The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

No Tyri or Azuregos?
I'm sad now

[Raetary]

No Tyri or Azuregos?
I'm sad now

Not sure about Azuregos, but Tyri is present.

[Sondrelk]

Also, seems the scales have become even more unbalanced when it comes to the question of old world Dragonriding races are a point for or against a world revamp. It's now confirmed it's a limited time event that furthermore only lets you use one specific dragon. From the sounds of it you can't dragonride normally in the zones either.

So we have seemingly lost both the argument of Dragonriding being added in preparation for a world revamp. And also the argument for dragonriding races being content that is wasted if the zones are changed.

[Cheezits]

Also, seems the scales have become even more unbalanced when it comes to the question of old world Dragonriding races are a point for or against a world revamp. It's now confirmed it's a limited time event that furthermore only lets you use one specific dragon. From the sounds of it you can't dragonride normally in the zones either.

So we have seemingly lost both the argument of Dragonriding being added in preparation for a world revamp. And also the argument for dragonriding races being content that is wasted if the zones are changed.

The Blizzard post heavily hints that they are still working on dragonriding in the old world (the Riders of Azeroth are still learning). But it could just mean dragon riding will be used properly in a revamp.

I DO find it weird that it's only one dragon. Unsure of the implications, is it a spaghetti code thing? And how will they make Dragonridinf work in courses ONLY?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

So if it’s there actually spirits I guess blizzard is just ignoring that Sindy should have a soul wound like Uther and Sylvanas given that she was raised with frostmourn. not to mention both should have already have gone to the shadowlands long ago given they have been dead since wrath.

[Sondrelk]

The Blizzard post heavily hints that they are still working on dragonriding in the old world (the Riders of Azeroth are still learning). But it could just mean dragon riding will be used properly in a revamp.

I DO find it weird that it's only one dragon. Unsure of the implications, is it a spaghetti code thing? And how will they make Dragonridinf work in courses ONLY?

My guess would be spaghetti code. Letting you use any mount would require the infrastructure to actually dragonride properly. Whereas if you only have one mount you can likely make it work easier.

Regardless, the more exciting Dragonriding news in 10.1.5 was always being able to use any mount currently using the 5 Dragonriding mount skeletons for Dragonriding.

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So if it’s there actually spirits I guess blizzard is just ignoring that Sindy should have a soul wound like Uther and Sylvanas given that she was raised with frostmourn. not to mention both should have already have gone to the shadowlands long ago given they have been dead since wrath.

Being generous I guess you could argue that the soul wound would have been fixed after we freed all the souls in Torghast. No reason to assume they wouldnt naturally be drawn together.

[Raetary]

I mean, they expanded DR animations to a fuckton of mounts and "static/Dynamic Flight" abilities got datamined a bit ago.
So DR outside the isles it's definitely coming at some point.

[LemonDemonGirl]

Innaria could either be Japanese (Inari, less likely since Inari isn't a major deity in that pantheon) or more likely Mesopotamian (Inanna)

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Berkilak]

So if it’s there actually spirits I guess blizzard is just ignoring that Sindy should have a soul wound like Uther and Sylvanas given that she was raised with frostmourn. not to mention both should have already have gone to the shadowlands long ago given they have been dead since wrath.

The less we agonize over the minutiae of Shadowlands lore, the better. I'm all for introducing a little mystery back into death in the WarCraft universe.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Being generous I guess you could argue that the soul wound would have been fixed after we freed all the souls in Torghast. No reason to assume they wouldnt naturally be drawn together.

I don’t know Uther went through a whole ritual and sylvanas had hers put back by the jailer him self, doesn’t really seem like they seek out/fuse naturally.

[Kiivar86]

Yep, it's their spirits.
https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...204800/photo/1

Kalec and co. want to lay Maly and Sindi to rest.

So looks like the Dragonwrath legendary doesn't really bring about anything special? That blows. I had high hopes that having it would do something this expansion. What a missed opportunity.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

The less we agonize over the minutiae of Shadowlands lore, the better. I'm all for introducing a little mystery back into death in the WarCraft universe.

Well ya I’m all for throwing shadowlands in the trash where it belongs, it would just be nice if blizzard actually made an effort to do so officially instead of just leaving us with the questions of how this stuff is suppose to fit with it.

[Raetary]

Or they just prepare the dragon mounts for the event and nothing else.

I still think dragonriding is limited by its own design and it wouldn't integrate cohesively with the rest of the game. The limited event seems a good compromise.

So, you are saying they added a bunch of animations to 89 different mount models, added 200 differents achievements for Courses in every zone across Kalimdor and EK, and implement spells for enabling one flight style or the other so they can... prepare for a single course, for a temporary event using a singular mount?

[Marlamin]

So, you are saying they added a bunch of animations to 89 different mount models, added 200 differents achievements for Courses in every zone across Kalimdor and EK, and implement spells for enabling one flight style or the other so they can... prepare for a single course, for a temporary event using a singular mount?

As the Riders of Azeroth are still learning about dragonriding, you’ll use standard flight between races.

This also implies it'll be expanded upon in the future. I'm expecting a Eastern Kingdoms Cup in a future patch (most achievements/races are already in, so maybe even during 10.1.5 or 10.1.7), with the dynamic/static flying system being implemented afterwards.

[Luck4]

How is Dragonriding being added in any way killing the world Revamp dream? Isn't it just as likely it proves it is happening given it shows the developers are working on the old continents to make Dragonriding possible?

I think the feeling comes from the fact that Dragonriding in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms could've been sold as an expansion feature:



With that said, I'm still going to fight for it!

The lore and the game as a whole desperately need some homeland racial development.

[Berkilak]

Well ya I’m all for throwing shadowlands in the trash where it belongs, it would just be nice if blizzard actually made an effort to do so officially instead of just leaving us with the questions of how this stuff is suppose to fit with it.

We'd never get a statement. We'll just get additions like this that deal with the afterlife without giving Shadowlands a second thought. Which is how retconning should be done - in bits and pieces, not a grandiose announcement.

[Luck4]

Well ya I’m all for throwing shadowlands in the trash where it belongs, it would just be nice if blizzard actually made an effort to do so officially instead of just leaving us with the questions of how this stuff is suppose to fit with it.

It still amazes me how nearly nobody cares or is excited about what Jailer said in the last cinematic. The expansion was so lame that people rejected everything, even the giant thread the Jailer opened.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don’t know Uther went through a whole ritual and sylvanas had hers put back by the jailer him self, doesn’t really seem like they seek out/fuse naturally.

She was just ressed into Undeath, Frostmourne didn't really touch her in the same way Uther and Sylvanas were.

[Nymrohd]

OK Malygos' Visage is IT. I want that mog yesterday. I am hard for that cape.

[Marlamin]

Yes. This would allow everyone to use any dragon in their collection for the event.

Not exactly.

You’ll ride a special mount exclusively during these races.