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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    And here I first avoided it to click on the link thanks to Wrath of Aszhara haha.

    Looks great, although no npc's? So it's either on a sandbox or pretty early I guess?
    It was genuinely surprising when it wasn't that. The mention of a webbed up Dalaran sounded especially fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    But what if players gave Xalatath artifcats specifically designed to fight magic in SoD for the expressed purpose of attacking Dalaran 20 years later?
    Given that Dalaran was destroyed in classic, that would be stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegrian View Post
    The leaked zones look super cool, specially the arathi one. Can't wait.

    What class should my Earthen be tho? Shaman or (mountain thane) warrior?
    No idea when these screenshots were taken but they look hella unfinished. Like pre-pre-alpha unfinished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I mean, we literally do not know the context.
    There really doesn’t seem like any context that would make sense after legion unless it’s just like a false vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    The giant cathedral in Hallowfall looks amazing for sure. Really hope we get either a megadungeon, or better still, a raid with that aesthetic.
    The geometric courtyard/amphitheater thing is kinda weird looking though, IMO. It just doesn't mesh right compared to the architecture around it. Maybe it will look better from the player perspective as oppose to birds eye.
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  6. #66886
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Was really disappointed when it was just the same dungeon again but with different bosses. I was sure that the floor would cave in after the first boss or whatever, leading into the Dalaran sewers or something.
    They definitely had plans for the Violet Hold that went awry. I remember seeing stuff indicating there'd be a lot more to it, and the wiki page for it does mention how there's a breach in the floor when you go there in the Hunter class questline that's likely from an earlier version where more happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Given that Dalaran was destroyed in classic, that would be stupid.
    So which is it? Dalaran is too weak or too strong to survive against Nerubians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    In that case, Dalaran delve? Dalaran is pretty small compared to modern dungeons, so maybe Dalaran can just be part of that dungeon, like the Everbloom. Are delves just MoP scenarios? The world may never know.
    Well, they said we will get one special, hidden delve at Blizzcon ...

  9. #66889
    So, when they said the War Within, they really meant the Within part, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    There really doesn’t seem like any context that would make sense after legion unless it’s just like a false vision.
    How? Especially because you act like Dalaran was impenetrable when it almost got destroyed in Deadwind Pass and the whole defense mechanism failed during the Mage Campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    So, when they said the War Within, they really meant the Within part, huh?
    Ummm ye? We descend to the deep depths of Azeroth to fight dem spiders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    There really doesn’t seem like any context that would make sense after legion unless it’s just like a false vision.
    What I suggested was not believable?
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    Question is, how did the Nerubians get all the way up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, it can all be easily explained. Back in Legion Dal was on the frontlines of the war, so it was packed with mages, defensives etc. This time it could be a surprise, sneaky attack using an unfamiliar magics, for example.

    Also Xal could tip Nerubz off on Dals weak points, since it was freely paraded around in Legion.
    Even a surprise attack would be dumb as we set up a ton of automated defences and wards against that sort of thing not to mention the likely hood of new races joining up like the night bourn with there “what are you using” spells at every step.

    They’d have had to take like every thing we did in legion apart to justify it.
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  14. #66894
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    They definitely had plans for the Violet Hold that went awry. I remember seeing stuff indicating there'd be a lot more to it, and the wiki page for it does mention how there's a breach in the floor when you go there in the Hunter class questline that's likely from an earlier version where more happened.
    Definitely a strong possibility. Shame we never got to learn what those plans might have been, especially with the dark secret mentioned.
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  15. #66895
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Question is, how did the Nerubians get all the way up there.
    There are flying Nerubians. Those weird webbed foot spider swarmers.

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    anyone else notice in the background of that dal shot theres no webs?
    it looks to be only in the flight path surrounding area

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    How? Especially because you act like Dalaran was impenetrable when it almost got destroyed in Deadwind Pass and the whole defense mechanism failed during the Mage Campaign.
    I think they mean context of how nerubians/spiders would be attacking it. Dalaran is in the air, the nerubians we are going to encounter live below sea level, in a cave which has 3 other zones/caves and an Earthen city between it and a theoretical placement of Dalaran (if Dalaran comes to Dorne). The only way I could see it happen is if Xal port's the nerubians up via void portals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Ummm ye? We descend to the deep depths of Azeroth to fight dem spiders.
    I didn't even think of all those lil spideys, I mostly just thought of the wars within oneself lol Almost forgot they even had a presence under the surface...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    So which is it? Dalaran is too weak or too strong to survive against Nerubians?
    Classic dalaran to weak, it was rubble being rebuilt.

    Post legion dalaran to strong thanks to all the questing we did to make it so.
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  20. #66900
    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    I think they mean context of how nerubians/spiders would be attacking it. Dalaran is in the air, the nerubians we are going to encounter live below sea level, in a cave which has 3 other zones/caves and an Earthen city between it and a theoretical placement of Dalaran (if Dalaran comes to Dorne). The only way I could see it happen is if Xal port's the nerubians up via void portals.
    I mean, Void Portals are a thing, and we are getting humanoid nerubians anyway so they can just use some kind of flying mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Classic dalaran to weak, it was rubble being rebuilt.

    Post legion dalaran to strong thanks to all the questing we did to make it so.
    How did we make Dalaran strong exactly?

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