The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

I don't particularly like Wrathion staying as a diplomat, I would've rathered he left to do his own thing once he realized he wouldn't be Aspect.

[Ersula]

IF blizzard ever decides to do Tinkers in a future expansion, I wonder if they’d be restricted to Gnomes/Goblins or if they’d be open to all races.

If they’re restricted to Gnomes/Goblins they could go all out and have them be in a mech suits most of the time, at least for one spec, and it can be around the size of a Tauren. (Like you can see with Mekkatorque’s mech when he is in the Embassy)
They could go all out with being able to customize it too.

If they did this they'd be inundated with "when can other races be Tinkers." They'll only restrict class options from now on if its a race specifically designed for the class, like Evoker. We have mecha mounts already & larger races don't take up any more room in them than the small ones.

[Reive]

danuser needs to leave, seriously. 2 expansions of crap writing and this guy still has a job. Is he blackmailing bobby? I can't understand how this guy hasn't been fired yet.

[Nathanyel]

To be fair to Maiev, she was trying to round up and hang all Night Elf mages to keep them from becoming playable and compromising night elf identity, which is not only defensible, but laudable and necessary. We're all the poorer for her failure.

Ah yes, there's the casual fascism this thread desperately needed.

[Sondrelk]

Why Ebyssian though? Why couldnt it just be Emberthal like what made sense? Is it just because the devs wanted a fifth giant dragon model in Valdrakken? Because I am inclined t believe that is the reason why.

[Super Dickmann]

Ah yes, there's the casual fascism this thread desperately needed.

Please, I'm clearly making more of a Marxist argument. The Night Elf mages are all the descendants of the vampiric Highborne kulak class and their physical liquidation is both a moral (and narrative) necessity for the good of the organism at large.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Ah yes, there's the casual fascism this thread desperately needed.

#Garroshdidnothingwrong.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

danuser needs to leave, seriously. 2 expansions of crap writing and this guy still has a job. Is he blackmailing bobby? I can't understand how this guy hasn't been fired yet.

Stop being overdramatic. Jesus christ.

[Revamp Man]

well thats nice Wrathion got wasted for some random dragon that had NO connection to anything with the black dragons and got saved by wrathion
blizz levels of writing

[Alanar]

That's lame, but yet another human isn't?

It's lame because of the model, but also because he acts and even talks like Baine.

[Revamp Man]

you cant give a character so many death flags then go "yeah hes gonna lead now"

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Lorewise they don't. They're ALWAYS fighting inside mechs. You see it throughout Blizzard artwork. The damn racial leaders are both mech pilots, and Mekkatorque and Gallywix had a mech battle in BFA that looked like something out of Gundam.

Gnome and Goblin players being unable to partake in that fantasy is infuriating.

We have a story of mekkatorque punching the light out of Troggs while fighting in gnomeregan.

Trinkets don’t always fight in mechs.

[Super Dickmann]

Why Ebyssian though? Why couldnt it just be Emberthal like what made sense? Is it just because the devs wanted a fifth giant dragon model in Valdrakken? Because I am inclined t believe that is the reason why.

Emberthal is completely unqualified, even if the narrative case made for her was fairly interesting. On top of the obvious disqualifier that she isn't a proper dragon and that Thrall Earthwarder business should've permanently soured people on that twist, Ebyssian has the dual benefit of being more qualified in-story, what with being a de facto racial leader for some few thousand years, and not being tied to a class in-game. While a more productive bond between the Black Aspect and the Dracthyr leader would be an interesting enough spin on Neltharion's original intent, as their main class rep and the only hope of them being relative earlier, along with following up on the whole bit about her making her own place in the world, Emberthal needs to actually do something outside of their direct oversight.

[guro-tchai]

Something to be said about how the two leaders who merited regime change were a brown man and a mentally ill woman and this at the hands of a blonde blue-eyed hereditary monarch. My deeply held progressive values were under vicious assault in Mists and BFA.

i mean, at this point it's fairly obvious that cdev is cryptofascist - imagine making a song with a message "Proudm0r did nothing wrong"

You're right. I forgot about Maiev consoling Tyrande at Sylvanas' trial after Maiev tried to kill Tyrande multiple times & during Cataclysm, coordinated the assassination of multiple Night Elf politicians in an attempt to take control of the government. It's literally just Sylvanas who doesn't get a pass.

they're both women though - looks like we have more to learn about race relations after all.
an alternative stance is taken by C. Poster in Sylvanas Windrunner of the World of Warcraft, Hillary Clinton, and the Rhetoric of Female Leadership, who takes more than just race into account.

[Ersula]

Please, I'm clearly making more of a Marxist argument. The Night Elf mages are all the descendants of the vampiric Highborne kulak class and their physical liquidation is both a moral (and narrative) necessity for the good of the organism at large.

I know you're kidding but I don't think it's even expressly stated that the politicians she killed were even mages. Arcane magic being legalized in Darnassus was just something that happened around the same time.

Why Ebyssian though? Why couldnt it just be Emberthal like what made sense? Is it just because the devs wanted a fifth giant dragon model in Valdrakken? Because I am inclined t believe that is the reason why.

Because other than "protecting Azeroth" Dragon Aspects main job is perpetuating the brood. And I doubt its even possible for Drakthyr to push those huge eggs out their cloaca.

To be fair to Maiev, she was trying to round up and hang all Night Elf mages to keep them from becoming playable and compromising night elf identity, which is not only defensible, but laudable and necessary. We're all the poorer for her failure.

I'm sure if anyone had read the Cataclysm novel, as soon as Maeiv started ranting about "the mongrel races" a lot of wow players would have empathized with her.

[Teriz]

We have a story of mekkatorque punching the light out of Troggs while fighting in gnomeregan.

Trinkets don’t always fight in mechs.

TBF, we were talking about Orcs and Tauren, not Troggs.

No one is afraid of Troggs.

[Khaza-R]

well thats nice Wrathion got wasted for some random dragon that had NO connection to anything with the black dragons and got saved by wrathion
blizz levels of writing

Seems par on course? Didn't they completely forget about him in Legion despite the whole thing being part of his elaborate plan.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It's lame because of the model, but also because he acts and even talks like Baine.

Honestly he’s worse then Baine, Baine atleast actually went to fight Garrosh’s forces and stood up to Sylvanas (even though both came way to late), where Ebon horn hide like a coward for every thing even when the legion was on his door step.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Honestly he’s worse then Baine, Baine atleast actually went to fight Garrosh’s forces and stood up to Sylvanas (even though both came way to late), where Ebon horn hide like a coward for every thing even when the legion was on his door step.

Which he even admits later on. Ya'll are overreacting like crazy.

[Reive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lslC...hannel=Wowhead

the cinematic with the spoilered tree