The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Throren]

Can confirm that all the Earthen leaders are neutral (in fact all are alliance leaning as they become friends with the Bronzebeard family and Anduin via quests)

But ya official no entire faction of Earthen join the horde or alliance, players Earthen are just ones that decide independently to work alongside a chosen faction

[allegrian]

Can confirm that all the Earthen leaders are neutral (in fact all are alliance leaning as they become friends with the Bronzebeard family and Anduin via quests)

But ya official no entire faction of Earthen join the horde or alliance, players Earthen are just ones that decide independently to work alongside a chosen faction

That's the best way to add neutral AR in a faction peace world from now on, specially on AR that have their own neutral kingdom. Too bad a neutral AR player can't just visit both factions for gameplay constraints, maybe they'll change that one day for every race.

[Enrif]

https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...33593849217204

Red shirt says differently.

animated like the murloc baby backpack. it wiggles a bit. They are not animated like arms and legs of NPCs. They just loop their wiggle

[Reive]

SPOILER

https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/statu...90416649032049

is this bronze magic?

[Ersula]

That's the best way to add neutral AR in a faction peace world from now on, specially on AR that have their own neutral kingdom. Too bad a neutral AR player can't just visit both factions for gameplay constraints, maybe they'll change that one day for every race.

I know this is what Dalaran did with the Sunreavers & Silver Covenant, but on a political level was completely crazy. Demonstrably so, since it resulted in mass murder multiple times.

But ya official no entire faction of Earthen join the horde or alliance, players Earthen are just ones that decide independently to work alongside a chosen faction

How can you confirm this is the context Earthen become an allied race? We don't actually know the full storyline yet because you can only do the first half at the moment. Plus Earthen in the Alpha pop up in Org with no opening narration.

[Raetary]

SPOILER

https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/statu...90416649032049

is this bronze magic?

No, it's the Light.

The crystal will periodically fall to the void and return to the Light.

[Nightshade711]

I hope the ‘weakened demon form’ thing for the new DH trees has some visual effect like wings out (like the glyph of demon hunting in MoP) for havoc and permanent demon spikes for vengeance.

[Makabreska]

Next two dungeons:

[Reive]

No, it's the Light.

The crystal will periodically fall to the void and return to the Light.

i just wonder how tho. the magic around it when it reverts back to light looks like bronze magic (in colour).

Next two dungeons:
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both are solid. the kobold dungeon is basically a huge reference to the hearthstone expansion, kobolds and catacombs

[Throren]

How can you confirm this is the context Earthen become an allied race? We don't actually know the full storyline yet because you can only do the first half at the moment. Plus Earthen in the Alpha pop up in Org with no opening narration.

The context for Earthen becoming playable is Magni cleanses and fixes the machine that allows for the awakening of new Earthen. All of the story quests required to unlock Earthen are in alpha already, only thing we are missing is the player Earthen intro.

But no major group joins one side. During the quest, the Bronzebeard family and you the player basically re-unify Earthen society so all the groups are working together and happy with each other now. Adelgon, the leader of the Unbound retakes her former position as Dornogal's Stoneward and takes interim command of Dornogal's military after the Stormward Baelgrim's death. The rest of the Unboudn rejoin the Oathsworn after the Dorn quests. After the RInging Deeps, the Machien Speakers are saved by the Player and the Bronzebeard crew and also rejoin the others now that the coreway is cleared and Brinthe is named High Speaker of the machine speakers after Moira nominated her.

And of course Magni giving up his Azeroth powers to cleanse and repair the Hall of Awakening allowing new Earthen to awaken (this is the last story quest requirement needed to unlock player Earthen)

My guess is newly created Earthen will start her in the Halls of Awakening since that area is its own closed off instanced bit

[allegrian]

Next two dungeons:

In the Darkflame video, you can see at 7:30 how earthen are almost as tall as humans, and an earthen warrior using Avatar is taller.

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The context for Earthen becoming playable is Magni cleanses and fixes the machine that allows for the awakening of new Earthen. All of the story quests required to unlock Earthen are in alpha already, only thing we are missing is the player Earthen intro.

But no major group joins one side. During the quest, the Bronzebeard family and you the player basically re-unify Earthen society so all the groups are working together and happy with each other now. Adelgon, the leader of the Unbound retakes her former position as Dornogal's Stoneward and takes interim command of Dornogal's military after the Stormward Baelgrim's death. The rest of the Unboudn rejoin the Oathsworn after the Dorn quests. After the RInging Deeps, the Machien Speakers are saved by the Player and the Bronzebeard crew and also rejoin the others now that the coreway is cleared and Brinthe is named High Speaker of the machine speakers after Moira nominated her.

And of course Magni giving up his Azeroth powers to cleanse and repair the Hall of Awakening allowing new Earthen to awaken (this is the last story quest requirement needed to unlock player Earthen)

My guess is newly created Earthen will start her in the Halls of Awakening since that area is its own closed off instanced bit

It's similar to the kul tiras story and from what you say they are basically an alliance allied race that is given to the horde with little context for gameplay/balance reasons.

[Raetary]

i just wonder how tho. the magic around it when it reverts back to light looks like bronze magic (in colour).

All Light spells look similar to bronze spells, as hey share a color scheme.

Bronze is made distinct with all the sand effects, of which there are none in the crystal animation.
Its literally just the void effect but painted gold.

Whatever Naaru is stuck in there is just struggling to stay afloat.

[Zardas]

the kobold dungeon is basically a huge reference to the hearthstone expansion, kobolds and catacombs

I haven't watched the video, but if I don't see a carnivorous cube, I riot.

[Samin]

i just wonder how tho. the magic around it when it reverts back to light looks like bronze magic (in colour).

The how is pretty well established through the duality of light in Naaru lore who can turn in "void gods" and it works in reverse as well.

You're not wrong that the effect looks a bit more sand-like, but I don't think it means anything. It could be an intersting twist if timey-wimey is involved. Could. It could also make it a horrible mess.

[Reive]

I haven't watched the video, but if I don't see a carnivorous cube, I riot.

no cube but there's the darkness tho lol

[Ersula]

The context for Earthen becoming playable is Magni cleanses and fixes the machine that allows for the awakening of new Earthen. All of the story quests required to unlock Earthen are in alpha already, only thing we are missing is the player Earthen intro.

But they aren't. It sounds like you only completed part of the story quests. Some of the meta-achievement requisites aren't even in the current build. Clearly there's more context we haven't seen yet.

[Lahis]

What is left of Earthen after you finish your corpse run:

[Throren]

The other requirements seem to be basically get to max level and finish the max level campaign - dont think that will have much bearing on the Earthen story since every lose end and major problem they have is basically resolved after leveling.. Im assuming the United We Stand campaign will be about taking the fight to Xal'atath and the spiders with all the allies we made through the leveling experience so I dont imagine that will have any major story bits dealing with Earthen society

But the end of the day I think its pretty safe to say based on everything else that no entire group or faction of Earthen will straight up leave Khaz Algar and officially join a faction under one fo the main leaders, that def aint happening.

[Viridiel]

There's a mount in the journal on alpha called Armadillo Roller that's using the Mechagon bike as a base just like the dynamic ground mount testing did, alongside an untextured armadillo/pangolin model. That could be our dynamic ground mount.

[Enrif]

SPOILER

https://twitter.com/Stiven_SRB/statu...90416649032049

is this bronze magic?

forget what the others said. This 100% looks like bronze time magic. And it kind of makes sense given what we know about the Arathi and the crystal so far.
The arathi supposedly only arrived rather "recently", and they appeared there by mysterious means, while also having a lot of half-elves? This could mean they are actually from the future, when humans and thalassian elves are friends again, or are directly back from the time of the troll wars, and behind the deal between humans and elves and teaching magic, there was also a more close cultural exchange.

That the crystal will apparently rather frequently turn from light to dark and back. While we know that naaru do that, we have never seen a naaru come back from their void presence on their own. They were always helped (Velen, priest order hall). So, some bronze power user, might stave of the fall of that naaru for the time, but who knows how long they will keep up?