The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

So, it goes like this so far:

Isle of Dorn campaign (three chapters, all of the following contain three as well)
Ringing Deeps campaign
Hallowfall campaign
Azj-Kahet campaign
Max level campaign (takes place in the previous zones in mixed order)
The raid story

I personally think it's Azj-Kahet -> Raid -> Max Level, but it's hard to tell, really.

The "The titans don't take kindly to disobedience..." seems to be happening in the max level campaign, which seems to be a hook for a future patch, so it would make more sense to have that post-raid.

[allegrian]

My thoughts exactly. I think its good that old cast spetting aside for that. This time, in TWW we see new face - Dagran II, finishing story of Magni and Moira (I beleive she will gone AFK too). So new faces of new WoW after World Soul Saga, I think will be - Anduin (devs will not throw him aside), Taelia(Jaina step out), Shandris (Tyrande and Malf AFK), Dagran II (Dwarves), Arathor (maybe). If new devs remember that Horde exist too - We will get Zekhan (familiar for Alliance characters, Rokhan will return AFK), Durak with Rehze(Thrall AFKing), Baine (same thing as Anduin, but I rather intoduce new character for Taurens), Calia (maybe Lilian, but again, with current devs - main character will be Calia), Salandria. Maybe Patch team from BfA, they were cool. And with their involvement will "what I am doing even here?" thing.

So for that we have most of characters that are familiar to both faction, much more tolerate for opposing faction, all of them are female or less masculine then my shoe. Perfect ones here, lads. /s

I think the darkspear are inevitably going to be shafted again in midnight in favor of amani, who'll probably get their own cool zone with lots of lore, armor, weapons, mounts, and of course their own new set of character alongside a leader with a custom model.

[Reive]

the plot of the expansion is already spoiled

blizzard messed up hard this time.

[Nymrohd]

I think the darkspear are inevitably going to be shafted again in midnight in favor of amani, who'll probably get their own cool zone with lots of lore, armor, weapons, mounts, and of course their own new set of character alongside a leader with a custom model.

I mean that wouldn't be them getting shafted. The Darkspear have no place in Midnight. The Amani absolutely do.

[allegrian]

I mean that wouldn't be them getting shafted. The Darkspear have no place in Midnight. The Amani absolutely do.

Yeah, but just like the zandalari, the amani will probably have more presence/protagonism in future horde stories as their amani characters and worldbuilding in midnight where much more fleshed out than darkspears before, as well as players being more familiar with them due to the focus in midnight.

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the plot of the expansion is already spoiled

blizzard messed up hard this time.

Doesn't it always happen in alpha/beta? The only difference is that it leaked earlier.

[Raetary]

the plot of the expansion is already spoiled

blizzard messed up hard this time.

Why though?

What got leaked was cutscene and quest descriptions, which would've been available on the alpha anyway.
All that happened was that it got datamined before the respective zone was available for testing.

[Lady Atia]

Yeah, but just like the zandalari, the amani will probably have more presence/protagonism in future horde stories as their amani characters and worldbuilding in midnight where much more fleshed out than darkspears before, as well as players being more familiar with them due to the focus in midnight.

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Doesn't it always happen in alpha/beta? The only difference is that it leaked earlier.

It didn't even leak earlier, usually these strings were always in the first builds.

[Ramz]

The PC hasn't been an agent of their faction for a long, long time, and Legion solidified that.

Actually Legion was the first expansion that pushed this cra and why it sucked ass. Then we went to BfA where we once again faction specific stories. And then we have terrible Shadowlands and terrible soulless DF.

Yeah, sometimes you merc for them, essentially, like in BFA, but you were always an agent for the world rather than the factions. That's literally the point of that one cutscene in BfA.

You can be merc at times but faction stories should be always present. Being merc all the time shows that you don't really have any real agency. You're just character-less mook that will do anything for loot.

Horde would get involved because Azeroth calls out to them ???? What, do you think it would make sense for a Horde character to get called to Silithus and go through the intro and be like "oh no, thrall isn't here, i'll go home, fuck the planet >!".

What an idiotic take. I already said that you can achieve said aim WHILE incoroporating faction story. I even game a clear expample - for the Horde to have their own team that have their own motivations to start campaign - Tauren, because they literally worship Earth mother and she called to them. The last time Tauren as a faction took any initiative on their own was in Mists with Dawnchaser expedition. It's about time they would do something on their own and lead a charge for a change. All while Alliance can prance around with Windrunner and Proudmore. You do you, we do us.
It's really not that hard to gras, and serving Azeroth doesn't have to be exclude serving the Horde.

Like it or not, needing a Horde rep to justify doing something is stupid, as if your characters personality stops at their faction.

No, your take is stupid, because we're playing as a Horde and not as Earthen Ring, or Argent crusade, so the playable faction should have a clearly set narrative.

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Then your tie-in is Thrall, so stop complaining.

Dude, you're the one who had issues with Thrall, I only said that his entire purpose is to serve as a token. Then you pulled out Uldir for some strange reason and said that I should stop complaining.

[Reive]

Why though?

What got leaked was cutscene and quest descriptions, which would've been available on the alpha anyway.
All that happened was that it got datamined before the respective zone was available for testing.

It didn't even leak earlier, usually these strings were always in the first builds.

they put so much effort to encrypt certain questlines in dragonflight. no way they wanted people to find about the story of what are according to them 3 story heavy expansions before the release

[Lady Atia]

they put so much effort to encrypt certain questlines in dragonflight. no way they wanted people to find about the story of what are according to them 3 story heavy expansions before the release

You are aware that EVERYTHING about what got leaked will be available on alpha anyways? It's just the level up story, no one cares about that. Or did you think they would just blank out quest texts, lol?

[Nathanyel]

the plot of the expansion is already spoiled

Of 11.0, not the entire expansion. And as others mentioned, this happened in previous alphas as well. Always with the doomsaying...

[Raetary]

they put so much effort to encrypt certain questlines in dragonflight. no way they wanted people to find about the story of what are according to them 3 story heavy expansions before the release

Did something else get leaked?

All i remember is that Icyveins datamined 11.0 cutscene descriptions, which again, are going to be available on the alpha anyway.
The Ringing Deeps and Isle of Dorne cutscenes are already available.

[Cherry123]

The general plot description for Hallowfall (mainly, for its first and third chapters) was found.

https://i.imgur.com/He9po40.png

It seems that Faerin and Anduin will spend the entire thing side by side.

So Anduin is dead? Cool. Having two inclusive characters in the same frame would resonate too much.

[Foolicious]

I personally think it's Azj-Kahet -> Raid -> Max Level, but it's hard to tell, really.

The "The titans don't take kindly to disobedience..." seems to be happening in the max level campaign, which seems to be a hook for a future patch, so it would make more sense to have that post-raid.

Wouldn't be the first time raid and max level story would be available at different times, but canonically happen at the same time so i wouldn't read too much into it.

[Zers Editor]

So Anduin is dead?

Captured. And it doesn't last too long, judging by one of the max level story cutscenes mentioning the "prisoners escaping", although it can be anyone.

[Civciv]

So Anduin is dead? Cool. Having two inclusive characters in the same frame would resonate too much.

What are you even talking about lol

[Hitei]

What are you even talking about lol

The guy is genuinely obsessed. He can't go more than a post or two without screeching about Anduin or soyboys or some other such shit.

[Varodoc]

Anduin will be the Main Character of the entire Saga. I predict that TLT will conclude with Anduin becoming the steward of the World-Soul.

In many ways, Anduin Wrynn is the MC of all of Modern WoW.




But, mind you, this is different from Garrosh/Sylvanas/Thrall. Because it actually makes sense for Anduin to have so much spotlight...

[Eurhetemec]

What are you even talking about lol

I am also boggling at this bizarre phrase. Especially as Anduin, of all people, seems to be being labelled "inclusive". Does "inclusive" just mean "anyone looks under 30 years old" now?

[Cherry123]

Captured. And it doesn't last too long, judging by one of the max level story cutscenes mentioning the "prisoners escaping", although it can be anyone.

And here he is again, the princess in prison. I wonder if there will be an orc who will become his new father? (c) Christie Golden... The spiders had one job to bite off his head but the plot armor saves him again