The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I'm thinking Vrykul raid instead of Scourge may be a good pivot too.

This would be a really good way to get rid of Oydn as you could just have him try and claim rule over all Vrykul and start acting like a dick like he always does leading to him being killed or relockes in the halls of valour.

[Cheezits]

This would be a really good way to get rid of Oydn as you could just have him try and claim rule over all Vrykul and start acting like a dick like he always does leading to him being killed or relockes in the halls of valour.

Tyr vs Odyn Vrykul civil war maybe?

[Cheezits]

Why do I get the feeling Iridikron is gonna release Chromatus?

Chromatus in Harrowsdeep would be a great first boss.

12.0 - Harrowsdeep Dragonflight callback raid, ends with Chromatus

12.1- Tyr vs Odyn raid, Odyn is keeping us from getting to the Titans. Either he is the final boss or some kind of Titan machine

12.2- Assault on Ulduar

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Tyr vs Odyn Vrykul civil war maybe?

Oh that would be a great way to do things as the Vrykul actually worked with Tyr, but Odyn is the prime god which could lead to a split between real legends and false faith.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Vrykuls become available as new race and their scenario starts with Odyn, eventually ending up with Tyr similar to the Lich king DK scenario.

[doledippers]

i could see iridikron being a penultimate boss in the final raid of the last titan

[Cheezits]

i could see iridikron being a penultimate boss in the final raid of the last titan

Iridikron and Sargeras (or Aman'thul?) back to back would be a hell of a two-punch finale.

[doledippers]

Iridikron and Sargeras (or Aman'thul?) back to back would be a hell of a two-punch finale.

right? imagine its like an ICC lich king type scenario, where iridikron is about to kill us and he gets squashed by <insert titan of choice>, and then we face off against him/her as the final boss

[Nymrohd]

I just want Iridikron to EAT a Titan.

[Cheezits]

Vrykuls become available as new race and their scenario starts with Odyn, eventually ending up with Tyr similar to the Lich king DK scenario.

With both Odyn and Tyr around, and Northrend coming back, there is really no better time to add Vrykul. Its really then or never.

Nerubians, Ethereals, then Vrykul being playable one expansion after another would be cool.

[Worldshaper]

I wanna guess some of the lore in the Worldsoul Saga as well!

Here's an edgy tinfoil edition:

TWW

> Xal'atath causes Midnight by darkening the Light of the worldsoul. It turns out this was the state the Titans once found Azeroth in. Kalimdor = land of eternal starlight.

> We initially thwart her plans by toppling the nerubian stronghold, preventing her from destroying the Arathi or whatever.

> Later, though, in the final raid Uldaz, Xal'atath manages to awaken something. But it's not a dead creature like we had thought. It's us. "All eyes shall open." By triggering Midnight on Azeroth, she makes us all see the truth.

> We get to see a vision of endless armies of Titanforged, bearing down on the aqir like an immense hammer. We see citadels fall, and chains extend around the bodies of the Old Gods. Except, it doesn't stop there. Odyn himself imprisons the worldsoul, placing it in stasis. She is now his to control and protect.

> Odyn is there with us now, we realise. In chains. He is forced to unleash the worldsoul.

> The world darkens. Empress Azshara returns to rule over this darkened Azeroth.

[Sondrelk]

Iridikron as first end boss in his cave, a Scourge side-story for the second and a revamped Ulduar seems like a no-brainer raid structure. Keeps them visually and thematically distinct.

I feel like it will be difficult to say for sure what the setup will be considering we don't know what the patches will look like for TWW. Could be back to full 2 year cadence, could be what we are getting for DF, could be shorter still for the long awaited 1-year expansion.

[Cheezits]

I feel like it will be difficult to say for sure what the setup will be considering we don't know what the patches will look like for TWW. Could be back to full 2 year cadence, could be what we are getting for DF, could be shorter still for the long awaited 1-year expansion.

I think Gazlowe and Hallowsfall points to TWW being three raids instead of two, but that is a good point. We don't know if we are getting three raids or not.

Could be straight from Nerubians to the World Soul/Uldaz.

I think SL/DF points to three raids/four seasons with DFs minor patch structure moving forward.

[milkmustache]

I think Gazlowe and Hallowsfall points to TWW being three raids instead of two, but that is a good point. We don't know if we are getting three raids or not.

Could be straight from Nerubians to the World Soul/Uldaz.

I think SL/DF points to three raids/four seasons with DFs minor patch structure moving forward.

I still wouldn't be surprised if they turn Undermine into a megadungeon, even though I think that'd be a waste.

But Undermine as 11.1 feels totally on the money.

[Cheezits]

I still wouldn't be surprised if they turn Undermine into a megadungeon, even though I think that'd be a waste.

But Undermine as 11.1 feels totally on the money.

Unfortunately it could 100% be just a dungeon. But I think they will include two new zones, and with the Core being one there would have to be some kind of other area.

[Rtrain]

right? imagine its like an ICC lich king type scenario, where iridikron is about to kill us and he gets squashed by <insert titan of choice>, and then we face off against him/her as the final boss

So we get our ass kicked then get saved by someone else to kick our ass

[doledippers]

So we get our ass kicked then get saved by someone else to kick our ass

no no no, we get our asses kicked, and then we get saved by someone who's ass we then proceed to kick

[Zers Editor]

Speaking of Tyr and Odyn, I've had that idea of Alexstrasza getting killed by the latter or one of the Titans during TLT, which would prompt Tyr to join Vyranoth and stand against them.

IMO, these two would make for a great character dynamic and an opportunity to give gravitas to an argument about the required balance between order/control and chaos/freedom.

[huth]

Anarchy is, by definition, a state of disorder where there is no government or law. It may not be Disorder as a whole, but it would reflect the Demons nature the best.

Wrong. It's a state where there is no government. That's it. Disorder is optional. International relations are anarchic.

[Sondrelk]

I still wouldn't be surprised if they turn Undermine into a megadungeon, even though I think that'd be a waste.

But Undermine as 11.1 feels totally on the money.

Gazlowe leading to a goblin themed megadungon is possible, but so is Gazlowe being relevant because goblins have a nunderground city, and are therefore relevant.
We could easily have Hallowfall as the Megadungeon, and whatever is at the end of the coreway as the second and final raid.