The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Reive]

https://twitter.com/BellularGaming/s...07504808362311

apparenty sbellular is going to release some data to prove that wow is back at legion level numbers tomorrow. he also said that retail is well below legion levels and that classic is a large chunk of the playerbase

thoughts? I expect some shady ass numbers and a lot of drama.

[Makabreska]

https://twitter.com/BellularGaming/s...07504808362311

apparenty sbellular is going to release some data to prove that wow is back at legion level numbers tomorrow. he also said that retail is well below legion levels and that classic is a large chunk of the playerbase

thoughts? I expect some shady ass numbers and a lot of drama.

What are we supposed to think, when he didn't post anything yet? And this shit is so vague. Legion numbers from which moment of the expansion? How do we even know Legion numbers in the first place?

Another YouTuber attention grab.

[Reive]

What are we supposed to think, when he didn't post anything yet? And this shit is so vague. Legion numbers from which moment of the expansion, how do we even know Legion numbers in the first place?

idk some speculation/prevision about this "data" he's about to release.

also, he said "peak legion launch numbers" so probably meant the start of the expansion

[Nightshade711]

I don't think I'm alone in saying I would have happily traded Plunderstorm & whatever tf Timerunning is for Tuskarr & Gnoll allied races. And I really like Plunderstorm.

Personally don’t see Gnolls being an AR, don’t think we’ve had any non-hostile gnolls this xpac but I could be wrong.

I’d love to see Drakonid ARs though. Would make sense via the whole Drakonid rebellion storyline & them being granted some more freedom.

[Lady Atia]

Personally don’t see Gnolls being an AR, don’t think we’ve had any non-hostile gnolls this xpac but I could be wrong.

I’d love to see Drakonid ARs though. Would make sense via the whole Drakonid rebellion storyline & them being granted some more freedom.

There are, in fact, neutral gnolls at the end of the Amirdrassil questline who said they would protect the tree against the evil gnoll witch from that Dungeon, if I remember it correctly.

[Valysar]

The Punderstorm would have been perfect if :
- players had no level
- no renown, currencies+vendor instead
- no fire tornado

[Nightshade711]

There are, in fact, neutral gnolls at the end of the Amirdrassil questline who said they would protect the tree against the evil gnoll witch from that Dungeon, if I remember it correctly.

Oh interesting I must’ve missed that.
Then in that case they could be a neat AR too.

[Nymrohd]

The Punderstorm would have been perfect if :
- players had no level
- no renown, currencies+vendor instead
- no fire tornado

For me what would have made it much better was a more interesting map.

Also WoW is updating, what is it?

[Valysar]

For me what would have made it much better was a more interesting map.

Also WoW is updating, what is it?

I guess it's just the beginning, if they do it in the future, they could do other maps (like Stormsong Valley, would be perfect)

[Lorgar Aurelian]

https://twitter.com/BellularGaming/s...07504808362311

apparenty sbellular is going to release some data to prove that wow is back at legion level numbers tomorrow. he also said that retail is well below legion levels and that classic is a large chunk of the playerbase

thoughts? I expect some shady ass numbers and a lot of drama.

More made up nonsense for views, his “Data” has never been any thing but bullshit has he has no qualms with lying flat out.

[Ersula]

https://twitter.com/BellularGaming/s...07504808362311

apparenty sbellular is going to release some data to prove that wow is back at legion level numbers tomorrow. he also said that retail is well below legion levels and that classic is a large chunk of the playerbase

thoughts? I expect some shady ass numbers and a lot of drama.

The Twitch population for WoW suggests that legion figure is true. While it can't be surprising that Classic is getting more play than retail when Classic has the newest content, ironically, if you don't include Fortnite mode.

[Nymrohd]

The Twitch population for WoW suggests that legion figure is true. While it can't be surprising that Classic is getting more play than retail when Classic has the newest content, ironically, if you don't include Fortnite mode.

That just assumes a trend when there is no supporting data that the trend exists. There is no modeling that shows that twitch views have anything to do with the game population and if anything Classic Hardcore alone probably disproves the relation.

[doledippers]

I just wish they'd stop wasting my time by forcing me to spectate

you can leave the match with the 'leave match' button on the bottom right

[Foolicious]

https://twitter.com/BellularGaming/s...07504808362311

apparenty sbellular is going to release some data to prove that wow is back at legion level numbers tomorrow. he also said that retail is well below legion levels and that classic is a large chunk of the playerbase

thoughts? I expect some shady ass numbers and a lot of drama.

Didn't he do something similar during shadowlands and got laughed at by the devs? I vaguely remember his data being backed up by the amount of logged +10 or +15 keys or something like that.

[Ersula]

you can leave the match with the 'leave match' button on the bottom right

I think they're referring to the fact that it automatically switches to spectator mode through a loading screen instead of choosing the leave immediately. I guess some people got long loading screens?

[doledippers]

I think they're referring to the fact that it automatically switches to spectator mode through a loading screen instead of choosing the leave immediately. I guess some people got long loading screens?

hm maybe, but if thats the case im sorry but i dont think i could give less of a shit. sure its very minorly annoying, but youre in spectator for what, all of 2 seconds? idk, non issue imo

[Kiivar86]

https://twitter.com/BellularGaming/s...07504808362311

apparenty sbellular is going to release some data to prove that wow is back at legion level numbers tomorrow. he also said that retail is well below legion levels and that classic is a large chunk of the playerbase

thoughts? I expect some shady ass numbers and a lot of drama.

Eh, I don't really trust any unofficial numbers, especially from someone who clickbaits for a living.

edit: If he can provide solid sources though then fine I guess.

[justwatching]

Eh, I don't really trust any unofficial numbers, especially from someone who clickbaits for a living.

edit: If he can provide solid sources though then fine I guess.

There are no real solid sources to be honest. The best one is M+ because you got an official API there but that didnt exist before 9.1.5 so any comparison to Legion is really pointless. You could use WCL and Raiding but that doesnt really represent the whole playerbase so extrapolating from that is problematic. Twitch numbers are just a joke and not even worth discussing. The other problem is that there are now 2 arguably 3 games included in this subscription with cross over so you cant just start adding up numbers(thats even ignoring that WCL data contains alts etc.)

Now the most reliable way would be to reverse engineer earnings reports but as you're dealing with different regions and also includes MTX thats also bound to be inaccurate. So at best you can look at trends within specific parts of the game.

[Nymrohd]

hm maybe, but if thats the case im sorry but i dont think i could give less of a shit. sure its very minorly annoying, but youre in spectator for what, all of 2 seconds? idk, non issue imo

It also forces an extra loading screen. It is fast but it is pointless.

[Makabreska]

It also forces an extra loading screen. It is fast but it is pointless.

Man, it is such a non issue. We are scraping the literal bottom of a barrel here.