The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Annihilas]

Turalyon is Lightforged. Alleria is Void touched. They go boom if they touch.

What happens when they...

[Varodoc]

You know, sometimes I think that this playerbase doesn't deserve a complex story.

"B-BUT D-DISCIPLINE PRIESTS!!!!!"

My Goodness, just enjoy the complex story of a mother who wants to spend more time with her son, but is physically incapable of doing so due to dangerous powers that she was bestowed with.

Why are Millennial viewers/readers are always so hung up on irrelevant and trivial details that no one cares about and have no relevance to the story (like Discipline Priests)? It's like they can't just enjoy the story and be done with it, No, they NEED to find holes within that story, even when there are none.

Just enjoy the most complex in the last 10 years of WoW, that of Alleria and her affliction. A story that isn't about big monster explosion, but something more complicated and realistic.

[Ksgrip]

What happens when they...

The sweetest type of explosion. Wait that is actually a great fanfic idea xD

[Pyrophax]

Wasn't that only Void and Light magic exploding on contact and wasn't Discipline using only Shadow?

Literally combining both schools

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You know, sometimes I think that this playerbase doesn't deserve a complex story.

"B-BUT D-DISCIPLINE PRIESTS!!!!!"

My Goodness, just enjoy the complex story of a mother who wants to spend more time with her son, but is physically incapable of doing so due to dangerous powers that she was bestowed with.

Why are Millennial viewers/readers are always so hung up on irrelevant and trivial details that no one cares about and have no relevance to the story (like Discipline Priests)? It's like they can't just enjoy the story and be done with it, No, they NEED to find holes within that story, even when there are none.

Just enjoy the most complex in the last 10 years of WoW, that of Alleria and her affliction. A story that isn't about big monster explosion, but something more complicated and realistic.

You literally said that WoW lore is not complex and very simple, to not bother find layers.

And if

details that no one cares about

There was no conversation, yes?

[Varodoc]

You literally said that WoW lore is not complex and very simple, to not bother find layers.

Lore =/= Story.

The Lore of Warcraft is simple. There was this well that blew up 10,000 years ago and 10,000 years later the orcs are invading.

The Story itself can be multi-layered, but sadly people would rather talk about Discipline Priests in a cinematic about Alleria and Khadgar ?????

[Pyrophax]

Lore =/= Story.

The Lore of Warcraft is simple. There was this well that blew up 10,000 years ago and 10,000 years later the orcs are invading.

The Story itself can be multi-layered, but sadly people would rather talk about Discipline Priests in a cinematic about Alleria and Khadgar ?????

And what is the theme of that conversation you propose? Its rather simple and understandable cinematic, we discussed new models, info from it is not spoilery, what do you propose? And most of it - there

[Raetary]

Wasn't that only Void and Light magic exploding on contact and wasn't Discipline using only Shadow?

Shadow and Void are interchangable names for the same thing.

[Varodoc]

And what is the theme of that conversation you propose? Its rather simple and understandable cinematic, we discussed new models, info from it is not spoilery, what do you propose? And most of it - there

That it's tragic how Alleria at the end of Legion wanted to spend more time with Arator, her son that she never saw grow up, but that she cannot do so because of outside circumstances.

That it's tragic how, one of the few times Alleria and Arator are shown together, it's in that Corrupted vision where Alleria sacrifices Arator to the Old God.

That it must be difficult for Alleria and Khadgar to come to terms with modern-day Azeroth, which changed so much in the 30 or so years since the Second War.

"Complex" doesn't mean that you have to take a math quiz to understand it.

[Makorus]

I might be stupid, but where does this "Light and Void touching creates an explosion" come from?

I know Fel and Void created an explosion, but I can't really remember an explicit mention about Void/Light

[Makabreska]

I might be stupid, but where does this "Light and Void touching creates an explosion" come from?

I know Fel and Void created an explosion, but I can't really remember an explicit mention about Void/Light

The moment Void-touched Alleria visited Sunwell.

Beside, some mentions in the books and whatnot. Maybe not a literal explosion, but a volatile reaction.

[Makorus]

The moment Void-touched Alleria visited Sunwell.

Beside, some mentions in the books and whatnot. Maybe not a literal explosion, but a volatile reaction.

I mean, I don't think Alleria touching the Sunwell was necessarily a reaction between the Light and the Void meeting, but the Sunwell being special and the Void wanting access.

[Raetary]

I might be stupid, but where does this "Light and Void touching creates an explosion" come from?

I know Fel and Void created an explosion, but I can't really remember an explicit mention about Void/Light

Chronicle 1 and A Thousand Years of War.
Both describe instances of the Light and Void coming into contact, becoming unstable and releasing a fuckton of energy.

Even in-game we saw Allerias contact with the Sunwell caused it to destabilize and allow that group of Void Ethereals to invade.

[Pyrophax]

That it's tragic how Alleria at the end of Legion wanted to spend more time with Arator, her son that she never saw grow up, but that she cannot do so because of outside circumstances.

That it's tragic how, one of the few times Alleria and Arator are shown together, it's in that Corrupted vision where Alleria sacrifices Arator to the Old God.

That it must be difficult for Alleria and Khadgar to come to terms with modern-day Azeroth, which changed so much in the 30 or so years since the Second War.

"Complex" doesn't mean that you have to take a math quiz to understand it.

And that thread should be in Lore sub-forum. I remind you, its next content speculation thread, not about Alleria feeling about her choice to abandon her son. Same as Turalions actually.
And btw - what

That it must be difficult for Alleria and Khadgar to come to terms with modern-day Azeroth, which changed so much in the 30 or so years since the Second War.

you mean? That was not in cinematic to discuss that.
Should it be? I think it should be not in promo for next patch. in book - ok, in short story - yes, ingame "stay awhile and listen" conversation - yup. But not in promo cinematic for patch.

[Varodoc]

Complicated and realistic?

The point is not that Alleria is an uber-powered Void being. It's that she is a mother who unfortunately cannot spend more time with her family. That is a realistic story.

Much more than the nonsense between Sylvanas and Anduin in SL.

But people have always been biased towards Sylvanas. Back in SL/2021, whenever there was a new Sylvanas cinematic, everyone was always talking about Sylvanas.

Now finally Alleria gets one cinematic centred around her, and everyone talks about Discipline Priests or random explosions.

[Makabreska]

But people have always been biased towards Sylvanas. Back in SL/2021, whenever there was a new Sylvanas cinematic, everyone was always talking about Sylvanas.

SO weird that people were talking about a character who just had a new cinematic!

[Pyrophax]

The point is not that Alleria is an uber-powered Void being. It's that she is a mother who unfortunately cannot spend more time with her family. That is a realistic story.

Much more than the nonsense between Sylvanas and Anduin in SL.

But people have always been biased towards Sylvanas. Back in SL/2021, whenever there was a new Sylvanas cinematic, everyone was always talking about Sylvanas.

Now finally Alleria gets one cinematic centred around her, and everyone talks about Discipline Priests or random explosions.

And that was not in cinematic.
All of that was
"Hey old friend, how you, good?"
"Hey, I'm fine"
"Look, help with that whispers, we don't know shit about it, you are expert in Void shit"
"oki-doki".
That is all.
Not about "mother who unfortunately cannot spend more time with her family" and 10minutes talks like at therapy. That is not belong to speculation thread.
If you wanna talk about Alleria - you can start thread in Lore sub-forum and go wild.

[Varodoc]

SO weird that people were talking about a character who just had a new cinematic!

Alleria and Khadgar just have a new cinematic.

Why are you not talking about Alleria and Khadgar?

[Makabreska]

Alleria and Khadgar just have a new cinematic.

Why are you not talking about Alleria and Khadgar?

Because I don't have to. There is like zero rules telling me what I have to talk about from the cinematic. If peeps feel like talking about X character, then they will. If they don't, they don't have to.

I know that it irks you greatly that people don't want to spend as much time as you do on certain characters, but there is zero you can do about it.

[Raetary]

Alleria and Khadgar just have a new cinematic.

Why are you not talking about Alleria and Khadgar?

Probably because nothing really happens in the cutscene and thereby there isn't much to discuss?

It's a 2 minute long conversation where Alleria picks up a quest.
Everything that could be said about it has already been said.

[Ersula]

The moment Void-touched Alleria visited Sunwell.

Except it didn't explode: It turned the sunwell into a portal to the deepest void, just like with Kiljaeden & fel. That just means Alleria got that gorrilla grip voidussy