The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Darkarath]

Blizzard doesn't really do solo. The last time they released content intended for solo play was Starcraft II's campaigns a decade ago now. They're all in on multiplayer.

And, IF they were going to make solo content, I'd much rather they build an actual game intended for that purpose. Rather than take a hacksaw to WoW to try and turn it into the sort of single-player RPG that it's, IMO, always been rather terrible as.

I'd personally love them to make a game like that, by the way. Imagine a turn-based RPG in the Warcraft world. A shooter or a tactical, XCOM-eque game set in Starcraft. A horror game set in Diablo. Or hell just try their hand at an RTS with a great campaign again like in ye olden days. They have such strong IPs that the possibilities are endless. But I strongly doubt any of those will ever come to pass, sadly.

But Blizzard does solo as a service with multiplayer elements. Of course, I would also prefer a proper solo game in the Warcraft universe, but that is not happening.

Nevertheless, I am pretty sure that Microsoft will make them exploit the franchise with new games. It is insane that Blizzard has not expanded the Warcraft universe with more games besides HS and Warcraft Rumble. My bet is that by the time that the Worldsoul Saga is done a new Warcraft game will be almost ready for launch.

A Warcraft Genshin Impact will be an instant mega success. I think that Blizzard never really considered it an option because Genshin content updates will make them look like fools. They have no chance of following that cadence.

[Woggmer]

Blizzard doesn't really do solo. The last time they released content intended for solo play was Starcraft II's campaigns a decade ago now. They're all in on multiplayer.

And, IF they were going to make solo content, I'd much rather they build an actual game intended for that purpose. Rather than take a hacksaw to WoW to try and turn it into the sort of single-player RPG that it's, IMO, always been rather terrible as.

I'd personally love them to make a game like that, by the way. Imagine a turn-based RPG in the Warcraft world. A shooter or a tactical, XCOM-eque game set in Starcraft. A horror game set in Diablo. Or hell just try their hand at an RTS with a great campaign again like in ye olden days. They have such strong IPs that the possibilities are endless. But I strongly doubt any of those will ever come to pass, sadly.

They've done solo content in WoW before, especially now with AI followers, Torghast (despite its purpose being to get material for legendaries instead of gear), and now with Delves coming in.

You're also giving Blizzard too much credit to what they can do with those IPs, it'd be better to just have other developer studios take those IPs and make something new and fresh with them while still keeping it to the original source material, aka like what they do with Final Fantasy off-shoot games or Warhammer games (some successful and some less than successful.) They can't even go back to their RTS roots because they got rid of their RTS team after what happened to Warcraft 3 Reforged... and without Activision's grip that made many of the old team that left probably all moved on to their own projects or just retired.

Since Warcraft (the franchise/IP) is owned by Microsoft now, they can assign other dev teams to do something with it. Just like how they got different teams to work on a new Battletoads game or a new Killer Instinct if Rareware wasn't going to budge.

[Scyth]

Turalyon fought a thousand year war with X'era who likely saved him many, many times and Illidan showed up and killed her after she risked everything to get him there.
He is also the person who then realized there is still a war to fight and continued on fighting alongside Illidan for the rest of the Argus campaign. The one who cared more for his wife who had disappeared for a very long time only to come back attuned to the void then what the Light compels and argued with X'era for her. Turalyon WOULD go potential villain; he'd do it for his wife and son. Not for the Light.

He also stood and did nothing whilst X'era was forcefully about to change someone. Imo they did very well in that scene in showing how blinded he is by the Light.
Don't know whether that means he can be a villain though. Alleria has a bigger chance of becoming that lol

[Jastall]

They've done solo content in WoW before, especially now with AI followers, Torghast (despite its purpose being to get material for legendaries instead of gear), and now with Delves coming in.

You're also giving Blizzard too much credit to what they can do with those IPs, it'd be better to just have other developer studios take those IPs and make something new and fresh with them while still keeping it to the original source material, aka like what they do with Final Fantasy off-shoot games or Warhammer games (some successful and some less than successful.) They can't even go back to their RTS roots because they got rid of their RTS team after what happened to Warcraft 3 Reforged... and without Activision's grip that made many of the old team that left probably all moved on to their own projects or just retired.

Since Warcraft (the franchise/IP) is owned by Microsoft now, they can assign other dev teams to do something with it. Just like how they got different teams to work on a new Battletoads game or a new Killer Instinct if Rareware wasn't going to budge.

Solo content, to me, isn't the same thing an any actual solo mode. The game's had solo content since its inception, hell that was a major advantage WoW had over MMOs like Everquest. A solo mode would need a whole bunch of adjustments to not just be a really bad RPG.

But yes, you're probably right that other studios would have to leverage those IPs. Will it happen? Who knows, Blizzard might be protective internally and successfully argue that to be unnecessary. Microsoft might not see the potential we see. But if single-player games using Blizzard IPs happen they would probably be made by other studios indeed. And then they stop being truly Blizzard IPs, which would mark the end of an era for sure. But if it means good games set in the Warcraft or Starcraft universes, I'd be glad for the sacrifice to be made.

[Woggmer]

He also stood and did nothing whilst X'era was forcefully about to change someone. Imo they did very well in that scene in showing how blinded he is by the Light.
Don't know whether that means he can be a villain though. Alleria has a bigger chance of becoming that lol

Exactly, but the only reason why I don't think Alleria will turn evil is because of the horrific visions scenario, where Turalyon died to Alleria at the steps of the Cathedral and she became the "final boss" of that scenario.
Horrific visions aren't meant to be a prophecy of whats to come, but rather a possibility of what could happen if N'zoth succeeded. With Xal'atath on board now, she'll act as Alleria's opposite to gain more power and do where N'zoth failed. If Midnight is where we will deal with the Void "for good" then Turalyon and the forces of the Light will not have anything to hold back.

[Enrif]

So, Anduin MC'd and turned into a boss again? Not very appealing, especially considering he is already plenty damaged by SL events.

No, i don't think these three will be bosses. I mean they fall to the void, and get moved away, we will fight the other bosses of TWW and see the three again in Midnight. Not necessary as bosses.

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that would actually be great, but anduin already had his "dark" moment. next expansion is about finding himself again

Here i can see the difference between darkness forced upon him (domination), and accepting his own darkness to do good. This is a common theme for dark power users in other media. Using the darkness for the good instead of succumbing to the darkness.

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You're forgetting Gazlowe. If that short story is anything to go by, he's going to be a major character in TWW as well. It would fit too, since it would be two alliance and two horde characters. For whatever reason, Blizzard is hiding Gazlowe's new look.

Gazlowe has no association with void or shadow in any way. He doesn't fit here, and he is not a cover character.

[Makabreska]

No, i don't think these three will be bosses. I mean they fall to the void, and get moved away, we will fight the other bosses of TWW and see the three again in Midnight. Not necessary as bosses.

It's still weak. Anduin just got out of a very traumatising mind control in SL and is now coping with PTSD. Him getting under another influence would cheapen all of it and made him look pretty laughable, as being a constant puppet of the enemy.

[Enrif]

It's still weak. Anduin just got out of a very traumatising mind control in SL and is now coping with PTSD. Him getting under another influence would cheapen all of it and made him look pretty laughable, as being a constant puppet of the enemy.

That depends. Alleria and Thrall could be taken control off, while perhaps Anduin, due to his ordeals has some resistance but still get's along to keep Alleria and Thrall safe. And then in Midnight he could be the "inside" guy for the players to get information's.

[Cherry123]

It will be sad if we get alpha in the last days of May. This means that we will get everything at the very end.

Although I'm already a little upset because there’s nothing interesting besides Hallowfall.

[Dracullus]

It will be sad if we get alpha in the last days of May. This means that we will get everything at the very end.

Although I'm already a little upset because there’s nothing interesting besides Hallowfall.

It would be sad it Alpha launches on August too, thankfully Alpha is scheduled for early Spring not May or August.

[Makorus]

It will be sad if we get alpha in the last days of May. This means that we will get everything at the very end.

Although I'm already a little upset because there’s nothing interesting besides Hallowfall.

Okay?

Who said we are getting Alpha in May?

Alpha is gonna come out shortly after 10.2.6.

[Woggmer]

It would be sad it Alpha launches on August too, thankfully Alpha is scheduled for early Spring not May or August.

The game is supposed to launch at that month according to their roadmap. They're looking for a late Summer or Early Fall release.

[Worldshaper]

Next week is going to be awesome, I hope.

Once the Alpha does drop within 2-3 weeks or so, what unannounced features do you think we'll see?

I hope we get a few spec revamps, class/race combos, and maybe finally some additional character customisation.

It's absolutely nuts if they don't show Void Elves some love in the expansion where we chase Xal'atath (effectively a Void Elf appearance-wise) alongside Alleria the "Void Hunter".

[doledippers]

Next week is going to be awesome, I hope.

im betting 10.2.6 drops on the 19th, so im thinking either news next week, or the following week

[Dancaris]

Enough with the villain-batting of historic Alliance leaders.

Archbishop Benedictus, Fandral Staghelm, and now this?

Enough.

Nope, we actually need more alliance villains.

[Worldshaper]

im betting 10.2.6 drops on the 19th, so im thinking either news next week, or the following week

It's possible they use the Hearthstone event to buy themselves some time, yeah. Would be a bit messy to have two "special events" running simultaneously.

The HS event is listed as a 10.2.5 feature, too.

[Varodoc]

Nope, we actually need more alliance villains.

So you're going full mask-off, huh? You are no longer even pretending that you care about WC3 HoNoRaBlE Horde anymore? You just admit, full mask-off, that you want the Alliance destroyed?

Not surprised. You are all the same. Outwardly you pretend like you want the WC3 Honorable Horde, but in reality you want the Alliance to be destroyed.

[Dancaris]

So you're going full mask-off, huh? You are no longer even pretending that you care about WC3 HoNoRaBlE Horde anymore? You just admit, full mask-off, that you want the Alliance destroyed?

Not surprised. You are all the same. Outwardly you pretend like you want the WC3 Honorable Horde, but in reality you want the Alliance to be destroyed.

When I said that? That AlLiAnCe DeStrOeD?
I only said that Alliance need more villians to not feeling that goody good and being so boring as they are now. And to match Horde in that.
Horde didn't destroyed when leaders and minor characters villian-bated at masse, Alliance is save too. And your point that 2 characters (minor ones) got villian-bated is hilarious when you compare it with number of Horde ones.

And for your first part - its you who going full mask-off as Alliance hard fan. Neutrality my ass.

You are all the same

Generalization as your best friend fail you this time also.

[Makabreska]

I wouldn't say it's laughable. Not everyone has the same mental fortitude as the players, sadly...

What are you on about? I'm talking about him being MCed back to back, not about his legit trauma.

[Varodoc]

When I said that? That AlLiAnCe DeStrOeD?
I only said that Alliance need more villians to not feeling that goody good and being so boring as they are now. And to match Horde in that.
Horde didn't destroyed when leaders and minor characters villian-bated at masse, Alliance is save too. And your point that 2 characters (minor ones) got villian-bated is hilarious when you compare it with number of Horde ones.

And for your first part - its you who going full mask-off as Alliance hard fan. Neutrality my ass.


Generalization as your best friend fail you this time also.

No one picked the Alliance to be the Bad Guy.

No one playing the Alliance is interested in being the Bad Guy.

If you want to be the Bad Guy, you don't pick this faction:






Literally no one who is a true Alliance fan wants to be the Bad Guy, or they would not have chosen the Alliance in the first place.

Enough said.