The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nathanyel]

I think being in multiple guilds is to wild of a concept.

Ok, like I said, it doesn't have to be on the same character, but I absolutely hate the "[Guild] Community" I 'have to' join on every alt to even have a tiny look into guild chatter. Discord helps, but that comes with its own problems and rattails.

[Kiivar86]

They really fucked Uldir by having the mythic set be so drastically better designed than the LFR-Heroic variants.
The other sets overshadow the mythic set as all everyone thinks about is how crappy the first 3 sets look.

The mythic cloth set is very pretty, yet neutral enough for varied use.
Yet not a single soul wants to run the raid for mogs and soloing it is incredibly frustrating or almost impossible for some bosses.

I initially didn't care for the Uldir cloth armor (mythic or otherwise) but have since found them to be extremely useful for some transmog sets I've put together.

I just need them to fix the un-soloable bosses already, damn it.

[allegrian]

They really fucked Uldir by having the mythic set be so drastically better designed than the LFR-Heroic variants.
The other sets overshadow the mythic set as all everyone thinks about is how crappy the first 3 sets look.

The mythic cloth set is very pretty, yet neutral enough for varied use.
Yet not a single soul wants to run the raid for mogs and soloing it is incredibly frustrating or almost impossible for some bosses.

That happenned both in legion and BFA in basically all raids. Good thing SL made all sets look the same and not just have two finished versions (pvp elite and mythic) and the rest be versions so downgraded they look worse than leveling gear.

And now you can even unlock the extra mythic effects on the lower versions. I love how DF males getting tier sets achievable in all their pve recolors and you don't need to raid mythic.

[Nymrohd]

I think the current way raid mogs work is by far the best. You get the same design in multiple colors and you can unlock the Mythic SFX for all the colors. In the previous paradigm you'd often have some gorgeous color for the mog on normal or LFR but it would be completely simplified. Personally I think the base color (the one for which the set was designed) should always be the Normal one.

[Bindanda]

For those that keep hoping, historically the Alpha/Beta drops on a Thursday. I wouldn't expect anything tomorrow.

[allegrian]

I think the current way raid mogs work is by far the best. You get the same design in multiple colors and you can unlock the Mythic SFX for all the colors. In the previous paradigm you'd often have some gorgeous color for the mog on normal or LFR but it would be completely simplified. Personally I think the base color (the one for which the set was designed) should always be the Normal one.

Look at the paladin sets from antorus, it's clear they just designed the mythic one and downgraded + put horrible colors for the others. It seemed they made the other versions intentionally unappealing and you had no way to get the mythic set. I even raided mythic in antorus and got CE and never got the helmet or the belt. It's so much better now.

Only the druid and maybe rogue sets had nice lfr-heroic versions as they were more low fantasy with nice colors.

[Chickat]

It for sure was popular enough to garner some amount of play and most likely softened the terrible 9.1 reception, but claiming that it was easily a 1 million sub increase is very much far fetched.



Exactly : it's reasonnable to assume that retail lost 500k subs within a month, but not within a day, because that's how sub loss goes. Some unsub right when the patche is announced and they don't feel like, it, some unsub when the patch drop and they see it's shit, some wait a few days to try it out, some stay at least a month to get some bis, etc. With sub increase however, do you think that is reasonnable to assume that imaginary new 1m subs subscribed hover the course of a whole month, rather than having most of them sub on the release day ?

That graph doesn't show fine details like days though. It's quarters plotted.

[Kiivar86]

I think the current way raid mogs work is by far the best. You get the same design in multiple colors and you can unlock the Mythic SFX for all the colors. In the previous paradigm you'd often have some gorgeous color for the mog on normal or LFR but it would be completely simplified. Personally I think the base color (the one for which the set was designed) should always be the Normal one.

I also like that they're varying colors again. For a while it felt like the LFR tints were always this sorta green which I hated.

[Sondrelk]

I also like that they're varying colors again. For a while it felt like the LFR tints were always this sorta green which I hated.

I always think back to MoP with that. Every set seemed to be designed with one colour scheme in mind, and then all the other variants were quickly mocked up with the same colours. The dull green being the mainstay in many for sure.

At least they don't really do that as much anymore. They do seem to at least pick a colour scheme that kinda works for every variant. Though that might also be down to DF having the easy way out by using the five flights + Infinite and Void themed.

[Makorus]

I really hope they do the "every set has the same colour theme" thing again which lets you mix and match.

[Enrif]

Look at the paladin sets from antorus, it's clear they just designed the mythic one and downgraded + put horrible colors for the others. It seemed they made the other versions intentionally unappealing and you had no way to get the mythic set. I even raided mythic in antorus and got CE and never got the helmet or the belt. It's so much better now.

Only the druid and maybe rogue sets had nice lfr-heroic versions as they were more low fantasy with nice colors.

woa, hold your horses, the black version is amazing! Far better then big hot wing mythic version.

[Sondrelk]

woa, hold your horses, the black version is amazing! Far better then big hot wing mythic version.

Yeah, I guess if you really don't like the colours maybe. But this is absolutely nothing compared to Eternal Palace, where there really is no other way to rationalize the differences other than the developers removing bits to make it less impressive for LFR-NM.

The Paladin set looks amazing in this. Though I will say the baby blue for NM wasnt exactly the best colour.

[Dracullus]

For those that keep hoping, historically the Alpha/Beta drops on a Thursday. I wouldn't expect anything tomorrow.

We all base tomorrow speculation from Max and Towellie tweets that they will stream on Wednesday after current "break".

Of course it's always possible they both independently decided to do it day earlier to just join speculation hype, but considering they likely have to prepare videos from interviews or alpha sneak peak it makes more sense that Alpha simply starts tomorrow.

I really hope they do the "every set has the same colour theme" thing again which lets you mix and match.

You mean same colour for each difficulty Sepulcher/Vault style? Cause that was horrible.

[Makorus]

We all base tomorrow speculation from Max and Towellie tweets that they will stream on Wednesday after current "break".

Of course it's always possible they both independently decided to do it day earlier to just join speculation hype, but considering they likely have to prepare videos from interviews or alpha sneak peak it makes more sense that Alpha simply starts tomorrow.



You mean same colour for each difficulty Sepulcher/Vault style? Cause that was horrible.

Yeah, exactly that. With the new sets, realistically you can only use the same set and it's incredibly hard to mix any sets because they all have so vastly different colours

[Sondrelk]

You mean same colour for each difficulty Sepulcher/Vault style? Cause that was horrible.

For those raids, sure. But it worked wonders for the DF raids. Vault obviously with all the same colour scheme. But also stuff like how most Aberrus NM gear was Black Dragon themed, and had roughly similar colouration which made them easier to mix.

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Yeah, exactly that. With the new sets, realistically you can only use the same set and it's incredibly hard to mix any sets because they all have so vastly different colours

I didnt think so. Though I might also be thinking of Evoker that had a clear theme in what colours they used, and which hunters copied.

[allegrian]

woa, hold your horses, the black version is amazing! Far better then big hot wing mythic version.

Nah it's a chunky mess.

[Dracullus]

For those raids, sure. But it worked wonders for the DF raids.

???

Sepulcher and Vault have this weird coloring by difficulty, Aberrus and Amirdrassil don't.

[Enrif]

Nah it's a chunky mess.

what? guess you play blood elf? of course that set looks bad on twigs.

[Sondrelk]

???

Sepulcher and Vault have this weird coloring by difficulty, Aberrus and Amirdrassil don't.

Maybe it was just some that did. But for Aberrus there was a definite theming where some sets had a Bronze dragon colouration for LFR, Black dragon for NM, Red dragon for HC, Void or Infinite for Mythic, Green for PvP, and Blue for Elite.

In writing this though, I do recognize that there were several sets that didnt do this. Like DK or Druid, and probably a whole lot of other sets I don't remember.

[Chickat]

Ah, screw it.

24 HOURS ALPHA HYYYYPE!

Prob closer to 24 hours now. I dont think they will launch it at 450am there. Prob sometime in the afternoon. 21-27 hour alpha hype from this point onwards.

Although, I thin its possible that we get interviews, and streamer/creator videos tomorrow along with the final trees and alpha not until thurs.

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There are these tents to be seen around those roots, featuring leaves and stuff. Maybe Botani, or some type of underground creature we haven't seen before? Perhaps Furbolg, lol.

Treebolgs. Plantbolgs. Vinebolgs. Botanibolgs. Mossbolgs. Flowerblog. Floralbogs. Herbolgs. Verdbolgs. Vegebolgs. Verduebolgs. Shrubolgs. Weedbolgs. Mulchbolgs. Vitaebolgs.

Just a few potential names for plant furbolgs.