The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Heritage armor WILL be awarded for Timerunning!

[leothar]

I think they drop normal raid ilvl loot and give Hero 1/6 at the Vault?

Hard mode drops hero track gear from bosses actually.

[Sondrelk]

I think it is something they want to do. Considering there are int two-handed weapons in Dragonflight, which are only for Holy Paladins, but they don't make sense for them because they need a shield for Shield of the Righteous. We went an entire expansion with weapons on the loot table that are designed for no one.

Int swords were designed for Evoker actually.

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Anyone else kinda meh about Season 4 and just waiting for TWW? Not hating, just feeling like they are done with the expac.

The last season in DF and SL were both seemingly designed with the intent of just giving players some variety until the next expansion, so I don't think what you are feeling is all that surprising.

Personally I just enjoy having a bit more variety in raiding, and a chance to get the remaining DF portals I didnt get from Season 1.

[Raetary]

Anyone else kinda meh about Season 4 and just waiting for TWW? Not hating, just feeling like they are done with the expac.

Don't care about the season either.
I'll check it out to see the new Dungeon overhaul, but that's it.

I'm waiting for Remix and the Dark Heart quests.

[Fiercelord]

I was hoping for a new playable PTR build today

[Ersula]

I could see another set of Hero talents that are spec exclusive. So you have two cross spec and one spec- exclusive option.

This is definitely in the realm of possibilities. I think they wanted 2 to start with so every spec would have a choice & had them shared for the sake of simplicity. Now it just depends on what interesting gimmicks they can think of, and if one of those gimmicks only works for one spec that's fine. In fact we might see a Hero spec that appears for multiple classes in the future: For example a hero spec that appears as an option for all tanks, or maybe just plate-wearing tanks. Or a hero spec for Demons Hunters and Warlocks.

If we're supposedly getting multiple classes during The Worldsoul Saga I can see them double-up new hero specs so every spec gets another option by the end. For example:

Blood of the Legion (AoE DPS, Affliction Warlock, Demonology Warlock, both Demon Hunter specs)
Lord of the Arena (Barbarian Tank, Protection Warrior, Protection Paladin, Blood DK)
Aspectral Flame (AoE DPS, Fire Mage, Devastation Evoker, Destruction Warlock)
Ascended One (Mistweaver, Resto Druid & Resto Shaman)

[Merryck]

Heritage armor WILL be awarded for Timerunning!

Seems like a mist opportunity to not have Pandaren heritage for the remix ...

[Hyrja]

Seems like a mist opportunity to not have Pandaren heritage for the remix ...

I see what you did there

[Chickat]

Yeah, S4 dabbling and Diablo S4 dabbling until MoP remix for me.

[Nathanyel]

Considering there are int two-handed weapons in Dragonflight, which are only for Holy Paladins, but they don't make sense for them because they need a shield for Shield of the Righteous. We went an entire expansion with weapons on the loot table that are designed for no one.

Only for Holy Paladins? Regarding non-Staff Int 2h Weapons, you are forgetting Druids (Maces, Polearms), Evokers (Maces, Axes, Swords) and, well, Shamans (Maces, Axes)

[milkmustache]

It's a good feeling that there has so far been only a few weeks of lull in between expansions. Timerunning is gonna be exciting. They've pretty much stuck to their guns about no more content gaps.

[CasualFilth]

I'm doing some old content at the mo - mainly Shadowlands (which is full of people right, never seen Oribos so crowded since that expansion's launch), and I've been tinfoiling a bit. Do you think Warbands was meant to be a Shadowlands feature? Just think about it, 4 Covenants, 4 members of a Warband, making everything so much easier to get/progress through. Just my 2copper.

[ChronoSul]

I think it is something they want to do. Considering there are int two-handed weapons in Dragonflight, which are only for Holy Paladins, but they don't make sense for them because they need a shield for Shield of the Righteous. We went an entire expansion with weapons on the loot table that are designed for no one.

There are so many classes that can use an two hand int weapon that arent staffs now. Also worth mention Shamans can use staffs & every 2 hand agility class can also use staffs so if u wanted to add 2h Enh just make sure there is always a 2hand agi staff

[milkmustache]

I'm doing some old content at the mo - mainly Shadowlands (which is full of people right, never seen Oribos so crowded since that expansion's launch), and I've been tinfoiling a bit. Do you think Warbands was meant to be a Shadowlands feature? Just think about it, 4 Covenants, 4 members of a Warband, making everything so much easier to get/progress through. Just my 2copper.

I'm sure it's something they've kicked around quite a bit until they could get the proper resources to follow through with it.

However, I do not think that the character count is an indicator; I believe they said that it is not limited to 4, that is just the current version in alpha.

[Ersula]

There are so many classes that can use an two hand int weapon that arent staffs now. Also worth mention Shamans can use staffs & every 2 hand agility class can also use staffs so if u wanted to add 2h Enh just make sure there is always a 2hand agi staff

I didn't realize Evokers could use 2 handed Swords, but they're the only spec who can currently use a two handed int sword optimally. Holy Paladin needs a shield for Shield of the Righteous.

[CasualFilth]

I'm sure it's something they've kicked around quite a bit until they could get the proper resources to follow through with it.

However, I do not think that the character count is an indicator; I believe they said that it is not limited to 4, that is just the current version in alpha.

It would be great if it's more than 4, that's for sure!!

[PenguinChan]

I strongly doubt it was malicious intent by Ion specifically that got Glad Stance removed. He wasn't even Game Director yet when it was axed.
People always say "wah he was a lawyer and progress raider" but I feel WoW has become much more casual-friendly and less focused on raids since he took over.

Last I checked Ion was apart of the whole dev team of directors that worked on WoD and all of the classes and such. He wasn't the lead director or producer, but he was absolutely there. Again it's just a tin-foil theory from me.

It was removed after WoD because it's a massive change given by a single talent. Far more change than any talent should reasonably give. Not only in terms of changing abilities, but in making a tank spec into a DPS spec.

For Hero Talents however it's just right, and the way it can be picked by Arms and Prot makes it much easier to balance since you can just ensure only the Arms variant is actually viable as DPS.

Well I'm not arguing for the reason it got removed, because it's a very valid one (although I disagree with it). It did create a lot of confusion since it altered quite a lot about prot warrior.

[Scyth]

I'm happy Blizz mentioned heritage armour is attainable from Remix. Time to get the Nelf, Nightborne and Orc ones!

[Dracullus]

I'm happy Blizz mentioned heritage armour is attainable from Remix. Time to get the Nelf, Nightborne and Orc ones!

Yeah, I have all races done but definitely saving my Earthen character for WoD Remix.

[Hitei]

I'm happy Blizz mentioned heritage armour is attainable from Remix. Time to get the Nelf, Nightborne and Orc ones!

It's not attainable from remix, you are just able to reach the prerequisite level from it like you would from regular leveling.