The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Reive]

let's end this dargan parenthesis and talk about something else

i kinda liked the video about delves. them not being static is a big plus for their replayability. my only wish is that the higher tiers (8-11+12) are challenging enough

[Khaza-R]

I fail to see how glasses are an issue when the Dark Iron are capable of building mole machines, golems and massive explosives. They are one of the more advanced societies on Azeroth.

As for his personality. What are you expecting? He's like 15-16 years old in TWW. He's either going to be a nerd or a goober.

[Nymrohd]

Coincidently if they had diversified Torghast content a bit more & had it give actual gear rewards like delves do, it would have been much more popular. I bet it will in Shadowlands: Remix

The thing is, that's how it was supposed to work. If you go back to the SL reveal video they expressly said it would reward gear through the Vault. But they scrapped that.

[Sondrelk]

Honestly while I am someone who enjoys spoilers, every single alpha/beta before where we got pretty much every string at the very first build created so many false impressions because quotes were taken out of context (or even never made it in game since their quests got scrapped) that I think silence is better.

We are still at the point where we mostly just see the choice bits of new content. The armour sets or new mounts. In a week or so I bet we will be getting into the weeds with datamined quest strings and such.

[Lahis]

I can understand wanting more masculine male characters, and being disappointed with Dagran, but that's a really weird way to go about it yeah.

He's not even portrayed as weak or whiny from what I've seen.

Has Dagran fought in the Alpha? He gives me some serious wizard vibes.

[Xilurm]

Dagran seems respectful. He's going to be like Brann I bet, and we all like Brann.

[Aucald]

I'm not sure why people are so taken aback by the appearance of young Dagran - we've known since Before the Storm that the kid was bookish and gawky, and it was further established in The Vow Eternal that he was introspective and lonely growing up, and is even shown chatting with Arator the Redeemer and closely observing a ceremonial blade that he was wearing at the time. Dagran's model as bespectacled and looking like an up-and-coming sage or wizard seems to be in keeping with all his prior characterization.

It's not some weird agenda out of nowhere, in other words - Dagran's basic character has been this way for nearly 6 years at this point.

[Zelk]

There's literally nothing modern about his model whatsoever. Glasses are over 1000 years old and people have been cutting hair short far, far longer than that (obviously)

[Marlamin]

Is there like a site where we can see the whole map? Like we could on Marlamins site?
Pretty curious to look at those

https://old.wow.tools/maps/2601/

Updated it for 11.0 because I also needed it and no alternatives are available yet.

[Vakir]

That's the character that made me start having this issue. At least she ain't a huge character and they added her in WoW because of Hearthstone yeah...

But come on, Elves in general are magical creatures that should have insanely good eyesight. Putting glasses on them feels so silly.

Some people do like them for aesthetic choices and I like her overall design? But I get it.

Same way some characters wear certain types of robes or higher coverage when it isn't really necessarily anything important in terms of climate or the like. "Costume as characterization"

There's literally nothing modern about his model whatsoever. Glasses are over 1000 years old and people have been cutting hair short far, far longer than that (obviously)

It's increasingly difficult to read the "dev self insert" rhetoric in good faith when it's applied to the fucking Dracthyr visages, which were jokingly compared to drag queens from Day 1 and none of which resemble the average employee of literally any company outside of occasionally unorthodox hair color.

They know exactly what they mean when they say it and know they're factually wrong. But California bad, culture war go unga unga

[Cheezits]

I forgot about Arator, he will definitely appear for obvious reasons.

Of the "young crew" am I missing anyone?

Dagran
Durak
Arator (not really young young but fits the bill imo)
Li Li (? I heard she maybe has an encrypted model?)
Liadrin's adopted daughter (forget her name)
The Draenei Orphan (forget her name and current status)

[doledippers]

season 4 looks like a fat L. it takes 2 weeks to get a single item, and theres so many cosmetics to buy too. Also no way to get them from m+

i was decently looking forward to season 4, but now im just completely turned off. what a shame

[Reive]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/herbali...eed-and-338797

i'm curious about this farming minigame. i hope it's similar to the one in mop or even better!

[Lahis]

https://old.wow.tools/maps/2601/

Updated it for 11.0 because I also needed it and no alternatives are available yet.

Hmm. So none of the zones are really on top of each other? Besides the aboveground island that I presume is on top of the mine zone on the right?

[Nymrohd]

Giant roots protruding from the direction were the obvious patch zone is.

Why is there so much green in the ringing depths? I get Hallowfall but why elsewhere?

[Vakir]

I forgot about Arator, he will definitely appear for obvious reasons.

Of the "young crew" am I missing anyone?

Dagran
Durak
Arator (not really young young but fits the bill imo)
Li Li (? I heard she maybe has an encrypted model?)
Liadrin's adopted daughter (forget her name)
The Draenei Orphan (forget her name and current status)

Salandria and Dornaa.

Feels like the inevitable Young Avengers pool groomed for the next 20 years. Hopefully none of them as boring as the current Anduin satellites.

[Cherry123]

Why is he a nerd and not a gigachad like his father? because Christy Golden wrote it. Dagran Thaurissan ii in her books he was described as a gentle man who loves knowledge and archaeology. It's funny how I was a fan of Golden when I read her book about Arthas. I felt the same Warcraft and not Softcraft. But something went wrong

[Ersula]

Why is he a nerd and not a gigachad like his father? because

He's 16 years old. Especially 16 for a Dwarf is the equivalent for like a 5 year old human. There are no 16 year old "chads" despite what your high school experience might tell you.

[Cherry123]

He's 16 years old. There are no 16 year old "chads" despite what your high school experience might tell you.

Arthas is gigachad, he was already crushing skulls at the age of 19. If you are soy at 16, you will be soy at 50. Anduin proved it.

[Cheezits]

The root area feels like an inevitable Mechagon Vault-level patch teaser. Plus if you read the lore book then you know what's going on. There's even a little pathway to nowhere in the back.

Salandria and Dornaa.

Feels like the inevitable Young Avengers pool groomed for the next 20 years. Hopefully none of them as boring as the current Anduin satellites.

Thanks. I also forgot about Zekhan and Vereesa's twins, and we can throw Taelia in there too.