The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Raetary]

Only way I could see Oracle be solid is if it was NOT RNG. Premonition after all says "Divine". Maybe it will have some priority system?

Currently watching Taliesens interview.
Apparently, it's only slightly rng?

Basically, you press the button and then it randomly chooses a spell, and then cycles through each spell for a period of time.
(insight->glory->solace->insight-> etc.)
So you do choose the spell that you want to apply, and it works with Twins.

I dunno, it feels a bit convoluted to me.
I'm not a big fan of the whole "fish for the right buff" idea, if you miss your wanted spell, you gotta wait the whole 3-5 seconds to have another attempt at casting the right spell again.
Or god forbid you press it a quarter of a second too late/early, and you apply a useless buff to a party member that is topped/has mana/doesn't use physical or magic damage.

Seems like something that can be pretty easy to fuck up and can end up being quite frustrating.

[Lady Atia]

Control of the Dream is an amazing talent. I'd want it for every healer.
Also I was right that Dark Ranger would be BM/MM. Undead looking beasts are more thematic than melee Dark Rangers (especially if they don't finally add DW to Surv)

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Only way I could see Oracle be solid is if it was NOT RNG. Premonition after all says "Divine". Maybe it will have some priority system?

Yep we won the dark ranger battle haha. Soooo happy right now since both my main chars got their hero specs (dark ranger for my bm and scalecommander for my aug).

[Nymrohd]

The fact that a healer having a buff suddenly makes them a support spec as if healers did not have multiple buffs spells in every single iteration of the game makes me doubt some people have basic intelligence. Or they are just that clickbaity morons.

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Basically, you press the button and then it randomly chooses a spell, and then cycles through each spell for a period of time.
(insight->glory->solace->insight-> etc.)
So you do choose the spell that you want to apply, and it works with Twins.

I wonder how they will keep that from simply being resolved by macro or WA
Clairvoyance sounds insanely OP and would have to be nerfed imo.

[Nightshade711]

I’m probably just huffing hopium but I hope that 10.2.6 is going to give surprise class expansions to Druids & Shamans.

Story wise they both fit perfectly with being expanded in Dragonflight

[Scyth]

Frostfire looks good so far, can't wait to try it! Poor Priests though lol although if feedback is overwhelmingly negative their tree might get changed.

[Alanar]

Control of the Dream is an amazing talent. I'd want it for every healer.
Also I was right that Dark Ranger would be BM/MM. Undead looking beasts are more thematic than melee Dark Rangers (especially if they don't finally add DW to Surv)

Yea, still don't quite agree with that. I think surv/mm would have been thematically more fitting tbh.
You can still keep the Darkhounds vibe with surv, but also lean into the melee aspect, mm already does the other part. As an extra it would also be a fitting way to add DW as well. Imo Nathanos is literally a dark surv hunter with extras.

We had multiple cinematics and Dark rangers in general use one handed swords or daggers or axe in Nathanos case. We had one scenario of Nathanos having undead beasts. It's hardly the first thing you think about, when thinking about dark rangers, but hey most of this stuff was predicted as you said. Especially Blackarrow being the keystone. I wasn't expecting much, but at least it's cool to have black arrow back.

[Makorus]

Dark Rangers has always been a "pet class" since WC3.

You had both charm and Dark Arrows creating skeletons.

[Ersula]

Dark Rangers has always been a "pet class" since WC3.

You had both charm and Dark Arrows creating skeletons.

I do think they created a nice amalgam of Sylvanas in wc3, Nathanos & Sylvanas in Hots with the Dark Ranger hero tree. Good job.

Yea, still don't quite agree with that. I think surv/mm would have been thematically more fitting tbh.
You can still keep the Darkhounds vibe with surv, but also lean into the melee aspect, mm already does the other part. As an extra it would also be a fitting way to add DW as well. Imo Nathanos is literally a dark surv hunter with extras.

We had multiple cinematics and Dark rangers in general use one handed swords or daggers or axe in Nathanos case.

There has been two, and its the cinematic where Nathanos got his head cut off. And the one where Sylvanas fights Saurfang & she still one-shots him with a ranged attack. Disregard melee dark ranger.

Currently watching Taliesens interview.
Apparently, it's only slightly rng?

Basically, you press the button and then it randomly chooses a spell, and then cycles through each spell for a period of time.
(insight->glory->solace->insight-> etc.)
So you do choose the spell that you want to apply, and it works with Twins.

It's just like how Prescience works with Augmentation evoker, you *can* manually use it, but you have to use it so rapidly that's impractical & letting the game pick the target is what everyone does.

[Makorus]

I do think they created a nice amalgam of Sylvanas in wc3, Nathanos & Sylvanas in Hots with the Dark Ranger hero tree. Good job.There has been two, and its the cinematic where Nathanos got his head cut off. And the one where Sylvanas fights Saurfang & she still one-shots him with a ranged attack. Disregard melee dark ranger.
It's just like how Prescience works with Augmentation evoker, you *can* manually use it, but you have to use it so rapidly that's impractical & letting the game pick the target is what everyone does.

That is definitely not how Prescience works for Augmentation lmao.

[Pyrophax]

I do think they created a nice amalgam of Sylvanas in wc3, Nathanos & Sylvanas in Hots with the Dark Ranger hero tree. Good job.

And any dark ranger characters - wield single melee weapon or pair. What fantasy is that? Where in BM and MM trees dual melee weapons?
Another reason to give SV ability to wield duals.

There has been two, and its the cinematic where Nathanos got his head cut off. And the one where Sylvanas fights Saurfang & she still one-shots him with a ranged attack. Disregard melee dark ranger.

With magic, remind you. Not enchanted arrow. Some Kamehameha move.

[Sondrelk]

That is definitely not how Prescience works for Augmentation lmao.

It's how it works when I play it. Going full spreadsheet and picking specific players is a hassle, especially in raids. Much easier to just go autopilot and play a class that is fun in M+.

[Teriz]

I can see with these new hero talents an option for healers to spec into a support, instead of having a fully devoted spec. Aug Evoker rework incoming?

Doubt it, since the very name of the spec revolves around boosting other players.

[Makorus]

It's how it works when I play it. Going full spreadsheet and picking specific players is a hassle, especially in raids. Much easier to just go autopilot and play a class that is fun in M+.

I mean, there is a middle ground between going full hardcore and using WoWanalyzer to show you the ideal person for every single prescience cast and just hitting the ability willy-nilly and letting it go on whoever.

Even consistently putting it on the same 4 all-arounders is better than just hitting it. It's definitely not a case of "letting the game pick the target is what everyone does."

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Doubt it, since the very name of the spec revolves around boosting other players.

Just like Enhancement, yeah?

[Teriz]

Just like Enhancement, yeah?

Fair point, but you could argue that Enhancement is enhancing the Shaman.

[Makorus]

Fair point, but you could argue that Enhancement is enhancing the Shaman.

And you could argue that Augmentation is augmenting the Evoker.

Personally, I don't think they are gonna make Aug not be Support, but the spec name is not gonna be the make or break here.

[Teriz]

And you could argue that Augmentation is augmenting the Evoker.

Personally, I don't think they are gonna make Aug not be Support, but the spec name is not gonna be the make or break here.

True. So do you think they'll make Augmentation straight DPS with some support elements like Enhancement, and more the stronger support attributes to the Scalecommander hero tree?

[Cheezits]

Kind of a late thought, but maybe the event is Night Elf themed?

Bel'ameth would be absent, as it is locked to Dragonflight, but they put a lot of portals there to connect to Nelf settlements throughout Cata. And they have shown a tree as one of the icons they are using to hint 10.2.6.

"Based on past musings from the community" could relate to the constant social media debates about the state of Night Elves and their empire.

[doledippers]

Kind of a late thought, but maybe the event is Night Elf themed?

Bel'ameth would be absent, as it is locked to Dragonflight, but they put a lot of portals there to connect to Nelf settlements throughout Cata. And they have shown a tree as one of the icons they are using to hint 10.2.6.

"Based on past musings from the community" could relate to the constant social media debates about the state of Night Elves and their empire.

please no, im sick of night elves D:

[Lady Atia]

Kind of a late thought, but maybe the event is Night Elf themed?

Bel'ameth would be absent, as it is locked to Dragonflight, but they put a lot of portals there to connect to Nelf settlements throughout Cata. And they have shown a tree as one of the icons they are using to hint 10.2.6.

"Based on past musings from the community" could relate to the constant social media debates about the state of Night Elves and their empire.

Well, the Nightsquall is a night elf after all :P

[micwini]

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