1. #63101
    Quote Originally Posted by Dancaris View Post
    9 weeks without news? Holy hell, you still alive?
    we're allowed to be annoyed about it, thanks

  2. #63102
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I mean it's okay to call out something that is badly handled so far.
    But why is it badly handled? They gave us a roadmap. They are giving us an ADDITIONAL patch. They tell us straight ahead they want to experiment with it and they cannot reveal much about it. The communication has been there and has been very clear.

  3. #63103
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I'm not angry, but Im just saying that Holly probably wouldn't have tweeted that one tweet at all if she wasn't cognizant of some anger in the community. The anger is more about 10.2.5 being trash than it is about 10.2.6 though (Gilneas being so low effort really ruffled feathers)

    I think people more want an apology for 10.2.5 and are hoping 10.2.6 makes up for it (it won't)
    Does anyone even care about 10.2.5 anymore?

  4. #63104
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I'm not angry, but Im just saying that Holly probably wouldn't have tweeted that one tweet at all if she wasn't cognizant of some anger in the community. The anger is more about 10.2.5 being trash than it is about 10.2.6 though (Gilneas being so low effort really ruffled feathers)

    I think people more want an apology for 10.2.5 and are hoping 10.2.6 makes up for it (it won't)
    Is the anger in the community or is it in the "content" creators who depend on Blizzard giving them news so they can talk about it for weeks instead of actually trying to be creative and make their own content?

    And no, this place is not representative, especially this thread.
    Last edited by Nymrohd; 2024-03-14 at 07:34 PM.

  5. #63105
    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    we're allowed to be annoyed about it, thanks
    aren't you the one coping about irrelevant open world quests being content?

  6. #63106
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexilius View Post
    aren't you the one coping about irrelevant open world quests being content?
    if by that you mean saying that things to do in the game are in fact content regardless of how you personally feel about them then yes that would be me

  7. #63107
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    But why is it badly handled? They gave us a roadmap. They are giving us an ADDITIONAL patch. They tell us straight ahead they want to experiment with it and they cannot reveal much about it. The communication has been there and has been very clear.
    Whole part of secrecy and teasing and the way of doing it, prolonging it that creates a feeling of disappointment more than excitement at this point, gives me at least the idea that they don't even know what they want to do there.

    I've played other games and mmo's, there been situations like these handled with more secrecy and it was handled a lot better and by companies that have less years up their sleeve.

    I was pretty much having fun and joking before, but they turned this into a bad joke, at least to me, but everyone is allowed to have their own opinion on that, blizzard doesn't pay me to clap for anything.

  8. #63108
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Is the anger in the community or is it in the "content" creators who depend on Blizzard giving them news so they can talk about it for weeks instead of actually trying to be creative and make their own content?
    I've seen the Gilneas quests and dig stuff trashed plenty online. The rest is liked well enough.

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  10. #63110
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Whole part of secrecy and teasing and the way of doing it, prolonging it that creates a feeling of disappointment more than excitement at this point, gives me at least the idea that they don't even know what they want to do there.

    I've played other games and mmo's, there been situations like these handled with more secrecy and it was handled a lot better and by companies that have less years up their sleeve.

    I was pretty much having fun and joking before, but they turned this into a bad joke, at least to me, but everyone is allowed to have their own opinion on that, blizzard doesn't pay me to clap for anything.
    Here is the thing. You can only judge if it was worth keeping it secret when they reveal it and you get to play it. You literally cannot tell beforehand if it was worth it.

  11. #63111
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Here is the thing. You can only judge if it was worth keeping it secret when they reveal it and you get to play it. You literally cannot tell beforehand if it was worth it.
    Well i can judge the situation created that led to it, no matter if its wow or some other game having teases campaigns and such.

    We're all allowed to have our own opinion on that, i won't try forcing anyone to the one i have, even if it might sound more on the negative side.

  12. #63112
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Well i can judge the situation created that led to it, no matter if its wow or some other game having teases campaigns and such.

    We're all allowed to have our own opinion on that, i won't try forcing anyone to the one i have, even if it might sound more on the negative side.
    Sure but what matters is if they payoff is worth it and to judge that, you need to actually reach the payoff
    Sometimes the delight of the surprise is worth the wait

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  14. #63114
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I was pretty much having fun and joking before, but they turned this into a bad joke, at least to me, but everyone is allowed to have their own opinion on that, blizzard doesn't pay me to clap for anything.
    yeah this is pretty much we're im at. i was definitely a little bit frustrated on the lack of news in general, but the fact the announcement is late on top of it, not a good look imo. a bad joke is a good way to put it

  15. #63115
    Here's the thing: post-expac content has normally been non-existent OR just S4 in Shadowlands. The expectations were set higher for DF when they revealed that there would be ongoing bi/trimonthly patches for post-expansion content besides just S4... and then there was backlash because portions of one of those patches (10.2.5) were seen as buggy and/or low effort. So currently there's some whiplash online.

    Yes, SOME content is better than absolutely none, but because people had higher expectations on these post-expac patches (especially when 10.0.7 and 10.1.5 were fairly meaty) I think some people are just in a worse mood during the TWW Waiting Room Period. Hence people being more antsy/attentive about 10.2.6. I don't think it will be that substantial of a patch and the gamemode(?) will likely be fairly divisive, so it will just lead to more anger. While the dripfeed content is, again, better than nothing, it is probably going to lead to some upset players.

    Historically in a WoW expansion lull you would just go play other games. But if they are encouraging people to play during an expansion lull, and the patches are seen as low-effort/bad, you will get unhappy campers who feel like Blizz is tricking them into subbing.
    Last edited by Cheezits; 2024-03-14 at 07:48 PM.

  16. #63116
    So, instead of the issue being content-creators/the community itself overhyping themselves, the issue is on Blizzard for not... what?

    I don't see how Blizzard is tricking anyonne into subbing. Like, you are allowed to stay unsubbed until after a patch is out.

    People just need to step outside for a bit and chill. There's more games than WoW. There's more to life than being disappointed that a x.x.6 patch is not "meaty" enough because you yourself hyped it up to a level that it obviously wasn't gonna reach.

  17. #63117
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    People just need to step outside for a bit and chill. There's more games than WoW. There's more to life than being disappointed that a x.x.6 patch is not "meaty" enough because you yourself hyped it up to a level that it obviously wasn't gonna reach.
    There is a line somewhere between "the community hyped themselves too much" and "the reclamation of Gilneas City (actually the entire area) is five quests".

  18. #63118
    Damn, i was contacted by blizzard lawyers - I take all my words back, it's all on community. You blizzard.. You are literally perfect, im very sorry.


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    Last edited by ImTheMizAwesome; 2024-03-14 at 07:57 PM.

  19. #63119
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    There is a line somewhere between "the community hyped themselves too much" and "the reclamation of Gilneas City (actually the entire area) is five quests".
    Once again:

    People need to take a step back and evaluate their lives if they actually get upset by that. Disappointing? Sure. Angry and throwing vitriol? Deranged.

    "Oh, you expect me to resub for a 5 quest questchain?!?!?"

    No one expected anyone to resub for anything lmao.

    And yeah, the community absolutely overhyped themselves. I don't know who expected anything longer than what we got based on all the other .5 quest chains like the Eredar one or even Lordaeron.

  20. #63120
    see you next week

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