The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Kiivar86]

Yeah. I just don't like pvp. Im not subjecting myself to 40 renown levels of PS in such a short time frame. Ill do it if they extend the event to prepatch but other than that im waiting for 10.2.7. I'm happy for the pvp bros though. They never get a win.

I hate PVP but for what its worth it really isn't that bad, at least to me. I barely even focus on attacking others. Figure out spots to divebomb at the start, finish your quest, get to about 500 plunder, run into the storm. Rinse repeat. No more mindless a grind than anything else in this game, honestly.

But I get it if that doesn't work for you, too. I got weirdly into it, though.

[Jolly Roger]

No, people don't fucking care about the mini patches anymore, we want the alpha. Also, the "plunderstorm hate" is overblown by twitter and content creators, people love it otherwise you wouldn't have instant q times lol.

i have seen many ppl just there for the rep myself included
it isnt that ppl hate it
its just another grind

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Hopefully you are right.

Definitively want to see the remaining Hero Talents.

I would rather have information about 10.2.7 this week. Really want to know if the Timerunning thing is a Timewalking kind of revamp or its own thing like Plunderstorm (hopefully the former).

give me boss rush of random MoP raid bosses

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Giving an event with absolutely no rewards would be bonkers.

nah just allows those who didnt no life the grind a way to get it

idk i just like pirates and dont want the only way to be slogging through an average of 100 more rounds

[Makorus]

i have seen many ppl just there for the rep myself included
it isnt that ppl hate it
its just another grind

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give me boss rush of random MoP raid bosses

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nah just allows those who didnt no life the grind a way to get it

idk i just like pirates and dont want the only way to be slogging through an average of 100 more rounds

You can easily get to 40 Renown while just casually playing. If you are good, it's even quicker because once you get to Top 5-10, and you kill someone, you get like 500 Rep straight away.

Anyone who cares about the Rep, whether they like to PvP or not, should have 40 by now easily.

[Darkarath]

You can easily get to 40 Renown while just casually playing. If you are good, it's even quicker because once you get to Top 5-10, and you kill someone, you get like 500 Rep straight away.

Anyone who cares about the Rep, whether they like to PvP or not, should have 40 by now easily.

Yeah I got to Renown 40 playing casually and I loved it. I was sad when I have not a reason to keep playing. Plenty of stuff to do in Retail, though.

It was a wonderful experiment. Hopefully they will evolve it and add new rewards to it.

[Vexilius]

seriously where the fuck is the news post

[Khaza-R]

Plunderstorm makes me curious if they would possibly revamp WF for BfA timewalking. Something potentially more DOTA-esque than the sloggish PvE grind we got.

[Chickat]

Why break something that works? Not only in DF, people forget second half of SL had also healthy season length - Sepulcher lasted 22 weeks, S4 - 12 weeks, also 9.2.5 was this proto mini patch which we see often in DF.

Metzen promised us "little bit shorter" expacs in Blizzcon, but after that Blizzard clarified they want end saga before 2030, which doesn't sound like three 2-tier expansions. Imo main point for revealing saga at once was to convince people this storyline is something bigger and not just trip to underground.

At best I can see them throwing out fated season if really they can release Midnight earlier than 20 months after TWW, but probably they would went with shorter than 6 months seasons + fated instead.

Sounds like 18 months and 3 tiers is their goal imo. No fated tier.

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The Forbidden Reach seems to have been created with a great thought behind. Its multiple purposes in being both a racial starting zone and a max level zone without ever feeling like content cut from the initial launch patch really lent to how great it felt. Even if it was meant as an end game zone for 10.0, the hypothetical rework into a renown farm with additional story released within a .7 patch is a great move. I'm sure a lot of people see it as paying for XYZ but only getting X & Y at first, but with each patch having more content, spreading these sort of things out to develop the story.. kinda love it. I know a lot of people weren't thrilled with the Dracthyr, but I think their story and the usage of the Forbidden Reach was definitely a highlight of Dragonflight.

That does raise the possibility of difference when reflecting on post 10.2 patches. I think these are an outlier entirely due to the fact that they're completely revisiting the expansion pipeline with the World Soul Saga, so it's not surprising that DF is being propped up on a skeleton crew. A bummer of a finish for an otherwise great expansion (systems wise, story blech), but it can be excused.

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DF is interesting though, I think there was certainly cut content, but the majority of it seems to be an entire narrative switch.

Vakthros is content that seems to have been cut.

The entire story and pacing seems to have been changed.

DF still had a good quantity of content, but maybe the narrative direction required some cuts which would instead give us filler patches that seemed poorly thought out (maybe that's the excuse Gilneas could take, because good god what was that)

It makes sense that a narrative switch happened around the time they settled on the World Soul Saga. I dont think we should expect something like that again. Im expecting the next 3 expansion plots to be a lot cleaner.

[allegrian]

I think Fated tiers will be from now on their plan B if they have to delay an expansion to get a final 4th season for the previous one.

[Chickat]

I think Fated tiers will be from now on their plan B if they have to delay an expansion to get a final 4th season for the previous one.

Makes sense yeah.

[Ersula]

I think Fated tiers will be from now on their plan B if they have to delay an expansion to get a final 4th season for the previous one.

Considering the average length of all 9 expansions added together results is exactly 2 years, an expansion has never been delayed so much it'd require an extra season. At most an expansion release date was delayed one month.

[allegrian]

Considering the average length of all 9 expansions added together results is exactly 2 years, an expansion has never been delayed so much it'd require an extra season. At most an expansion release date was delayed one month.

It's not about delaying them after announcing the release date, I'm tlaking about delaying it internally vs their expected release date. Like when they said they'd be doing 2 year expansions back in cata and it didn't came true, resulting in long final seasons.

[Lady Atia]

I think Fated tiers will be from now on their plan B if they have to delay an expansion to get a final 4th season for the previous one.

Or the plan is just to do shorter, somewhat easier tiers aswell as a fated season.

[Cheezits]

Fated is here to stay imo, the way the fated rewards are set up in DF really feels like something that will just repeat every expansion. Down to the old fated mounts being available.

[doledippers]

ok so TWIW is in an hour then, since itll be end of day in california, copium

[Cheezits]

ok so TWIW is in an hour then, since itll be end of day in california, copium

It's not over till the fat parrot/turnip sings.

[Hyrja]

Last week we got the bluepost on tuesday, maybe thats the new standard.

[milkmustache]

Last week we got the bluepost on tuesday, maybe thats the new standard.

I think that was due to avoiding any confusion with April Fools day. Wouldn't be surprised if it's delayed a day though.

[justwatching]

Last week we got the bluepost on tuesday, maybe thats the new standard.

Nah that was cause of April Fools day. I think shit is just on fire cause of SoD...they havent pushed any of the nerfs yet either and the CM team is silent.

[Merryck]

Nah that was cause of April Fools day. I think shit is just on fire cause of SoD...they havent pushed any of the nerfs yet either and the CM team is silent.

What happened in SoD?

[justwatching]

What happened in SoD?

Phase 3 can only be described as an unpolished borderline unfinished dumpster fire. The Raid shipped completely overtuned(there were bosses with more HP than Naxx 40 Patchwerk) and the new "incursions" were so broken that people did level 40-50 in 4h while also making around 1k gold. Ontop of that there are just an absurd amount of bugs(such as entire dungeons missing their loot table etc.) and Class balance being even more broken. It truly seems like nothing about it was tested.


They promised adjustments for today and some of them seemed to have just gone out but not all of them.