The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Scyth]

I'm happy Blizz mentioned heritage armour is attainable from Remix. Time to get the Nelf, Nightborne and Orc ones!

[Dracullus]

I'm happy Blizz mentioned heritage armour is attainable from Remix. Time to get the Nelf, Nightborne and Orc ones!

Yeah, I have all races done but definitely saving my Earthen character for WoD Remix.

[Hitei]

I'm happy Blizz mentioned heritage armour is attainable from Remix. Time to get the Nelf, Nightborne and Orc ones!

It's not attainable from remix, you are just able to reach the prerequisite level from it like you would from regular leveling.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I didn't realize Evokers could use 2 handed Swords, but they're the only spec who can currently use a two handed int sword optimally. Holy Paladin needs a shield for Shield of the Righteous.

Is there a reason for holy to be using SoR in the alpha?

I know I don’t have it on my bars on live and am using Tyr’s hand though I haven’t played with holy to muc since the rework.

[SunspotAnims]

However, I do not think that the character count is an indicator; I believe they said that it is not limited to 4, that is just the current version in alpha.

Correct, the warband functionality is fully account-wide across all characters. The four characters at the character select screen is just a cosmetic thing to show off your four favorites, but the warband isn't limited to just them.

[Scyth]

It's not attainable from remix, you are just able to reach the prerequisite level from it like you would from regular leveling.

You know what I meant, come on

[FelPlague]

Related to this, there is that magnaron-like model that's been datamined. Only major differences it has with the Draenor magnaron is that it has two eyes (and some sort of head growth/carapace/rock) and tusks of some sort.

Both lifeforms were created by titan interference, so this could be more evidence of such.

[Jolly Roger]

Why are people saying August? I'm pretty sure this expansion is dropping in June or July.

dude the alpha hit in april
you expect a testing period of like 3 months?

[Foolicious]

Is there a reason for holy to be using SoR in the alpha?

I know I don’t have it on my bars on live and am using Tyr’s hand though I haven’t played with holy to muc since the rework.

Maybe? Same reason to use it right now. It's your holy power spender that does damage. With herald of the sun you can use it to apply a damaging dot. So in theory there is reason to use it. It's mostly tuning that makes it negligible.

Tyr's hand and sor is one of my biggest gripes when it comes to transmog rules. because for all reasons blizzard always lists (pvp suprise factor, animations etc.) Holy shouldn't be able to click that button. Yet they are. And no one cares. But god forbid i want my dagger to look like a mace.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Maybe? Same reason to use it right now. It's your holy power spender that does damage. With herald of the sun you can use it to apply a damaging dot. So in theory there is reason to use it. It's mostly tuning that makes it negligible.

Tyr's hand and sor is one of my biggest gripes when it comes to transmog rules. because for all reasons blizzard always lists (pvp suprise factor, animations etc.) Holy shouldn't be able to click that button. Yet they are. And no one cares. But god forbid i want my dagger to look like a mace.

Ah Herald giving it a dot could be useful, but ya its really all going to come down to tuning.

I know i got a fair amount of use out of it in early shadowlands when holy could actually do damage in PVP but that in DF they are noodles so.

[Nathanyel]

I'm doing some old content at the mo - mainly Shadowlands (which is full of people right, never seen Oribos so crowded since that expansion's launch), and I've been tinfoiling a bit. Do you think Warbands was meant to be a Shadowlands feature? Just think about it, 4 Covenants, 4 members of a Warband, making everything so much easier to get/progress through. Just my 2copper.

Your Warband is your entire account, all characters. Those 4 are just your favorites, displayed on the main view of the character select screen, selecting another one still brings up the old racial screens. Once you're logged in, that doesn't mean a thing, everything is shared to all characters where applicable, and you can unlock all Transmogs that don't have a "Class: XY" tag.

I didn't realize Evokers could use 2 handed Swords, but they're the only spec who can currently use a two handed int sword optimally. Holy Paladin needs a shield for Shield of the Righteous.

If you want something that's only useful to one class, try Agility 2h Swords. There's also one Agility 2h Axe from Ruby Life Pools, but at least that could theoretically be used by Enh Shamans as well, as discussed above.

Honestly, all melee weapons at least from casual content (wherever, there is no one competition over loot) should have both Agi and Str. Gives everyone more options without having to implement outliers like 2h Agi Swords.
That reminds me, Rings/Trinkets from casual content shouldn't have the Unique-Equipped tag, always annoying when you get duplicates from a WQ or a token and can't equip them.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I'm doing some old content at the mo - mainly Shadowlands (which is full of people right, never seen Oribos so crowded since that expansion's launch), and I've been tinfoiling a bit. Do you think Warbands was meant to be a Shadowlands feature? Just think about it, 4 Covenants, 4 members of a Warband, making everything so much easier to get/progress through. Just my 2copper.

There is nothing special about the number four for Warbands. That is just the number of characters you can put on your login screen. They don't gain any bonuses mechanically.

[Nathanyel]

It's not attainable from remix, you are just able to reach the prerequisite level from it like you would from regular leveling.

I don't like how Wowhead phrased their article title, as even the bluepost stressed "eligible".

People are gonna read only the title and some words, then level an AR and complain they have to wait until the end of Timerunning to actually unlock it.

[Sentynel]

I don't like how Wowhead phrased their article title, as even the bluepost stressed "eligible".

People are gonna read only the title and some words, then level an AR and complain they have to wait until the end of Timerunning to actually unlock it.

Wowhead is nothing more than a shitty clickbait site. I mean, creating 3 different "articles" about a single blue post is just pathetic.

I try to avoid using it as much as possible.

[PenguinChan]

Wowhead is nothing more than a shitty clickbait site. I mean, creating 3 different "articles" about a single blue post is just pathetic.

I try to avoid using it as much as possible.

Pretty much. Their guides are nice but anything news related tends to be obnoxiously over-inflated.

When their own twitter account has better news handling and easy to digest information that is, essentially, the articles summed up in 250 characters or less.

[Hitei]

You know what I meant, come on

I was just specifying because it would be wildly inefficient to use remix to try and get the three heritage armors done. The leveling is generally slower (especially for the first character) than just spamming dungeons or an effective quest zone progression in chromie, and once you do hit level 50, you'd have to wait until the event ends, potentially a couple months, to actually be able to start and do the questline, since it can't be acquired or done on Pandaria.

[PenguinChan]

I'm doing some old content at the mo - mainly Shadowlands (which is full of people right, never seen Oribos so crowded since that expansion's launch), and I've been tinfoiling a bit. Do you think Warbands was meant to be a Shadowlands feature? Just think about it, 4 Covenants, 4 members of a Warband, making everything so much easier to get/progress through. Just my 2copper.

Honestly I don't think it's a Shadowlands feature, more like it was an idea that they had kicking about and wanted to act on but just couldn't find the time or budget for it. I have a feeling that the technical debt wasn't deep enough for their leads and shareholders to really provide a necessary distraction to fix all of it yet. But come BfA it was sort of a focal point and had put pressure on it, and Shadowlands made it a beaming issue. And seeing as how an expansion is in the works by the time one launches, it means we're behind in some ideas / developments.

That is to say: It probably was an idea in the concept stage that they had mid-to-late Shadowlands, and wanted to work on it. But Dragonflight was already underway, and the systems in place were most likely not set up for the Warband (account bound) renown system they wanted. They could've pushed back Dragonflight's launch to introduce it, or instead, put that system into the next expansion and give yourself time to fix it there.

That's my +2cents.

I was just specifying because it would be wildly inefficient to use remix to try and get the three heritage armors done. The leveling is generally slower (especially for the first character) than just spamming dungeons or an effective quest zone progression in chromie, and once you do hit level 50, you'd have to wait until the event ends, potentially a couple months, to actually be able to start and do the questline, since it can't be acquired or done on Pandaria.

REALLY depends on how many heritage armors they need. If it's just one or two, yeah it's not efficient. 6 or 7? That EXP cloak gain will be 300%+ which will blow the snot outta 1-50 leveling, as you'll be able to spam dungeons or LFR anyways. Remix is great to catch-up on cosmetics, gain new or old toys & mounts, level an alt to 70 for TWW (with better gear than normal 70s), all the while you'll get the added heritage armor bonus at the release of TWW.

[Lahis]

I think it is something they want to do. Considering there are int two-handed weapons in Dragonflight, which are only for Holy Paladins, but they don't make sense for them because they need a shield for Shield of the Righteous. We went an entire expansion with weapons on the loot table that are designed for no one.

Druids and shamans can use 2h maces.

2h mace was in fact the dungeon BiS for Boomkins in S2.

[Nathanyel]

Remix is great to catch-up on cosmetics, gain new or old toys & mounts, level an alt to 70 for TWW (with better gear than normal 70s)

I would assume that your OP gear during Timerunning will be converted to regular Adventurer-track gear, same power level as a boosted character.

I wonder whether not letting characters drop out of Timerunning early is a technical limitation or a design decision. It might be significantly easier, even with the way they can create wildly different items on the same itemID, to convert all Timerunners at once when the event ends, instead of executing a script for just one character when the player decides to end Timerunning.

[Reive]

alpha build today or tomorrow?