The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dracullus]

"(Article) A Look Ahead from the World of Warcraft Team"

So looks like 2024 roadmap is tomorrow.

[Throren]

didnt expect any new War Within info before christmas but hey!

previews of the San'layn, Chronowarden, Lightsmith and Mountain Thane hero specs


https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com...oKMUZthyxIZ4IQ

[Valysar]

And they're starting to show us some talents trees from TWW, things are gonna speed up a bit after the holidays

[Cheezits]

Roadmap tomorrow?

(Article) A Look Ahead from the World of Warcraft Team

[Murlocos]

Very curious to see how far ahead content will be firmly set in stone. The first roadmap had specific details up through 10.0.7, with 10.1 onwards having more general descriptions. I'm guessing that the rest of DF's patches will be detailed given they're all minor patches, but moreso curious if anything with 11.0's release date becomes more specific, including if they indicate 11.0.5 will be in 2024.

[Kiivar86]

Interesting that the Lightsmith paladin gets weapon imbues. The holy armaments seems neat too though it requires other players to grab them, so that could be lost in the shuffle, I feel.

Feels kinda like Lightsmith is support-y to me.

[Makabreska]

Interesting that the Lightsmith paladin gets weapon imbues. The holy armaments seems neat too though it requires other players to grab them, so that could be lost in the shuffle, I feel.

Feels kinda like Lightsmith is support-y to me.

Yes, it becomes a soft support spec. Maybe this is de wei when it comes to supp specs?

[Kiivar86]

Yes, it becomes a soft support spec. Maybe this is de wei when it comes to supp specs?

Would be easier than just up and changing a whole spec to it, I suppose. Will need to see with other hero talents if the same happens.

[Ersula]

Yes, it becomes a soft support spec. Maybe this is de wei when it comes to supp specs?

It seems more group damage mitigation than actual bonus damage, so for Holy & Protection, it's just more of what they already do. I have to assume the trees that straddle dps/heals will have to be about survivability & will ultimately be meta relegated to pvp.

[Makabreska]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/all-4-n...wowhead-336818

Better view of revealed talents.

[Merryck]

I thought Lightsmith would be Draenei themed.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I thought Lightsmith would be Draenei themed.

It kinda is no? The light forged are the only ones to use weapons and shields made of pure light as far as I can recall.

[Makabreska]

Hero talents interviews are coming up:

https://www.wowhead.com/news/sanlayn...-unholy-336824
https://www.wowhead.com/news/chronow...ion-and-336813

[Ersula]

I was just talking with a friend how Deathbringer will probably have Blood Beasts, because that was Deathbringer Saurfang's whole gimmick.... and it turns out that an entirely different tree gets Blood Beasts. So what the heck is Deathbringer based on? That's like if the Farseer Tree being about Totems instead of Totemic.

[Murlocos]

I'm hoping that the continued public confusion over hero talents being a strictly gameplay-oriented feature and not intended to have any overlap with the idea of spell cosmetics is sending the message to Blizzard that they'd be remiss to continue pushing back against the idea.

[Kiivar86]

The light armaments thing are picked up by walking over them so that's helpful at least.

[doledippers]

I'm hoping that the continued public confusion over hero talents being a strictly gameplay-oriented feature and not intended to have any overlap with the idea of spell cosmetics is sending the message to Blizzard that they'd be remiss to continue pushing back against the idea.

i dont disagree, but it risks running the issue they had with covenants (one of many, lol) where you might aesthetically want to go with say Venthyr but the Necrolord is better for performance in X content. If they can find a way to strike a good balance then yeah I think having some class fantasy options on top of the gameplay options would be ideal for hero specs

[Murlocos]

i dont disagree, but it risks running the issue they had with covenants (one of many, lol) where you might aesthetically want to go with say Venthyr but the Necrolord is better for performance in X content. If they can find a way to strike a good balance then yeah I think having some class fantasy options on top of the gameplay options would be ideal for hero specs

Oh no, class cosmetics should be something entirely separate and not tied to any power. It's just a concept they seem to have an internal philosophy against as recently as 10.1.5.

[doledippers]

Oh no, class cosmetics should be something entirely separate and not tied to any power. It's just a concept they seem to have an internal philosophy against as recently as 10.1.5.

ah i see what u mean, thought you were saying that the hero specs should offer those customization/cosmetics. Like dark ranger makes your spells dark ranger-y, lol. But yeah in that case i see no reason why they shouldnt.

[Eurhetemec]

There is literally no reason why DH's should stay only locked to two races, especially with Midnight coming up, which may be enough of a tread for the Illidari to finally recruit other races to their cause. There is already a human dh in lore, and Earthen can become DK's too, so the "hero class" argument isn't holding up.

Evoker though will prolly stay Dracthyr only, but I could see Blizzard opening up the visages to other races as a compromise.

Who is the human DH? I ask because I'm not aware of that lore and I'm not finding it with Google.

Earthen becoming DKs will presumably use the same logic as other Allied Race DKs - i.e. the now-established lore that the current LK is making new DKs occasionally. So there's no issue there.

I don't see the logic behind Midnight opening up DHes. Midnight will presumably be about Shadow, mainly. If it's also significantly about the Burning Legion or some new demon group equivalent to the Burning Legion, sure, that would make sense, but DHes are a response to demons/the Fel, not Shadow or just "threats" in general. It look the Legion re-invading Azeroth to even get the ones already existing to be activated, let alone new ones being created.