The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Kiivar86]

Yeah and no Tusks on the Vendor yet. Hopefully just an oversight.

I have to imagine those will be available, I mean if they're doing stuff like the various boss mounts and all...

I already have the tusks but I hope for everyone else they're available.

Man, this remix is a transmog enthusiast's dream.

[justwatching]

Yeah it would be crazy to have essentially everything else thats rare and still obtainable including recolors for the dark shaman set but not the Tusks.

They also should add the unused recolors of the CM set. Keep the original exclusive for all I care but those recolors deserve better than sitting unused in the files.

[Nymrohd]

Yeah it would be crazy to have essentially everything else thats rare and still obtainable including recolors for the dark shaman set but not the Tusks.

They also should add the unused recolors of the CM set. Keep the original exclusive for all I care but those recolors deserve better than sitting unused in the files.

Does anyone have a link to those?

[Marlamin]

DF-specific branding was removed from the (internalish) Alpha client in Battle.net. We're almost there!

[elbleuet]

Hello you

[justwatching]

Does anyone have a link to those?

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mists-o...h-death-knight

[Woggmer]

Isn't Iridikrons lair implied to be beneath Icecrown?

That isn't right.. Beneath Icecrown is the Forge of Souls.. but even below it is just Nerubian cities.

Unless that got changed.

[PenguinChan]

I have to imagine those will be available, I mean if they're doing stuff like the various boss mounts and all...

I already have the tusks but I hope for everyone else they're available.

Man, this remix is a transmog enthusiast's dream.

Not right now anyways. It's a little silly they didn't include them when other super rare or unobtainable things have been introduced in past events or added to the base game again.

[Throren]

That isn't right.. Beneath Icecrown is the Forge of Souls.. but even below it is just Nerubian cities.

Unless that got changed.

his old lair according to the novel was under a mountain just north of Dragonblight

[Kiivar86]

Isn't Iridikrons lair implied to be beneath Icecrown?

Feel like Storm Peaks is far more likely, Harrowsdeep is described as being beneath a large mountain that's north of Dragonblight. Icecrown is certainly north of it but Storm Peaks is more directly north, and especially coupled with it being beneath a large mountain, seems more likely to me.

[Khaza-R]

My biggest fear with TLT is they are going to think just naturally progressing Northrend is too boring and decide to Cataclysm it.

And with Metzen back at the helm, I think its a very possible reality. I don't want to see Icecrown turned into a volcano or Grizzley Hills as desert because its "cool".

[Scyth]

I still hope that's the case. I think Iridikron is a more interesting character than any of the titans bar Sargeras, and the Titans are a more interesting "villain".

Yeah me too. I also like his design more than any of the titans, except Sargeras of course.

Although I don't think all titans will get killed, I wouldn't mind Iridikron being actually right in wanting them gone. Who knows, he might turn out to be like Illidan lol

[Cheezits]

My biggest fear with TLT is they are going to think just naturally progressing Northrend is too boring and decide to Cataclysm it.

And with Metzen back at the helm, I think its a very possible reality. I don't want to see Icecrown turned into a volcano or Grizzley Hills as desert because its "cool".

They are going to have to radically change some aspects of it because Northrend is very, very similar to chunks of Dragonflight.

Also Dragonblight will probably have... uh... more going on.

[Woggmer]

his old lair according to the novel was under a mountain just north of Dragonblight

Probably Storm Peaks or Crystalsong Forest then... ironic considering that it's smack-dab next to ULDUAR.

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My biggest fear with TLT is they are going to think just naturally progressing Northrend is too boring and decide to Cataclysm it.

And with Metzen back at the helm, I think its a very possible reality. I don't want to see Icecrown turned into a volcano or Grizzley Hills as desert because its "cool".

There's one of two ways they can go about it... They could go the Midnight route and revamp certain parts of it in an enclosed server separate from Northrend (i.e. no reason to go the Cata route [especially siince the only reason they went the cata route was because of flying implemented, Northrend already has flying so no point in deconstructing everything].)

OR Option 2... It's all underground.

[Khaza-R]

They are going to have to radically change some aspects of it because Northrend is very, very similar to chunks of Dragonflight.

Also Dragonblight will probably have... uh... more going on.

I don't think radical is necessary.

Natural progression is fine. Maybe the Crystalsong Forsest has grown into other zones. Nerubians have taken footholds in other lands like Zul'Drak with the decline of the Ice Trolls.

If there's two zones I would expect to get a major change it would be Icecrown given the SL revelations and Stormpeaks given its Titan-focused nature.

[Scyth]

Gameplay-wise it seems to me that Remix is entirely about leveling characters fast and collections. I doubt the gameplay will be challenging or compelling in a different way; it is just content scaled to not melt when played by a DF character. We will see when people reach heroic raids and Mythic SoO.

It's not really even about experiencing MoP, we'll have to wait for MoP classic for that sadly.

It's really just a more fun way to level characters before the new xpac starts. I'm personally ok with that, never played MoP and this is good enough for me! I also wanted to level a warlock so win-win

[Ersula]

It's really just a more fun way to level characters before the new xpac starts. I'm personally ok with that, never played MoP and this is good enough for me! I also wanted to level a warlock so win-win

That being said, It's causing me to remember MoP had the best hangout vibes of any expansion ever. I'm sure if you find a group of people who want to do the whole thing including the endgame raids it will be a very rewarding experience.

Also the intro questline reminding us all both the horde & alliance enslaved pandaran civilians. Where did that game go?

That isn't right.. Beneath Icecrown is the Forge of Souls.. but even below it is just Nerubian cities.

Unless that got changed.

Iridikron's lair is just in the region now known as Northrend, according to the most recent novel. Nobody knows where it is exactly because of the sundering.

[Woggmer]

Iridikron's lair is just in the region now known as Northrend, according to the most recent novel. Nobody knows where it is exactly because of the sundering.

Yeah, but I doubt it's in Icecrown since I'd say around that vicinity is Azjol Nerub around the left side of Dragonblight.

And they said it was North of Dragonblight.. so it would be either in Storm Peaks or Crystalsong Forest. (Heck it could also be within Zul'Drak's reach as well but we won't know until they actually reveal something.)

And I'm betting it'll be Storm Peaks since it is the closest to Ulduar. The Titans will return from Ulduar at some point and Iridikron will use his home turf as an established base to launch attacks on them.

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Yeah me too. I also like his design more than any of the titans, except Sargeras of course.

Although I don't think all titans will get killed, I wouldn't mind Iridikron being actually right in wanting them gone. Who knows, he might turn out to be like Illidan lol

Yeah, I don't think they'll have the titans killed or all of them entirely villain batted like "ORDER GOOD, ANYTHING ELSE IS EVIL!" There has to be a lot more to it than just that. However, I can't forsee Iridikron being the "final boss" the expansion and the whole Saga they're building here.

[Viridiel]

That isn't right.. Beneath Icecrown is the Forge of Souls.. but even below it is just Nerubian cities.

Unless that got changed.

I believe that's actually exactly why people have identified it as being underneath Icecrown, with the idea being that the Nerubians and Faceless Ones infested the existing lair.

Storm Peaks is possible but I'm not sure there are any mountains that aren't full of titan machinery. Harrowsdeep was turned into a massive trembling volcano that would've destroyed any titan machinery near it, but I guess it's possible they were rebuilt after the fact. We don't really have a good timeline for when the Keepers became more stagnant.

But there's a line in the book that says Alexstrasza was flying over a tundra which lay between Harrowsdeep and the Broodlands. The Broodlands is the Dragon Isles, and the only tundra we know of in Northrend is the Borean Tundra, which would mean that Harrowsdeep is either Hyjal (being currently the largest mountain in its range) or somewhere that was sunken in the Sundering. My money is on it having been somewhere that was sunken in the Sundering and Iridrikron will raise it from the ocean west of Northrend. It's described as being particularly large and could easily serve as an entire zone.

At the end of the day, though, the Sundering is such a wildcard that any number of things might've happened to Northrend to skew the landscape. They could put it pretty much anywhere reasonably around Northrend and claim there used to be a tundra between it and the Dragon Isles.

[huth]

his old lair according to the novel was under a mountain just north of Dragonblight

Which rules out Icecrown on account of it not being a mountain.