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    The SoD P2 blog dropped at like 1 PM PST and others have been even later in the day.

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  3. #63043
    How boring.

    We are once again seeing why they revealed the next 3 expansions at the same Blizzcon, instead of just TWW.

    These Devs don't show much confidence at all in their work.

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    i know this sounds dramatic, but this tells me that they didnt learn anything from this whole event and how the community reacted to it. in what universe do you understand the frustration clearly articulated by the community regarding this secretive no-news-no-ptr patch, and then delay the announcement of it when it FINALLY comes without word. really annoying

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    Do you think devs put more love and dedication into Classic than Retail ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    i know this sounds dramatic, but this tells me that they didnt learn anything from this whole event and how the community reacted to it. in what universe do you understand the frustration clearly articulated by the community regarding this secretive no-news-no-ptr patch, and then delay the announcement of it when it FINALLY comes without word. really annoying
    They didnt delay it? They never specified the time and blog posts have released throughout the day many times before(for example SoD P2). I'm super critical of Blizzard in general but blaming them for things they never said and you guys just assumed is something else.

  7. #63047
    Why blizzard as one of the companies is so bad at this sorta stuff, with that many years experience it baffles me, honestly.

    Whole situation just feels like a joke right now i feel, it was funny but now its just bad.

  8. #63048
    Y'all need to chill

  9. #63049
    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    Do you think devs put more love and dedication into Classic than Retail ?
    No.

    But they looked at the success of SOD and overreacted. SoD was a fluke, not the norm, keep the secretive nonsense in SoD.

    The Sombra mystery from Overwatch back in 2016 was done so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    Do you think devs put more love and dedication into Classic than Retail ?
    Classic? The game version that is pretty much done and requires very little dev time? No.
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  11. #63051
    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    Do you think devs put more love and dedication into Classic than Retail ?
    Not really that, but the audience of Retail is more varied and less hardcore so they don't feel as attached to community expectations because so many players straight up don't go on forums/know when news usually drops.

    The blog is either scheduled for later for more eyes on it, or "it's done when it's ready"

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    Quote Originally Posted by justwatching View Post
    They didnt delay it? They never specified the time and blog posts have released throughout the day many times before(for example SoD P2). I'm super critical of Blizzard in general but blaming them for things they never said and you guys just assumed is something else.
    the community has been openly frustrated about the lack of news. 1 and 2pm est are the expected times for news because thats typically when they post news, the vast majority of the time. they know people are expecting news at those times. if we wanna be technical here they are 9 weeks late on the news. whether or not its intentional , or if they think its cute , or if they just screwed something up, its not a good look, and it certainly does not instill confidence that they've learned anything from this ordeal.

  13. #63053
    you'd think they're about to release a new game with all this blueballing

  14. #63054
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    you'd think they're about to release a new game with all this blueballing
    It may as well be a brand new WoW game even if it's just Retail Hardcore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    Do you think devs put more love and dedication into Classic than Retail ?
    The devs that make SOD are the ones that have played and continue to play wow, it's why SoD is great. Retail devs play final fantasy and that's why it has taken a serious nose dive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    It may as well be a brand new WoW game even if it's just Retail Hardcore.
    retail hardcore would be doa

  17. #63057
    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    the community has been openly frustrated about the lack of news. 1 and 2pm est are the expected times for news because thats typically when they post news, the vast majority of the time. they know people are expecting news at those times. if we wanna be technical here they are 9 weeks late on the news. whether or not its intentional , or if they think its cute , or if they just screwed something up, its not a good look, and it certainly does not instill confidence that they've learned anything from this ordeal.
    Nah I'm sorry they are not responsible for assumptions hyper engaged members of the community make. The vast majority of the playerbase has absolutely no clue when their blogs usually release and just checks wowhead twice a week.
    Last edited by justwatching; 2024-03-14 at 06:20 PM.

  18. #63058
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    retail hardcore would be doa
    Depends on the execution. I imagine there are plenty of players who would like some incentive to level some characters again. The difference between Retail and Classic would really just be down to Classic being built around levelling, whereas in Retail you would need to incentivize it somehow.
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  19. #63059
    They'd need to really overhaul leveling for any spin on it, including hardcore, to be worthwhile as a patch focus. Hardcore and SoD slot neatly into Classic because a large portion of the game is built around the leveling process. Hardcore Retail would just be a harmless 10-20 hour leveling experience, then you either die to some random M+/raid mechanic or you find a poorly scaled mob while leveling that 1-shots you with an ability that was meant to do 5% of your health. All the tuning, scaling, and level squishes over the years have made retail leveling so patchwork and inconsistent it can't carry a patch by itself.
    Last edited by Murlocos; 2024-03-14 at 06:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Depends on the execution. I imagine there are plenty of players who would like some incentive to level some characters again. The difference between Retail and Classic would really just be down to Classic being built around levelling, whereas in Retail you would need to incentivize it somehow.
    if it's on another client like classic then it's doa. retail players don't like losing their achievements
    Last edited by Reive; 2024-03-14 at 06:25 PM.

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