The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

Uldaz is likely the name of the Titan facility below the Temple of Elune/Tomb of Sargeras:

Except the item itself doesn't receive its buff in that location, unlike Uldir & the others. Mother only knows of 6, but the Maiden of Vitality eludes to there being at least 7 with this naming convention. This is likely due to Mother being dormant for a longer amount of time. So not only are there more, but they don't always have this naming convention, as with, for example, the Heart chamber in Silithus.

It's called the Coreway, and yeah I agree Uldaz is probably down there. Sounds a bit troll-y or dwarf-y.

I think they're retrofitting the Titan road leading from Ulduar into the Great Sea, to effectively have been a road to Khaz Algar and Uldaz. The Coreway is just the only part remaining due to the Sundering and how well the Earthen have done their jobs so far.

I think the simpler explaination is that the six facilities the Titans oversaw the building of had the Uld- naming conventions but there can be an unlimited number of Titan fascilities the Titan Keepers built after the Titans left.

[Throren]

Except the item itself doesn't receive its buff in that location, unlike Uldir & the others. Mother only knows of 6, but the Maiden of Vitality eludes to there being at least 7 with this naming convention. This is likely due to Mother being dormant for a longer amount of time. So not only are there more, but they don't always have this naming convention, as with, for example, the Heart chamber in Silithus.I think the simpler explaination is that the six facilities the Titans oversaw the building of had the Uld- naming conventions but there can be an unlimited number of Titan fascilities the Titan Keepers built after the Titans left.

Tyrhold was Uldorus and was built and named by only Tyr and his loyal servants way after the Pantheon had left. the Uld- naming theme isnt limited to just facilities the panethon themselves ordered build

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Also dunno if this was posted, but there was more concepot art for Kobolds in TWW that Blizz had up on a wall at GDC

[Varodoc]

Not sure I follow?

Yeah, what is he even talking about? What item?

[Ersula]

Yeah, what is he even talking about? What item?

The Infinite Hand, the literal only place that facility name appears. What other item could I possibly be referring to?

[Enrif]

Also dunno if this was posted, but there was more concepot art for Kobolds in TWW that Blizz had up on a wall at GDC

Mole Mount!

[Cheezits]

You know, I really hope they didn't delay red nelf skins to Midnight solely to pad out some future minor patch.

[Makabreska]

Man, Season 4 looks like crap. DF dungeons and raids rotation ONLY? When Blizz said that Fated season in SL was a success, I thought they will improve it and add more stuff to do. Fated affixes were badly received? Well then, remove their negative aspects and leave pure buffs!

[Teriz]

Also dunno if this was posted, but there was more concepot art for Kobolds in TWW that Blizz had up on a wall at GDC

Okay.... I never knew I wanted a playable Kobold race.........

But now I want a playable Kobold race!

[Raetary]

Also dunno if this was posted, but there was more concepot art for Kobolds in TWW that Blizz had up on a wall at GDC

They look really cool.

Are there more images of the art or was this the only one?

[Sondrelk]

Man, Season 4 looks like crap. DF dungeons and raids rotation ONLY? When Blizz said that Fated season in SL was a success, I thought they will improve it and add more stuff to do. Fated affixes were badly received? Well then, remove their negative aspects and leave pure buffs!

DF only dungeons does make sense to me. Give players one last chance to get all the expansion portals before they disappear for at least 2 years.

It's a shame there isn't more, but I suppose just like in SL, it's better than the nothing baseline.

I am curious about the cosmetics vendor though. I suppose it's likely just to let you buy the cosmetics you can't normally equip on that character, but its intriguing regardless. Maybe there is something interesting on it.

[Woggmer]

I don't think Uldaz is Khaz Algar. Uldaz bearing the Uld-prefix indicates a Titan facility on Azeroth, and Khaz Algar, based on the Observational Report: Earthen is where a fissure was detected and Earthen sent to, so not a facility, far as we can tell.

The report also mentions the sector designation and how the Earthen have taken to calling it Khaz Algar, with no mention whatsoever of Uldaz.

I didn't say it was Khaz Algar, but that the facility is IN Khaz Algar.. or somewhere below ground near Khaz Algar.

We don't have any information on what it could be.. and while people say it could be the facility under the Tomb of Sargeras, they don't explicitly say Uldaz. If that part of the instance WAS Uldaz, then the item (The Infinite Hand) would've responded to it and the Infinite Domain ability would've proc'd.

[Kiivar86]

I didn't say it was Khaz Algar, but that the facility is IN Khaz Algar.. or somewhere below ground near Khaz Algar.

We don't have any information on what it could be.. and while people say it could be the facility under the Tomb of Sargeras, they don't explicitly say Uldaz. If that part of the instance WAS Uldaz, then the item (The Infinite Hand) would've responded to it and the Infinite Domain ability would've proc'd.

I still don't think its there, but I'll eat crow if it turns out to be the case.

Just doesn't click to me. There's no mention of Uldaz at all in regards to the rift sector. If Uldaz was located there in some capacity, one would think it'd be mentioned.

[Dracullus]

Man, Season 4 looks like crap. DF dungeons and raids rotation ONLY? When Blizz said that Fated season in SL was a success, I thought they will improve it and add more stuff to do. Fated affixes were badly received? Well then, remove their negative aspects and leave pure buffs!

I'm confused, what you expected? It's victory lapse of expansion that will last 3-3.5 months, nothing more, nothing less. It is designed in way you can ignore it if you are fed up with DF, but experience all it's patches again if you liked it. Improvement over SL is that this time open world and professions gets item level bumps as well.

Hopefully Pandamonium stuff from 10.2.7 will be evergreen feature (most likely, cause it's looks like expansion of timewalking that is moved from X.1.5 to last patch) for sake of people that are currently on break before TWW.

[Varodoc]

I didn't say it was Khaz Algar, but that the facility is IN Khaz Algar.. or somewhere below ground near Khaz Algar.

We don't have any information on what it could be.. and while people say it could be the facility under the Tomb of Sargeras, they don't explicitly say Uldaz. If that part of the instance WAS Uldaz, then the item (The Infinite Hand) would've responded to it and the Infinite Domain ability would've proc'd.

Uhm, the item doesn't respond inside of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms either, even though there's an entire Titan facility beneath it.

So this doesn't prove anything.

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The Infinite Hand, the literal only place that facility name appears. What other item could I possibly be referring to?

Yeah this is nonsense.

The item doesn't react inside of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms either. According to your "logic", that means there is no Titan facility inside the Vale of Eternal Blossoms.

[Sondrelk]

Yeah this is nonsense.

The item doesn't react inside of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms either. According to your "logic", that means there is no Titan facility inside the Vale of Eternal Blossoms.

The item specifically mentions the various Uld locations where it works, not just any titan facility. It works in Tyrhold for instance because we know it's actually Ulduros, but not in the Vault of the Incarnates, because that is just a Titan facility, not a specific Uld-prefix one.

Uldaz is the only one that is currently unaccounted for, so the likely explanation is that it will be in a future expansion. Likely in the Coreway in Khaz Algar if you ask me.

[Varodoc]

The item specifically mentions the various Uld locations where it works, not just any titan facility. It works in Tyrhold for instance because we know it's actually Ulduros, but not in the Vault of the Incarnates, because that is just a Titan facility, not a specific Uld-prefix one.

Uldaz is the only one that is currently unaccounted for, so the likely explanation is that it will be in a future expansion. Likely in the Coreway in Khaz Algar if you ask me.

Actually, considering the connection between the Harbinger and the Tomb of Sargeras was established all the way back in Legion, it is very likely that ToS will indeed be revisited in TWW.

As for why the item doesn't work there: you wouldn't want to spoil your entire story before the alpha's even up, would you?

This is not the "gotcha" moment you think it is. Obviously they aren't going to spoil that the Tomb of Sargeras is Uldaz. It's planned to be a major plot twist, but I have already figured it out.

[Woggmer]

Uhm, the item doesn't respond inside of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms either, even though there's an entire Titan facility beneath it.

So this doesn't prove anything.

I was saying the facility in Tomb of Sargeras ISN'T Uldaz. People were saying "oh the facility in Tomb of Sargeras could be Uldaz" and I'm saying it isn't because the hammer doesn't proc in it.

[Varodoc]

I was saying the facility in Tomb of Sargeras ISN'T Uldaz. People were saying "oh the facility in Tomb of Sargeras could be Uldaz" and I'm saying it isn't because the hammer doesn't proc in it.

Which I already addressed.

People in here seriously thinking a writer would spoil his plot before Alpha is even live, hilarious.

[Woggmer]

I still don't think its there, but I'll eat crow if it turns out to be the case.

Just doesn't click to me. There's no mention of Uldaz at all in regards to the rift sector. If Uldaz was located there in some capacity, one would think it'd be mentioned.

It's a fair assumption, but I don't know where else they can fit Uldaz in Midnight or in The Last Titan since both those places are in areas we're revisiting again.

So unless the Amani Empire has a titan facility in their city of Zul'Aman or Tor'Watha, or if it's under Northrend in Azjol Nerub or in Tyr's Tomb in Tirisfal.. then the only other place it could be is somewhere near Khaz Algar (not the surface area like the Isle of Dorn, but underground.)

Heck for all we know, they could have it be where the Goblins built the Undermine and explain how they became so technologically advanced compared to other races. (This is just a random headcanon... but I will actually be shocked if they go that route.)

[Varodoc]

It's a fair assumption, but I don't know where else they can fit Uldaz in Midnight or in The Last Titan since both those places are in areas we're revisiting again.

So unless the Amani Empire has a titan facility in their city of Zul'Aman or Tor'Watha, or if it's under Northrend in Azjol Nerub or in Tyr's Tomb in Tirisfal.. then the only other place it could be is somewhere near Khaz Algar (not the surface area like the Isle of Dorn, but underground.)

Heck for all we know, they could have it be where the Goblins built the Undermine and explain how they became so technologically advanced compared to other races. (This is just a random headcanon... but I will actually be shocked if they go that route.)

Is it not already explained that it was the Kaja'mite that made them so intelligent?