The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Marlamin]

So 1 week to go @Marlamin or nah?

I have prepared to bunker down for this week, next and the one after.

[Cheezits]

I am curious if they will split Helves into their own AR or not. They didn't add too much Helf stuff to to Velves and there are still plenty that don't use the void. They would also pair really well with Amani. But then they also seem to be going against faction races, unless they make them neutral (shitstorm) or they will see a return to some faction themes in TWS.

What would be fun is they add Amani, Belf and Helf druids that use the same models because they all hail from Eversong.

[Marlamin]

This week, you say?

I mean, this week is obviously reserved for 10.2.7 with testing over the weekend.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

There is barely any difference.

Well until the unstable matter that makes up there body turns them into beings of pure entropy.

[milkmustache]

I am curious if they will split Helves into their own AR or not. They didn't add too much Helf stuff to to Velves and there are still plenty that don't use the void. They would also pair really well with Amani. But then they also seem to be going against faction races, unless they make them neutral (shitstorm) or they will see a return to some faction themes in TWS.

Now that I think of it-- it's odd that Void Elves get High Elf customizations to essentially be interchangeable to the player, but Draenei and Lightforged are split into 2 races. At some point they need to just go core race > sub race. Select your faction, select your core race, select your sub race based on faction availability.

[Varodoc]

I am curious if they will split Helves into their own AR or not. They didn't add too much Helf stuff to to Velves and there are still plenty that don't use the void. They would also pair really well with Amani. But then they also seem to be going against faction races, unless they make them neutral (shitstorm) or they will see a return to some faction themes in TWS.

What would be fun is they add Amani, Belf and Helf druids that use the same models because they all hail from Eversong.

Actually, almost everything the Void Elves got since SL was stuff for the High Elf fantasy.

Fair skin, blue eyes, blonde hair, tentacle toggle, etc.

Void Elves didn't really get any exclusive customization option that truly screams "VOID ELF FANTASY".

So I do expect more tentacle stuff going into Midnight.

[Cheezits]

Now that I think of it-- it's odd that Void Elves get High Elf customizations to essentially be interchangeable to the player, but Draenei and Lightforged are split into 2 races. At some point they need to just go core race > sub race. Select your faction, select your core race, select your sub race based on faction availability.

ARs have the racials, racial mounts, voicelines (pretty big deal IMO), starting zones, unique customizations (see LFD's unique jewelry) and other little gimmicks that keep them from just being barbershop. I think it's a big reason for why people want some ARs that are still just tattoos/skin colors and are disappointed when they become barbershop, like Man'ari (and even then they snuck in a little something like the fel gift of the naaru). It's better than nothing but it's still not as good as it could be.

(Broken is a big mystery here but the more they put them off the more it seems like an AR imo)

They gave Velf and Belf some Helf stuff that was really cheap, the skin tones and eyes. But there is room for a proper AR there and actual race stuff like unique customizations, druid forms and a new paladin charger (which would ofc get reused for belf) would distinguish them from a velf with white skin.

(By the way... if you want to get really conspiratorial, they will add Undead Paladins in Midnight and then do an HD horse for both them and Humans. Save that money!)

[milkmustache]

ARs have the racials, racial mounts, voicelines (pretty big deal IMO), starting zones, unique customizations (see LFD's unique jewelry) and other little gimmicks that keep them from just being barbershop. I think it's a big reason for why people want some ARs that are still just tattoos/skin colors and are disappointed when they become barbershop, like Man'ari (and even then they snuck in a little something like the fel gift of the naaru). It's better than nothing but it's still not as good as it could be.

(Broken is a big mystery here but the more they put them off the more it seems like an AR imo)

They gave Velf and Belf some Helf stuff that was really cheap, the skin tones and eyes. But there is room for a proper AR there and actual race stuff like unique customizations, druid forms and a new paladin charger (which would ofc get reused for belf) would distinguish them from a velf with white skin.

(By the way... if you want to get really conspiratorial, they will add Undead Paladins in Midnight and then do an HD horse for both them and Humans. Save that money!)

But how many ARs are just going to be a reskin of a core race with 10 independent customization options? At the very least they should share most of them.

[Cheezits]

But how many ARs are just going to be a reskin of a core race with 10 independent customization options? At the very least they should share most of them.

Probably not many moving forward. Earthen if you count them, and then like Dark Iron their customizations only really work for them. I can see Helf and Arathi Humans being similar. But besides that we're about out of them.

If Druid of the Flame ever happen it will definitely be barbershop.

[Nymrohd]

Honestly I wish they had just gone for subraces (and matched it with racial revamp).

[Nightshade711]

I hope that we get those void elf weapons that were datamined a while ago.
I think most (if not all) of the old datamined allied race weapons were added except for theirs.

[milkmustache]

I hope that we get those void elf weapons that were datamined a while ago.
I think most (if not all) of the old datamined allied race weapons were added except for theirs.

Forever crying that the red tint for Nightborne armor is no where to be found in game. Would love some more Suramarian styled armor in Midnight.

[Nightshade711]

Forever crying that the red tint for Nightborne armor is no where to be found in game. Would love some more Suramarian styled armor in Midnight.

I don’t understand why they made so many tints for the allied races but just never added them. Except Mag’har they get tints because reasons.

Mechagnomes for example needed the two other tints imo because the gold doesn’t match the silver/rusted customizations they’ve got…

I hope they can add all the unused tints at some point in the future. They could even just be trading post sets, since we’ve got the Tauren totem recolors.

[Nymrohd]

Oh all the different appearance sets from Pandaria are now in the sets tab, nice. I hope they eventually do this for all expacs.

[Schwert]

Calling it now;
Magister Umbric is the new Council of Six member.

https://imgur.com/zeodDM6

https://imgur.com/JxcvPkm

There's a lot of discussion all over the place that it could be Aethas or Meryl, but they didn't have any reference to them added as NPCs in this build, Umbric was and his model is encrypted, and the Harbringer quest chain was also datamined and takes place in Telogrus. There's a portal in Telogrus with the Kirin Tor banner now.

He's probably getting a new model at the very least. Which is nice, dude looks horrible.

[Raetary]

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/17...Ways4frJQ&s=19

The personal tabard is here!

I just wish they update it to use the updated tabard model/texture rather than the pixel flap from 2004.

[Lahis]

Yeah Umbric being the new Council member makes very much sense. He is likely the most well versed in the Void after Locust Walker and Alleria, and we will have atleast two expansions with heavy Void involment, which is starting now before TWW gets fully on going.

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https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/17...Ways4frJQ&s=19

The personal tabard is here!

I just wish they update it to use the updated tabard model/texture rather than the pixel flap from 2004.

Well the only editable tabard is the ancient Guild Tabard, so this uses the same system.

That said, they really should update Guild Tabards and the tabard editor.

[Ersula]

Yeah Umbric being the new Council member makes very much sense. He is likely the most well versed in the Void after Locust Walker and Alleria, and we will have atleast two expansions with heavy Void involment, which is starting now before TWW gets fully on going.

I get this thinking...but doesn't he need to be a Dalaran Citizen? I suppose he could be. But that would also bend the astutely neutral dalaran extremely far toward the Alliance.

Oh Yes, it's all coming along quite nicely, in what is only the appetizer of the Worldsoul Saga.

Doesn't it feel good when a race actually gets story development? It only took 6 years.

general build isn’t the only thing that can change and when looking at in game models it doesn’t actually tell us any thing as humans have 3 builds where one is even counted as a different race but they are all physiologically the same race.

As to actually differences void elfs have, different skin and hair tones are on par with the change from night to high elf, and I’d say growing tentacles or physically turning into a void spawn are far beyond losing some Hight/musical mass.

To which even visiting the rift should bar you from entering Silvermoon via Lorethemar's order against void corruption. They're actively renouncing their Silvermoon citizenship by even being there.

[Cheezits]

I didn't consider it, but Dalaran has a lot of potential for this saga if they are going to reuse it for TLT. Potential to appear in every expansion save for TWW (though it is appearing in the prequel quests).

Mega Dalaran for TLT maybe?

[Chickat]

I didn't consider it, but Dalaran has a lot of potential for this saga if they are going to reuse it for TLT. Potential to appear in every expansion save for TWW (though it is appearing in the prequel quests).

Mega Dalaran for TLT maybe?

Im going to cry if we get Dalaran again. It was cool in Legion but 3 times is too much.

Imo Ulduar should be the capital. Or a new ground based city in CrystalSong Forrest.