1. #6521
    I don't particularly like Wrathion staying as a diplomat, I would've rathered he left to do his own thing once he realized he wouldn't be Aspect.

  2. #6522
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    IF blizzard ever decides to do Tinkers in a future expansion, I wonder if they’d be restricted to Gnomes/Goblins or if they’d be open to all races.

    If they’re restricted to Gnomes/Goblins they could go all out and have them be in a mech suits most of the time, at least for one spec, and it can be around the size of a Tauren. (Like you can see with Mekkatorque’s mech when he is in the Embassy)
    They could go all out with being able to customize it too.
    If they did this they'd be inundated with "when can other races be Tinkers." They'll only restrict class options from now on if its a race specifically designed for the class, like Evoker. We have mecha mounts already & larger races don't take up any more room in them than the small ones.

  3. #6523
    danuser needs to leave, seriously. 2 expansions of crap writing and this guy still has a job. Is he blackmailing bobby? I can't understand how this guy hasn't been fired yet.

  4. #6524
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    To be fair to Maiev, she was trying to round up and hang all Night Elf mages to keep them from becoming playable and compromising night elf identity, which is not only defensible, but laudable and necessary. We're all the poorer for her failure.
    Ah yes, there's the casual fascism this thread desperately needed.
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  5. #6525
    Why Ebyssian though? Why couldnt it just be Emberthal like what made sense? Is it just because the devs wanted a fifth giant dragon model in Valdrakken? Because I am inclined t believe that is the reason why.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    Ah yes, there's the casual fascism this thread desperately needed.
    Please, I'm clearly making more of a Marxist argument. The Night Elf mages are all the descendants of the vampiric Highborne kulak class and their physical liquidation is both a moral (and narrative) necessity for the good of the organism at large.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    Ah yes, there's the casual fascism this thread desperately needed.
    #Garroshdidnothingwrong.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    danuser needs to leave, seriously. 2 expansions of crap writing and this guy still has a job. Is he blackmailing bobby? I can't understand how this guy hasn't been fired yet.
    Stop being overdramatic. Jesus christ.
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  9. #6529
    well thats nice Wrathion got wasted for some random dragon that had NO connection to anything with the black dragons and got saved by wrathion
    blizz levels of writing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkan View Post
    That's lame, but yet another human isn't?
    It's lame because of the model, but also because he acts and even talks like Baine.

  11. #6531
    you cant give a character so many death flags then go "yeah hes gonna lead now"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Lorewise they don't. They're ALWAYS fighting inside mechs. You see it throughout Blizzard artwork. The damn racial leaders are both mech pilots, and Mekkatorque and Gallywix had a mech battle in BFA that looked like something out of Gundam.

    Gnome and Goblin players being unable to partake in that fantasy is infuriating.
    We have a story of mekkatorque punching the light out of Troggs while fighting in gnomeregan.

    Trinkets don’t always fight in mechs.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  13. #6533
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Why Ebyssian though? Why couldnt it just be Emberthal like what made sense? Is it just because the devs wanted a fifth giant dragon model in Valdrakken? Because I am inclined t believe that is the reason why.
    Emberthal is completely unqualified, even if the narrative case made for her was fairly interesting. On top of the obvious disqualifier that she isn't a proper dragon and that Thrall Earthwarder business should've permanently soured people on that twist, Ebyssian has the dual benefit of being more qualified in-story, what with being a de facto racial leader for some few thousand years, and not being tied to a class in-game. While a more productive bond between the Black Aspect and the Dracthyr leader would be an interesting enough spin on Neltharion's original intent, as their main class rep and the only hope of them being relative earlier, along with following up on the whole bit about her making her own place in the world, Emberthal needs to actually do something outside of their direct oversight.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

  14. #6534
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Something to be said about how the two leaders who merited regime change were a brown man and a mentally ill woman and this at the hands of a blonde blue-eyed hereditary monarch. My deeply held progressive values were under vicious assault in Mists and BFA.
    i mean, at this point it's fairly obvious that cdev is cryptofascist - imagine making a song with a message "Proudm0r did nothing wrong"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    You're right. I forgot about Maiev consoling Tyrande at Sylvanas' trial after Maiev tried to kill Tyrande multiple times & during Cataclysm, coordinated the assassination of multiple Night Elf politicians in an attempt to take control of the government. It's literally just Sylvanas who doesn't get a pass.
    they're both women though - looks like we have more to learn about race relations after all.
    an alternative stance is taken by C. Poster in Sylvanas Windrunner of the World of Warcraft, Hillary Clinton, and the Rhetoric of Female Leadership, who takes more than just race into account.

  15. #6535
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Please, I'm clearly making more of a Marxist argument. The Night Elf mages are all the descendants of the vampiric Highborne kulak class and their physical liquidation is both a moral (and narrative) necessity for the good of the organism at large.
    I know you're kidding but I don't think it's even expressly stated that the politicians she killed were even mages. Arcane magic being legalized in Darnassus was just something that happened around the same time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Why Ebyssian though? Why couldnt it just be Emberthal like what made sense? Is it just because the devs wanted a fifth giant dragon model in Valdrakken? Because I am inclined t believe that is the reason why.
    Because other than "protecting Azeroth" Dragon Aspects main job is perpetuating the brood. And I doubt its even possible for Drakthyr to push those huge eggs out their cloaca.
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    To be fair to Maiev, she was trying to round up and hang all Night Elf mages to keep them from becoming playable and compromising night elf identity, which is not only defensible, but laudable and necessary. We're all the poorer for her failure.
    I'm sure if anyone had read the Cataclysm novel, as soon as Maeiv started ranting about "the mongrel races" a lot of wow players would have empathized with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    We have a story of mekkatorque punching the light out of Troggs while fighting in gnomeregan.

    Trinkets don’t always fight in mechs.
    TBF, we were talking about Orcs and Tauren, not Troggs.

    No one is afraid of Troggs.

  17. #6537
    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Man View Post
    well thats nice Wrathion got wasted for some random dragon that had NO connection to anything with the black dragons and got saved by wrathion
    blizz levels of writing
    Seems par on course? Didn't they completely forget about him in Legion despite the whole thing being part of his elaborate plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    It's lame because of the model, but also because he acts and even talks like Baine.
    Honestly he’s worse then Baine, Baine atleast actually went to fight Garrosh’s forces and stood up to Sylvanas (even though both came way to late), where Ebon horn hide like a coward for every thing even when the legion was on his door step.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Honestly he’s worse then Baine, Baine atleast actually went to fight Garrosh’s forces and stood up to Sylvanas (even though both came way to late), where Ebon horn hide like a coward for every thing even when the legion was on his door step.
    Which he even admits later on. Ya'll are overreacting like crazy.
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