaar, Vigilants (real happy to see those, I love their design).

Troll-wise, bunch of new or unused loa (Kevo ya Siti - Loa of Stealth, Lukou - Loa of Regeneration, Jani again, Har'koa who is Loque'nahak's mate), Mueh'zala's back (titled Imprisoned Loa of Death for what its worth) and some NPC that's an avatar of his, Bwonsamdi of course.

I'm certainly excited, especially for the draenei.

[Nightshade711]

I hope that with the Draenei heritage quest we could get an HD version of the Hammer of the Naaru.

A toy to give us a permanent gift of the Naaru like how the orcs have banners would be cool.

Saw someone mention a toy to turn them into a vigilant would be neat too since they share Draenei animations - but doubt it’ll happen.

[Viridiel]

I actually posted about it a few weeks back, I'll just quote myself:

I wonder if Q'onzu is involved and just wasn't mentioned because they're already recently in the files or if their absence here means they aren't involved.

[Woggmer]

So, what's MMO-Champs current consensus on what 10.2.6 is?



To me it sounds like something that any player can participate in (Classic or Retail), but given the flag only appears on the Retail roadmap and is not indicated in Classic (either in visual form or as a patch number for Classic): I think its something for the old world of Retail - that way anyone with an active sub can access it regardless of whether they own DF or not.

Onto the actual content: Holly mentions 'past musings' in the above quote. What really is there that the community has been vocal about? The only thing I can think that has been talked about a lot is player housing. Is there anything else that's been vocalised by the community?

The other possibility that I remembered a few months ago that dataminers found a whole bunch of old classic items making a return, but didn't show where they were earned or dropped from.

Or again, it might be a collaborative project between WoW and Sea of Thieves.. all those emojis (including the Chicken and Drumstick) are stuff from Sea of Thieves.

[Viridiel]

The other possibility that I remembered a few months ago that dataminers found a whole bunch of old classic items making a return, but didn't show where they were earned or dropped from.

Or again, it might be a collaborative project between WoW and Sea of Thieves.. all those emojis (including the Chicken and Drumstick) are stuff from Sea of Thieves.

I don't love the idea of franchise crossovers because they can really cheapen an experience, but it's been done pretty well with Diablo which despite being another Blizzard IP doesn't really have anything aesthetically in common with WoW, so I'm hopeful it could be done without feeling like we're playing Fortnite.

[Woggmer]

I don't love the idea of franchise crossovers because they can really cheapen an experience, but it's been done pretty well with Diablo which despite being another Blizzard IP doesn't really have anything aesthetically in common with WoW, so I'm hopeful it could be done without feeling like we're playing Fortnite.

I figured, but if it is an event that anyone with a WoW account can participate, it might be something to entice Sea of Thieves players to jump over. And they (Sea of Thieves that is) themselves have done a lot of cross IP collaborations with stuff from Xbox and Rareware.. along with the one time they collaborated with Monkey Island.

[Makorus]

Sea of Thieves being a Microsoft IP is actually a very good point.

But realistically, the backlash they will get from it being a crossover would be monumental though.

[Nathanyel]

Or again, it might be a collaborative project between WoW and Sea of Thieves.. all those emojis (including the Chicken and Drumstick) are stuff from Sea of Thieves.

I've seen people think it's references to other pirate-themed things, too, based on those very things. Makes me assume the chicken/drumstick is rather an even older pirate trope.

Tbh a crossover with another game is tricky, unless it's just cosmetics.

[Jolly Roger]

i know its easy to but try not to dwell on the numbers with these early previews. Same went for the talent trees back in DF before launch. The numbers can easily be changed and tuned in either direction. The thing im looking for in these is the design philosophy and how cool / fun it will be, since that is the least likely to change. Numbers can and will change before launch

dont remind me of number tuning

WW tiger statue had so much potential

[Reive]

i feel like next week is going to be another one with no news

[Raetary]

i feel like next week is going to be another one with no news

Well yeah, what news are you expecting?
We know we won't get anything for 10.2.6 until it launches, and alpha isn't happening until after that.

Best you can hope for is another early look at some more hero talents.

[Ersula]

But realistically, the backlash they will get from it being a crossover would be monumental though.

Why? Did people revolt when they did a crossover with Plants vs Zombies?

[Sondrelk]

Why? Did people revolt when they did a crossover with Plants vs Zombies?

That crossover was just a reference in a barely noticeable quest most players didn't know existed. The Sea of Thieves crossover would in his case be massively hyped up by having not only a patch, but a patch the developers have deliberately made exciting by hiding information.

If the patch was originally plainly advertised as a Sea of Thieves crossover then I imagine it would be welcomed more fondly than if we get it now after so much buildup.

[doledippers]

Why? Did people revolt when they did a crossover with Plants vs Zombies?

i have no opinion either way about the sea of thieves thing, but i wouldnt call the plants vs zombies mini game a cross over

[Raetary]

Why? Did people revolt when they did a crossover with Plants vs Zombies?

I really wonder what makes you think that a major marketing stunt, like a crossover event - including cosmetics and additional gameplay elements, as is usual - is comparable to some minor PvZ reference in a remote quest from 14 years ago.

[Ersula]

i have no opinion either way about the sea of thieves thing, but i wouldnt call the plants vs zombies mini game a cross over

Which is why I'm still suspicious if it has anything to do with Sea of Thieves. Does SoT have any unique branding that would even indicate to people who haven't played it that anything they do in WoW is in fact, a crossover promotion? They definitely not going to invent an entire sailing mechanic to resemble anything in that game.

That crossover was just a reference in a barely noticeable quest most players didn't know existed. The Sea of Thieves crossover would in his case be massively hyped up by having not only a patch, but a patch the developers have deliberately made exciting by hiding information.

If the patch was originally plainly advertised as a Sea of Thieves crossover then I imagine it would be welcomed more fondly than if we get it now after so much buildup.

At the time that branded sunflower pet received more hype from the community than anything else in Cataclysm.

I really wonder what makes you think that a major marketing stunt, like a crossover event - including cosmetics and additional gameplay elements, as is usual - is comparable to some minor PvZ reference in a remote quest from 14 years ago.

Why are you assuming it would be that? What would that even look like? There aren't even any iconic SoT characters because everything in the game is randomly generated. (Oh my god it's SHARON NOLASTNAME ICONIC SHOPKEEPER FROM THE FRANCISE SEA OF THEIVES) Is this going to be like PUBG trying to trademark a frying pan?

Even if it is a Sea of Thieves crossover it's just going to be a island expedition rehash or a pirate reskin of Azerothian archives aka proto-delves.

[Nymrohd]

Best you can hope for is another early look at some more hero talents.

That's good enough for me, they are getting tons of feedback on those so the sooner we see the concepts, the better.