The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[allegrian]

I mean they did add a red and blue dracthyr Scalecommander so each faction could have a representative. I am sure they'll do something similar with two high ranking Earthen.

It's a bit different as dracthyr are a main race and have no place to go so they join the factions. Earthen have the same flavor text for both factions in the caracter creation screen and makes them look like individual adventurers that want to explore the world, but who knows. The flavor text says this:

"Newly freed of the edicts that bount them, the new earthen venture forth with limitless curiosity to explore the world and join the Alliance/Horde"

[Ersula]

Could be, although I think they're going with earthen playable characters just being adventurers from the TWW zone that are exploring the world and joined whichever faction, I don't think important earthen leaders will join either faction politically, but we've yet to confirm this. Isn't the earthen AR intro quest/cinematic in the Alpha?

Players can make Earthen for testing. We have the achievement but it seems like you have to complete the the TWW campaign questline for each zone to unlock them properly.

Generally we need a faction leader for the race to actually feel like part of the horde or alliance when the story dictates they have club meetings. We haven't had one of those for a while so people forget Azurathel, representing the Obsidian Watchers, is the leader of the Alliance Drakthyr & Cindrethresh of the Dark Talons is the leader of the Horde Drakthyr.

I assumed the introduction of the Unbound, Oathbound & Machine Speakers factions was to eventually represent Alliance, Horde & Neutral Earthen.

It's a bit different as dracthyr are a main race and have no place to go so they join the factions. Earthen have the same flavor text for both factions in the caracter creation screen and makes them look like individual adventurers that want to explore the world, but who knows.

So like Pandarians, who have Ji Firepaw & Aysa Cloudsinger

[allegrian]

Players can make Earthen for testing. We have the achievement but it seems like you have to complete the the TWW campaign questline for each zone to unlock them properly.

Generally we need a faction leader for the race to actually feel like part of the horde or alliance when the story dictates they have club meetings. We haven't had one of those for a while so people forget Azurathel, representing the Obsidian Watchers, is the leader of the Alliance Drakthyr & Cindrethresh of the Dark Talons is the leader of the Horde Drakthyr.

I assumed the introduction of the Unbound, Oathbound & Machine Speakers factions was to eventually represent Alliance, Horde & Neutral Earthen.

We'll have to wait and see. Did we see other earthen leaders with custom models? And the npc you said looks like a Machine Speaker.

[Auxis]

Voidweaver spell animations look sick.

I know. At the rate they are going with talents changes and hero specs, I'm gonna have a hard time choosing a main this expansion. But I guess Warbands make it possible to main multiple classes, so...

I just hope the core/capstones of the more passive Hero trees (Keeper of the Grove, the Resto-Cat one, Shado-pan, Soul Harvester (Affli/Demo), etc.) look as good

[allegrian]

I assumed the introduction of the Unbound, Oathbound & Machine Speakers factions was to eventually represent Alliance, Horde & Neutral Earthen.So like Pandarians, who have Ji Firepaw & Aysa Cloudsinger

Not the same, as those pandaren aren't actually from pandaria, but from the wandering isle that they leave behind (until Legion monk order hall), and they are a main race, so it's basically the same as dracthyr where they join each faction as their new home after losing theirs.

[Ersula]

Not the same, as those pandaren aren't actually from pandaria, but from the wandering isle that they leave behind (until Legion monk order hall), and they are a main race, so it's basically the same as dracthyr where they join each faction as their new home after losing theirs.

In that their race description is the same for each faction.

We'll have to wait and see. Did we see other earthen leaders with custom models? And the npc you said looks like a Machine Speaker.

I mean, I don't know which faction of Earthen is going to go with which group.

[allegrian]

In that their race description is the same for each faction.I mean, I don't know which faction of Earthen is going to go with which group.

I hope they don't to that "earthen faction" split. Just make the three factions neutral and let you make your earthen's headcanon be whatever you want. Horde earthen make little sense so its better to keep them as "allied individuals" than political affiliations.

[Noirebene]

Now that I've seen the strong evidence of Goblins in this expansion, I can't believe I made fun of the forbidden T while he correctly guessed underground, nerubians and Undermine. I'm ready to see tinkers at any time now...

I was a fool...

[Nymrohd]

Voidweaver spell animations look sick.

They absolutely do. But then you also have the rest of the Spriest arsenal with them. I so wish I could have the cosmic blue everywhere and that the Old God Cultist theme was just one possible built instead of every Capstone being themed after an Old God.

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Now that I've seen the strong evidence of Goblins in this expansion, I can't believe I made fun of the forbidden T while he correctly guessed underground, nerubians and Undermine. I'm ready to see tinkers at any time now...

I was a fool...

Everyone guessed Undermine as a possibility. We just did not think it would be an Undermine-focused expac and it is not. If Undermine shows up, it will be middle patch content. It could also be something else that is still goblin; I do think it will be Kezan but e.g. an upgraded Tanarris with Gadzetan would not be crazy.

[Enrif]

Now that I've seen the strong evidence of Goblins in this expansion, I can't believe I made fun of the forbidden T while he correctly guessed underground, nerubians and Undermine. I'm ready to see tinkers at any time now...

I was a fool...

Wait and see. that backpack from Brinthe has no animations. It is a glorified back transmog at the moment. Perhaps Engineers can make it this expansion so everyone can cosplay a tinker?

[allegrian]

It's sad that tinker-friendly expansions always happen just after getting a new class in the previous expansion. The Last Titan is our last hope.

[Nymrohd]

Every day another crazy awakened raid bug. Damn must their code be a mess.

[Hugnomo]

https://twitter.com/wowpetopia/statu...37721133494650

So these bats have the same quills, colors, ears and tusks as the harronir ... Humm.
Maybe a race descended from a bat loa?

[Lady Atia]

https://twitter.com/wowpetopia/statu...37721133494650

So these bats have the same quills, colors, ears and tusks as the harronir ... Humm.
Maybe a race descended from a bat loa?

That's not the kind of bat I wanted to see, ewwww.

[allegrian]

https://twitter.com/wowpetopia/statu...37721133494650

So these bats have the same quills, colors, ears and tusks as the harronir ... Humm.
Maybe a race descended from a bat loa?

We are getting harroni druids for sure. The fun part is that their lore will be more night elven than troll, so we are still getting NE stuff in TWW lol.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I hope next week will have new animations/effects for warrior hero specs affected abilities.

[infinitemeridian]

Idk about those voidweaver animations, they clash with the aesthetic of WoW too much in my opinion. Also, they look more like balance druid animations, not SP.

[Trazzle]

Wait and see. that backpack from Brinthe has no animations. It is a glorified back transmog at the moment. Perhaps Engineers can make it this expansion so everyone can cosplay a tinker?

https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...33593849217204

Red shirt says differently.

[Raetary]

They absolutely do. But then you also have the rest of the Spriest arsenal with them. I so wish I could have the cosmic blue everywhere and that the Old God Cultist theme was just one possible built instead of every Capstone being themed after an Old God.

With how little they deviated from Shadows visuals over the years, i'm just happy that we got something this time around.

I'm still holding out for a potential shadowform makeover,.
The void has had a more varied visual aesthetic for a while now, but this expasion we are getting quite a few more colorations.

[Ersula]

I hope they don't to that "earthen faction" split. Just make the three factions neutral and let you make your earthen's headcanon be whatever you want. Horde earthen make little sense so its better to keep them as "allied individuals" than political affiliations.

It seems like you would need prior faction affiliation to make sense. (For example, I thought Mogu & Tolvir would make sense to join the faction war because their creators hated each other.) It already seems like the Unbound & Oathsworn hate each other, so it would make sense that if the Oathbound join the Alliance, the Unbound would join the horde in reaction, etc.