The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Schwert]

I wonder if the Helves being gone is a hint at something else..?

That they all got corrupted hopefully.

[Ersula]

That they all got corrupted hopefully.

They can't really be non-void high elves in the Rift: Only void elves can survive in the....void. It would be like a regular person going to space without a spacesuit.

[Cheezits]

Interestingly, the Worgen and Undead guards in PTR Legion Dalaran have been replaced by Silver Covenant Helves and Sunreaver Belves respectively. This seems to be an intentional change as they are Level 70s.

There's also a Kirin Tor portal in Telogrus.

They are definitely doing a "ok we'll use old lore and factions again" vibe for TWW.

[Nibelheimy]

Late to the party here but stopping in to say that this remix thing is a really good idea.

Been saying for years we need a way to get new players into old content, seasonal stuff like this is a great way to do that.

The only improvement I'd make so far (from a glance) Is making old potential allied races rewards for fully completing it. We've had so many over the years that would be perfect but were never added and it feels like we'll never have a good time for them to come around in the future. This would be perfect to add show players how Jinyu and Hozen joined the factions. Imagine a WoTLK remix which rewards Horde Tuanka, Alliance frostborne dwarves and Neutral Tuskar. A man can dream.

[Nightshade711]

I am a little disappointed though, it seems like we’re probably not going to be getting those primalist eye customization options that were datamined for every race a while back.

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Also I’m willing to bet Xal’atath is going to be doing time void shenanigans in the Timerunning/remix stuff just like she is in SoD.

Willing to bet she’ll be taking some essence from the Heart of Y'shaarj to finish her collection.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

They can't really be non-void high elves in the Rift: Only void elves can survive in the....void. It would be like a regular person going to space without a spacesuit.

We had both blood and high elfs in the rift since void elfs became playable.

[Polybius]

And Xalatath is in sod where she'll probably get the C'thun juice. Her original dagger has already some connection to nzoth after the bfa ending, and she has yogg'saron's juice from the Galakron corpse at the end of the megadungeon.

Man it's making me love the denizens of the void more and more every day. The fact they can cross reality and break the third wall like they've done in the Dungeon Journal UI....

[Viridiel]

Where are all the wild speculations? 10.2.7 seems to imply much much bigger things... the title of the patch alone "Dark Heart" implies Xal is going back in time to get the heart of Y'shaarj either before its drained or through its avatar once Garrosh sucks all that juice..
The fact that it's Eternus sending us back.. even the infinites are trying to prevent what's about to unfold.. cmonnn I suck at speculating, feed me juicy theories lol

We did a lot of speculating when it appeared on the roadmap. So far everything is pretty much in-line with what we were expecting so we haven't needed to throw out our old speculation and start again yet

I think the options are either that she'll drain Garrosh after we defeat him but before Y'shaarj's power fades away as it did in our timeline, or it'll be something to do with Xal'atoh since they're both Old-God-forged weapons with the same naming convention, or she'll run off to grab some artifact from some hidden vault that we had no idea about. Anything like draining the heart before Garrosh would involve changing the story too dramatically.

[Khaza-R]

Where are all the wild speculations? 10.2.7 seems to imply much much bigger things... the title of the patch alone "Dark Heart" implies Xal is going back in time to get the heart of Y'shaarj either before its drained or through its avatar once Garrosh sucks all that juice..
The fact that it's Eternus sending us back.. even the infinites are trying to prevent what's about to unfold.. cmonnn I suck at speculating, feed me juicy theories lol

Garrosh escapes once again and returns to the present day. Later to help us kill Lightforged AU Garrosh.

[Eldryth]

Remix sounds great. Kind of regretting taking the time to level up every class now since this sounds like a much better way to level (and I'm sure I'll want to do Landfall and Isle of Thunder on a lot of classes if we can unlock multiple of those class sets), but it's not that big of a deal. I missed a lot of MoP the first time around so I'm looking forward to actually doing all the content here.

I wonder if Demon Hunters and Evokers will be playable and get their own class sets though. I did notice that one of the meta-achievements gives a trinket with Demon Hunter's Chaos Brand effect. Hopefully that's just meant as an equivalent to all those utility scrolls and not a substitute for DHs entirely.

Interestingly, the Worgen and Undead guards in PTR Legion Dalaran have been replaced by Silver Covenant Helves and Sunreaver Belves respectively. This seems to be an intentional change as they are Level 70s.

There's also a Kirin Tor portal in Telogrus.

They are definitely doing a "ok we'll use old lore and factions again" vibe for TWW.

I think the Telogrus and Dalaran stuff is probably going to be part of the Harbinger Quests leading into TWW. Alleria seems like the obvious link- she should be hunting Xal'atath, she's obviously tied to Telogrus, and the gameplay trailer showed her going to Dalaran and having her Void visions there. I assume we'll follow her to Dalaran and see the opening scene from that trailer.

[Enrif]

The meta achievements for remix seems to be doable without doing raids, this is a relief.
Interesting are these two meta achievments
Landfall - Rewards Class Ensemble - Complete two of the following:
Isle of Thunder - Rewards Class Arsenal - Complete one of the following:

These are probably the recolors of the 3 piece trading post class sets... or recolors of the challenge mode sets?

[Nibelheimy]

The meta achievements for remix seems to be doable without doing raids, this is a relief.
Interesting are these two meta achievments
Landfall - Rewards Class Ensemble - Complete two of the following:
Isle of Thunder - Rewards Class Arsenal - Complete one of the following:

These are probably the recolors of the 3 piece trading post class sets... or recolors of the challenge mode sets?

I feel like its more than likely the trading post re-colours.

[Makorus]

The meta achievements for remix seems to be doable without doing raids, this is a relief.
Interesting are these two meta achievments
Landfall - Rewards Class Ensemble - Complete two of the following:
Isle of Thunder - Rewards Class Arsenal - Complete one of the following:

These are probably the recolors of the 3 piece trading post class sets... or recolors of the challenge mode sets?

There were datamined ensembles that had similar names to the Trading Post sets/weapons, so it's gotta be those.

Nothing in regards to CM set recolours which is sad.

[Alanar]

I think because Metzen dropped the Elves by name, people are sleeping on how the Draenei/Eredar would be involved. This is THE Light and Void war Velen has been yammering about forever, right?

If the plan isn't to make SMC full neutral, you have to get the Drae involved.

Yes, I have been mentioning the drenaei in other threads for Midnight. Some forgot hiw important they were in bc with the sunwell and all of that.

I have a feeling we might see the broken before that.

[Shamolo]

Wonder if they'll finally follow up on that loose end plotbeat from MoP about who killed Soridormi, if the Infinites are involved.

[Super Dickmann]

At long last, even more night elf content. All the primalists being put to public service on Bel'ameth is an inspired choice as well, a metaphor for tauren and sh*mans in general, really.

[BaumanKing]

Telogrus Rift is being updated.

It looks like VElves finally got their own architecture, rather than some reused assets. Finally. I now wonder why Alleria is dressed in all white and not the colors of her people.

[Sondrelk]

It looks like VElves finally got their own architecture, rather than some reused assets. Finally. I now wonder why Alleria is dressed in all white and not the colors of her people.

White is definitely closer to the Velf aesthetic than the green ranger gear she used to have.
I am more so annoyed with the new hairstyle. Makes her look like she is 16.

[Lahis]

I am a little disappointed though, it seems like we’re probably not going to be getting those primalist eye customization options that were datamined for every race a while back.

NPC customization for player races has been a thing since Vanilla.

Just because the models have dragon and primalist eyes or cult of the damned tattoos for the NPCs doesn't mean those features were ever planned for players.

[Sondrelk]

At long last, even more night elf content. All the primalists being put to public service on Bel'ameth is an inspired choice as well, a metaphor for tauren and sh*mans in general, really.

At least they are doing something of substance.