The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hitei]

i mean, this is a good argument for Magni not being able to hear the song. And, he was made a pawn... a pawn of the titans. But until we know further, it could be either, or both. Perhaps he did hear azereoth, because the titan machinery is linked to azeroth, but without the titan machines he can't any longer. Like, a phone call to the soul, but the phone provider went dark.

I don't disagree that the Radiant Song might not actually be Azeroth, for the record, it could very well be anything. I just wanted to point out that Magni is a biased source and there's a certain amount of gullibility in taking his "I'm talking directly to Azeroth and she says X" as reliable facts. So him not hearing anything now doesn't really tell us much about who is speaking.

[Nere]

i'm talking about features and system changes. reading the interviews it's clear that tww is going to be another "safe" expansion gameplay wise

Warbands are going to be revolutionary for playing alts and delves are going to be a main pillar for more casual players and outworld content in particular. Like what features and system changes were you expecting?

[Enrif]

I don't disagree that the Radiant Song might not actually be Azeroth, for the record, it could very well be anything. I just wanted to point out that Magni is a biased source and there's a certain amount of gullibility in taking his "I'm talking directly to Azeroth and she says X" as reliable facts. So him not hearing anything now doesn't really tell us much about who is speaking.

Sure, you point was good. But i think there can be made a case for magni actaully being able to hear world souls. We went with him to argus, and he was able to hear argus, while not having any titan machinery for him to "plug in"

[Bluespiderman57]

I expected to wake up to juicy 11.0 news
Instead, I wake up to Blizzard destroying Dalaran, my favourite city in WoW and where all my RP is based

I'm not well folks T-T

Ah yes, the city of Dalaran. I knew her well in my youth. From her glittering towers, brimming with power and knowledge, to the cozy shops of the commerce exchange, even now those memories flow through my mind like water in a stream. However, like a modern-medieval-fantasy-streampunk Icarus, she flew too high…… and was hit by a big rock and blowed up.

[Darkarath]

I think delves are the most underwhelming thing so far i saw from all the previews and content creators that played the alpha.

Other thing for me are hero talents which are 50/50, because i hoped for more visual changes to go with the hero spec "fantasy", some have more and others have hardly anything new going on.

Still, it's the beginning of alpha, so i hope people will give some feedback about it.

Delves are just not evaluable yet. When we play them at max level we will really know how good (or bad) they are.

Without a doubt I would say that the Hero Talents system is going to be the main problem of TWW, at least in its current iteration. I guess that interviews are still coming today and tomorrow, but the fact that they weren't practically mentioned is interesting. Every video that I have watched about Alpha barely talk about them, which I guess that makes sense because they need a lot of testing. Still, I find it curious.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Ah yes, the city of Dalaran. I knew her well in my youth. From her glittering towers, brimming with power and knowledge, to the cozy shops of the commerce exchange, even now those memories flow through my mind like water in a stream. However, like a modern-medieval-fantasy-streampunk Icarus, she flew too high…… and was hit by a big rock and blowed up.

*melts down further into a puddle of flesh, flashy cloth and arcane residue*

[Nymrohd]

Delves are just not evaluable yet. When we play them at max level we will really know how good (or bad) they are.

Without a doubt I would say that the Hero Talents system is going to be the main problem of TWW, at least in its current iteration. I guess that interviews are still coming today and tomorrow, but the fact that they weren't practically mentioned is interesting. Every video that I have watched about Alpha barely talk about them, which I guess that makes sense because they need a lot of testing. Still, I find it curious.

Hero talents are nothing more than an extension of the talent system

[Zers Editor]

Just finished re-reading The Shattering.

I wonder if Faerin will essentially be Aerin 2.0 for Anduin this expansion, as in it will be a comparison brought up by Anduin directly, given that the books are getting integrated into the game's story quite heavily lately.

[Darkarath]

Hero talents are nothing more than an extension of the talent system

A very powerful extension of the talent system indeed. For now, it seems that fantasy wise it would not carry much weight, which is good and bad at the same time.

Another thing that bothers me is that, if I understood correctly, the Warband system will not make account-wide achievements related to killing raid or dungeon bosses in a certain way. A major fuck up IMO, as there are achievements that require an specific class to do, or a healer, for instance. I would allow that they will not make those TWW's achievements account-wide at first. But the ones from older expansions? Why not?

[Nathanyel]

We do get a portal in a form of a mist. Delves ARE instanced zones. W/e Blizz may say about seamlessness, we still need some kind of teleporting.

https://i.imgur.com/125CEHZ.png

Ah yes, to be expected. Still, more immersive than plain dungeon portals with a loading screen.

There also isn't a regular Arathi model yet. Everyone just has a helmet on.

Considering the only Arathi we've seen without a helmet, Faerin, what if every Arathi has a damaged/missing eye? What if they're actually from the Warlands timeline? (joking)

[username993720]

Moira son finally grown up:

They just had to make him look like that.
Probably based on one of the developers. They're so narcissistic.

[Skildar]

They just had to make him look like that.
Probably based on one of the developers. They're so narcissistic.

What I find pretty weird with his design is that he doesn't bear the colours of the dark irons or the the ones of the bronzebeard and I was expecting a mix of both

[Hitei]

They just had to make him look like that.
Probably based on one of the developers. They're so narcissistic.

You think one of the developers is a grey-skinned dwarf with white hair and glowing orange eyes?

[Skildar]

I don't disagree that the Radiant Song might not actually be Azeroth, for the record, it could very well be anything. I just wanted to point out that Magni is a biased source and there's a certain amount of gullibility in taking his "I'm talking directly to Azeroth and she says X" as reliable facts. So him not hearing anything now doesn't really tell us much about who is speaking.

Radiant song got me thinking of the first ones. ^^'

[Makorus]

A very powerful extension of the talent system indeed. For now, it seems that fantasy wise it would not carry much weight, which is good and bad at the same time.

Another thing that bothers me is that, if I understood correctly, the Warband system will not make account-wide achievements related to killing raid or dungeon bosses in a certain way. A major fuck up IMO, as there are achievements that require an specific class to do, or a healer, for instance. I would allow that they will not make those TWW's achievements account-wide at first. But the ones from older expansions? Why not?

Every achievement is gonna count account-wide for points and metas, however, they will show up as uncompleted in your achievement journal for characters that didn't do it. There will probably be a filter that toggles between character completion and warband completion (I think there is something like that already for account-wide achievements in current WoW)

[Hitei]

What I find pretty weird with his design is that he doesn't bear the colours of the dark irons or the the ones of the bronzebeard and I was expecting a mix of both

I think they're tapping into his mother's look. Most of her in-game appearances have had her wearing dark purple robes, so they leaned into the purple and black.

[Dracullus]

I expected to wake up to juicy 11.0 news
Instead, I wake up to Blizzard destroying Dalaran, my favourite city in WoW and where all my RP is based

I'm not well folks T-T

Story need meaningful loses like Broken Shore to progress and remain interesting.

Literally since BfA we had too many fake ones - like defeating Mekkatorque-- oh wait he escaped, maybe Jain-- nope, Azshara? Escaped. Literally all interesting stuff happening in 8.3 - N'zoth Illusion. Then SL/DF was either completely new lore (Shadowland realms, Primalists) and when once we dealt with someone we knew - Sylvanas... she didn't die either. We only got to N'zoth and even that is contested pretty often by community, cause happened in weird nightmare realm, not him on Azeroth attacking places we know.

And it was same other way. What important good guy died since 7.0? And it was literally 8 years ago.

Every achievement is gonna count account-wide for points and metas, however, they will show up as uncompleted in your achievement journal for characters that didn't do it. There will probably be a filter that toggles between character completion and warband completion (I think there is something like that already for account-wide achievements in current WoW)

They said that? That would be step back for me. Jesus, every time I hope they are going full in with account wide stuff..

[Reive]

You think one of the developers is a grey-skinned dwarf with white hair and glowing orange eyes?

dagran looks like a soyboy, and you can bet that at least one of the devs looks like that

[Darkarath]

Every achievement is gonna count account-wide for points and metas, however, they will show up as uncompleted in your achievement journal for characters that didn't do it. There will probably be a filter that toggles between character completion and warband completion (I think there is something like that already for account-wide achievements in current WoW)

Yeah but I think that that's how it works today for those achievements. The hope was that all of them will be ''blue''. Minor complaint about a wonderful system I guess, but it just does not make much sense to me. Same with the restrictions about not being able to collect other classes tier sets. Do not see the point about that limitation.

[Cherry123]

Just finished re-reading The Shattering.

I wonder if Faerin will essentially be Aerin 2.0 for Anduin this expansion, as in it will be a comparison brought up by Anduin directly, given that the books are getting integrated into the game's story quite heavily lately.

A waste of Velen potential, Her voice is still young and soft, although I thought that she would have a smoky voice judging by her face. And in the alpha scenarios, she and Anduin constantly interact, judging by the scripts, which frustrates me even more.