The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Merryck]

Wild guess that we’re revisiting the vrykul blood curse in the form of Nightsquall. I haven’t forgotten about that vampire survivors game mode that was datamined a while back.

That vampire Vrykul rare from Legion?

[Enrif]

That vampire Vrykul rare from Legion?

Not a rare, but from a sidequest
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Blood-Thane_Lucard

Fun bit i found on the warcraft wiki page about vampire in WoW
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Vampire

This ancient vampyr, Blood-Thane Lucard, was killed by an order champion, though Mrrgglton had his doubts as to whether vampyr can truly die

The vrykul of Northrend were initially described as vampiric by Chris Metzen at BlizzCon 2007, but this aspect was seemingly scrapped before the release of Wrath of the Lich King.

[Zardas]

Wild guess that we’re revisiting the vrykul blood curse in the form of Nightsquall. I haven’t forgotten about that vampire survivors game mode that was datamined a while back.

A vampire survivor game mode doesn't need vampire. We just call it that way because it is the first to have a huge success. In fact, the best of them is not vampire-themed.

Although I wouldn't mind some vrykul love.

[Ersula]

Not a rare, but from a sidequest
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Blood-Thane_Lucard

Fun bit i found on the warcraft wiki page about vampire in WoW
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Vampire

That makes these pirate vrykul extra mysterious. I guess they would have to be analogs of Death Knights, or they practice blood magic.

[Enrif]

That makes these pirate vrykul extra mysterious. I guess they would have to be analogs of Death Knights, or they practice blood magic.

idea: what if they are the heretics from avaloren? blood magic practicing vampire vrykul pirates?

Edit: Or in short: Vampire Vrykul Vikings! V3!

[milkmustache]

A vampire survivor game mode doesn't need vampire. We just call it that way because it is the first to have a huge success. In fact, the best of them is not vampire-themed.

Although I wouldn't mind some vrykul love.

I think the more intriguing tie in here is the fact that the Blood Thane vampyr NPC's victims in this case were none other than the pirates on the coast of Stormheim.

[Cheezits]

Very late realization, but did that "ghostly monster" mount noise ever get used? The one that we thought may be for CE 11.0?

[Enrif]

One more sleep to go before we're free from the nightmare of 10.2.6 and not knowing what the heck is going on in WoW.

*cries in european*

[Trazzle]

I’m hoping that pirates have stumbled across some antiquated titan tech and have repurposed it for raiding and pillaging.

Alerting us, the hero’s, that there’s a new threat/vulnerability to take care of, and many some new tech minded intrepid explorers could make use of an abundance of left over titan tech…

[Usagi Senshi]

*cries in european*

If it makes you feel better, some of us yanks will be away from the pc most of the day and will be reading about it like you will be doing.

[Teriz]

Demon Hunters only having two specs makes them feel like the odd man out now and a relic of Legion's focus on slimming down the classes. Hero talents feels like it may be locking that in; if they added a third spec, it'd also need a new hero talent tree for it and for one of the other specs to swap places with one of their hero trees so every spec has access to two. The workload will be much higher than it is now.

In a similar vein, I think Evokers aren't being released to any other races for a long time, if ever, with the hero trees all placing so much focus on the dracthyr elements and their racials.

Yeah, it’s really interesting that Blizzard couldn’t up with a third spec for Demon Hunters. I thought for sure they would have came up with SOMETHING by this point.

That said, thanks to the hero talents, if Blizzard is bringing in a new spec mid expansion, the only way they can do it is with a new class mid expansion. I will stress that it’s unlikely but not out of the question.

[Cheezits]

Yeah, it’s really interesting that Blizzard couldn’t up with a third spec for Demon Hunters. I thought for sure they would have came up with SOMETHING by this point.

That said, thanks to the hero talents, if Blizzard is bringing in a new spec mid expansion, the only way they can do it is with a new class mid expansion. I will stress that it’s unlikely but not out of the question.

If there is a new support spec it's probably in the Midnight/TLT class and the usual suspects fit the bill (Void/Mechanical both have plenty of ways to do it )

something something voidsong buffs

[Ersula]

I’m hoping that pirates have stumbled across some antiquated titan tech and have repurposed it for raiding and pillaging.

Alerting us, the hero’s, that there’s a new threat/vulnerability to take care of, and many some new tech minded intrepid explorers could make use of an abundance of left over titan tech…

I assume it relates to the promise of "Pirate seeking to plunder the Dragon Isle's bounty" mentioned in the DF reveal that, besides a few generic npcs in the forgotten reach, hasn't showed up yet.

[milkmustache]

If there is a new support spec it's probably in the Midnight/TLT class and the usual suspects fit the bill (Void/Mechanical both have plenty of ways to do it )

something something voidsong buffs

Honestly not a bad idea. Some sort of support spec with the intention of manipulating the Twisting Nether, just as parts of the Legion did. Completes DH specs, fits the xpac and fits the lore of the class.

[Cheezits]

Honestly not a bad idea. Some sort of support spec with the intention of manipulating the Twisting Nether, just as parts of the Legion did. Completes DH specs, fits the xpac and fits the lore of the class.

It would work with DH but I was more thinking the inevitable void class they will introduce to pair against Paladin.

[Teriz]

If there is a new support spec it's probably in the Midnight/TLT class and the usual suspects fit the bill (Void/Mechanical both have plenty of ways to do it )

something something voidsong buffs

I know people are pining for a void class, but I simply don't see it. Gameplay-wise Void simply doesn't separate itself very strongly from Shadow magic in general. Heck, Shadow Priests had to go through multiple iterations before it felt somewhat different from Affliction, and frankly it still struggles with it to this day. An entirely new class utilizing Shadow/Void just doesn't seem feasible given existing gameplay constraints.

It'll be quite interesting to see how Voidweaver and Archon deal with the concept.

[Cheezits]

I know people are pining for a void class, but I simply don't see it. Gameplay-wise Void simply doesn't separate itself very strongly from Shadow magic in general. Heck, Shadow Priests had to go through multiple iterations before it felt somewhat different from Affliction, and frankly it still struggles with it to this day. An entirely new class utilizing Shadow/Void just doesn't seem feasible given existing gameplay constraints.

It'll be quite interesting to see how Voidweaver and Archon deal with the concept.

Only one spec of a one class being tied to an entire magic force in WoW is silly. It's not like Necromancer vs DK, there's no other class or spec that taps into it save for Warlock Voidwalkers. Unless the focus is entirely on a new race in Midnight I expect a new class that uses Sarkareth style void magic.

[Teriz]

Only one spec of a one class being tied to an entire magic force in WoW is silly. It's not like Necromancer vs DK, there's no other class or spec that taps into it save for Warlock Voidwalkers. Unless the focus is entirely on a new race in Midnight I expect a new class that uses Sarkareth style void magic.

Well gameplay-wise, what separates Void from Shadow magic? In other words, what's something cool this Void class could do that Shadow Priests or the other Shadow-based specs can't currently do?

[milkmustache]

Well gameplay-wise, what separates Void from Shadow magic? In other words, what's something cool this Void class could do that Shadow Priests or the other Shadow-based specs can't currently do?

I think that'll be a big distinction they're going to try to make with Midnight. Void magic never felt cooler than the Shadowmoon in WoD. I can't imagine there's not something they can milk out of this newer cosmic emptiness they're giving it.

[Scyth]

Demon Hunters only having two specs makes them feel like the odd man out now and a relic of Legion's focus on slimming down the classes. Hero talents feels like it may be locking that in; if they added a third spec, it'd also need a new hero talent tree for it and for one of the other specs to swap places with one of their hero trees so every spec has access to two. The workload will be much higher than it is now.

In a similar vein, I think Evokers aren't being released to any other races for a long time, if ever, with the hero trees all placing so much focus on the dracthyr elements and their racials.

I genuinely thought DH's would have a 3rd spec by now, probably not happening tbh.

As for Evokers, I don't see them making them available to other races. The easiest thing for them to do is just allow other visages, Belf, Orc etc. Makes so much more sense. Hope they do it asap tbh, I want a different race for my Evoker