The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

With that mentioned, is the promo event starting this week? I want to level some more alts.

[Makorus]

With that mentioned, is the promo event starting this week? I want to level some more alts.

The first part is starting next week. Unsure if that is gonna have the Exp/Rep Buff though.

[Makabreska]

Megadungeon skybox:



https://www.wowhead.com/news/skybox-...1-5-ptr-333090

[Teriz]

Again, I don't care if he's right. He derails the thread and you feed him by responding to him while knowingly ignoring the moderator's recent warning.
This isn't a lore thread outside of the current expansion. This is also a thread of speculation regarding the next expansion and not a debate about who is right about his speculation. If you want to argue, go somewhere else.

Trust me, if I defied Aucald’s warning, he would nail me for it. He always does.

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Megadungeon skybox:



https://www.wowhead.com/news/skybox-...1-5-ptr-333090

Ah, very cool. I’m quite looking forward to this mega dungeon. The Bronze abilities have been my favorite aspect of the Evoker class.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I hope next PTR update will show unique weapon drops or overall mogs from new megadungeon, if Gorehowl is not there i will babyrage.

[Khaza-R]

I hope next PTR update will show unique weapon drops or overall mogs from new megadungeon, if Gorehowl is not there i will babyrage.

If there's Gorehowl, I wonder if they would make an HD version Ashkandi drop from Lothar.

Scourge tabard looks amazing btw.

[huth]

Tbf here, he did some SOME build up throughout Legion and BFA, even if very little. And they at least tried to give him some lore and whatnot, so I'll give em that.

I wouldn't even count Legion, as it does not characterise him in any relevant manner. Only shows that there is something there. SL... well, they could still do it in DF.

On that note, all of the major DF villains were only introduced in DF.

So ultimately, the claim that it is somehow necessary for the story to already be established is false.

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If there's Gorehowl, I wonder if they would make an HD version Ashkandi drop from Lothar.

Scourge tabard looks amazing btw.

Ashkandur pretty much is an HD Ashkandi.

[lanerios]

The bigger point is that its another thing you said wouldn't happen, yet it happened.

A new class in 11.0? Never say never.

Just like you said Tinker would be next, because it was a WC3 hero class. Then because it was a HOTS class, then quickly changed to Evoker when the leaks become more real?

Or that the Evoker would 100% be a tank spec, and would 100% be based on 1 NPC

Then quickly changed to support spec, and suddenly started claiming you never said it would be a tank spec?

Just saying that this is a real case of pot calling the kettle black. Don't attack others on stuff you do yourself all the time.

And please no. Not Ultron level of villain in the next expansion, then we might as well just get the Jailer back. What the MCU did to Ultron/Scarlet Witch is absolutely horrendous. And sadly makes sense because it appeals to a wider audience.

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I hope next PTR update will show unique weapon drops or overall mogs from new megadungeon, if Gorehowl is not there i will babyrage.

I agree, the weapon looks from the Taz dungeon were really cool as well. If they put the same amount of effort in, I'll be really happy.

[Teriz]

Just like you said Tinker would be next, because it was a WC3 hero class. Then because it was a HOTS class, then quickly changed to Evoker when the leaks become more real?

Ah yes, claims I made eight years ago versus claims you and Nightshade made a little over 8 days ago....

Or that the Evoker would 100% be a tank spec, and would 100% be based on 1 NPC

Please find the quote in that exhaustive thread where I said it was going to be "100% a tank spec". The link is in my sig.

Then quickly changed to support spec, and suddenly started claiming you never said it would be a tank spec?

And again, please find the quote where I stated that I never claimed it was going to be a tank spec. I have no issue with being incorrect about believing the 3rd spec could possibly be a tank spec.

Just saying that this is a real case of pot calling the kettle black.

Not even close.

And please no. Not Ultron level of villain in the next expansion, then we might as well just get the Jailer back. What the MCU did to Ultron/Scarlet Witch is absolutely horrendous. And sadly makes sense because it appeals to a wider audience.

The point being is that we've never had a mechanical antagonist. Mechanical antagonists are quite popular in media so it would make sense for WoW to follow suit, since it tends to follow popular media trends. I have no idea why you would bring up Scarlet Witch or the MCU. You would utilize a mechanical threat for an Undermine expansion which in turn could justify the introduction of a Tinker class.

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So ultimately, the claim that it is somehow necessary for the story to already be established is false.

Quite true. Thankfully I never made such a claim.

[lanerios]

To get back on topic;

What I hope to see in 11.0 is a more down to earth expansion. Not a huge evil to fight, just trying to fix issues that have risen up while we were fighting the Jailer/Primals/Whatever happens for the rest of this expansion.

Things like a resurgence of the Scarlets would be cool
Maybe a goblin situation with a new tradeprince rivalry
The Nelves getting a new tree with all the issues that arise from that
The new undead council leadership
etc

And ofcourse not all of them need a raid/dungeon resolution, but still would be cool to see.

[Teriz]

Yea, I am done with Teriz. This is just getting exhausting. The usual drivel of "I never said anything false. I will never admit to it!" Even though he was shortly before the leaks of Evoker proudly proclaiming Tinker would be next because of HOTS.

Check your facts please. I haven't made a Tinker class thread since 2018. Meanwhile, I created three threads in regards to a dragon class where the class is a race/class combination, utilizes the 5 aspects, and has visage forms. The earliest was in 2019, before the announcement of Shadowlands;

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...9-(long)/page3
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...s-Concept-2022
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-(Speculation)

Kinda sad that he derails every thread like that. Even though we already have 20+ threads to befoul with the "Look at how right i was" levels of weirdness.

Kind of sad that you derail the thread, blame me, and then quickly exit once I prove your accusations wrong.

[Nightshade711]

To get back on topic;

What I hope to see in 11.0 is a more down to earth expansion. Not a huge evil to fight, just trying to fix issues that have risen up while we were fighting the Jailer/Primals/Whatever happens for the rest of this expansion.

Things like a resurgence of the Scarlets would be cool
Maybe a goblin situation with a new tradeprince rivalry
The Nelves getting a new tree with all the issues that arise from that
The new undead council leadership
etc

And ofcourse not all of them need a raid/dungeon resolution, but still would be cool to see.

I do think that another ground to earth “return to home” expansion would be really nice for a 20th anniversary expansion. Then they could revamp the old world for max level content, while keeping the cata zones around using Zidormi/Chromie time.
Will it happen? Probably not.

Unfortunately I’m expecting it to be another huge cosmic “light vs void” expansion involving races like the Ethereals, mainly because of Ion’s hints to them and their history with the void… and all the new stuff with the “cosmic void”

Though if blizzard wanted they COULD still make an expansion like that a little more “grounded”
It could have reformed scarlet crusade could definitely happen on the “light” side of that expansion.
With one of the factions of Ethereals being on the “Void” side.

[Black Rider]

What do you think about getting another megadungeon in this xpac?

[Raetary]

What do you think about getting another megadungeon in this xpac?

The more dungeons the better.

But i doubt we are gonna get any.

[Nightshade711]

What do you think about getting another megadungeon in this xpac?

I’d definitely like more dungeons tbh.
M+ is a big part of the game now and I think they could absolutely jam out at least one new dungeon for each tier like the raids.
(Doesn’t even have to me a ‘mega dungeon’)

[micwini]

I would like them to add 3-4 regular dungeons during some patches. The format of when/how they release dungeons these last few expacs has been way to formulaic. Surprise us with 3 separate dungeons in 10.4 or something

[Makabreska]

I would like them to add 3-4 regular dungeons during some patches. The format of when/how they release dungeons these last few expacs has been way to formulaic. Surprise us with 3 separate dungeons in 10.4 or something

No point for them in releasing more dungeons beside a megadungeon, when they are now using entire dungeon pool from 4 previous expacs. Also, with how fast they are releasing content, I doubt they could suddenly create extra 3-4 new dungeons.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Instead of new dungeons i would prefer some 1 boss raids, like we had in the past.

[Black Rider]

I’d definitely like more dungeons tbh.
M+ is a big part of the game now and I think they could absolutely jam out at least one new dungeon for each tier like the raids.
(Doesn’t even have to me a ‘mega dungeon’)

Yes!
I think I lot will be revealed during Blizzcon.
If there will be Season 4 for DF.

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I would like them to add 3-4 regular dungeons during some patches. The format of when/how they release dungeons these last few expacs has been way to formulaic. Surprise us with 3 separate dungeons in 10.4 or something

Well, not all brand new, redesigned old ones will be fun too.
AKA. Zul'Gurub, Zul'Aman, Zul'Farrak.
Some old classic ones could use some love.

[Nymrohd]

Yes!
I think I lot will be revealed during Blizzcon.
If there will be Season 4 for DF.

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Well, not all brand new, redesigned old ones will be fun too.
AKA. Zul'Gurub, Zul'Aman, Zul'Farrak.
Some old classic ones could use some love.

Would be ok if they could update them visually.