The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Holdodlig]

I will still hope that Khadgar somehow managed to port part of Dalaran elsewhere.

It was the place where the portal room were and where the pillars of creation were kept. If I had to guess, I'd say that Khadgar and the council of six (if they were still alive at the end of the battle) ported the tower out of the city.

[Foolicious]

Dornogal is better for two reasons imo:

1. More open, less cluttered
2. Architecture feels more real. Valdrakken and Thraldraszus do what Shadowlands do: introduce something new and alien we're not familiar with, and go 110% with it

Also valdrakken doesn't feel like a dragon city at all. I always disliked that is was build like every other human city and had nothing really special about it.

[Makorus]

Dornogal is better for two reasons imo:

1. More open, less cluttered
2. Architecture feels more real. Valdrakken and Thraldraszus do what Shadowlands do: introduce something new and alien we're not familiar with, and go 110% with it

How does Valdrakken feel "new and alien"?

[Nymrohd]

How does Valdrakken feel "new and alien"?

Yeah, Valdrakken looks like a generic fantasy city with a very big tower in the middle. The only thing that gives dragon is all the perches. Not that I know how a city for dragon that actually operate in dragon form would look tbh.

[Murlocos]

So much energy spent on this Dagran nonsense when the real tragedy is the return of Rannan Korren.

[Nymrohd]

So much energy spent on this Dagran nonsense when the real tragedy is the return of Rannan Korren.

Yikes they brought that buffoon back? Did they think that NPC was well received?

[Ersula]

So much energy spent on this Dagran nonsense when the real tragedy is the return of Rannan Korren.

I've only seen him in the context of bringing the adventurer's league into this expansion. I see his entire existence being that having Reno Jackson stand around in one spot all expansion wouldn't make sense.

[Gurahk]

So much energy spent on this Dagran nonsense when the real tragedy is the return of Rannan Korren.

Yup, if anyone's a dev self insert it's definitely Rannan.

[Worldshaper]

How does Valdrakken feel "new and alien"?

The entire style of Thaldraszus is quite strange.

It doesn't really look like anything we've seen in Azeroth before, and it's mostly just strange towers, pillars, minarets, etc. Basically no homes. It doesn't feel lived in. Valdrakken itself has an odd layout with utilitarian buildings dotted around these central towers.

There's a pub, at least.

I really liked Valdrakken when it was new, but this singing feeling of it feeling hollow has grown over time.

[milkmustache]

I've only seen him in the context of bringing the adventurer's league into this expansion. I see his entire existence being that having Reno Jackson stand around in one spot all expansion wouldn't make sense.

By Adventurer's League do you mean Dragonscale Expedition? Cause boy would I love a reskin of the Expedition.

[Ersula]

By Adventurer's League do you mean Dragonscale Expedition? Cause boy would I love a reskin of the Expedition.

It's the same thing. I don't see it being called that anymore because the Dragonscale expedition is over.

[Skildar]

Agreed, variety is always a good thing.

Do we know what age dwarves generally begin growing beards? Assuming it's a puberty thing like in humans, if he's in his teens he should have some growth - granted he's also a dwarf, a race know for beard genetics, so he should have something by now; maybe he's just chosen to keep it shaved?

It doesn't say on the warcrfat.wiki page but Dagran has white hair when none of his parents do, so I'm willing to bet that genetics and puberty will be special for him

[Lady Atia]

By Adventurer's League do you mean Dragonscale Expedition? Cause boy would I love a reskin of the Expedition.

The expedition goes with us to Khaz Algar.

[Skildar]

So much energy spent on this Dagran nonsense when the real tragedy is the return of Rannan Korren.

I despise the voice acting for this character, it seems that I cannot shut him up quickly enough everytime I hover over one of his world quests

[Ersula]

It doesn't say on the warcrfat.wiki page but Dagran has white hair when none of his parents do, so I'm willing to bet that genetics and puberty will be special for him

Considering his baby form had white skin & gold hair, yes. We literally have no information on the lifestages of Dwarves in this setting. "Surely he should have a beard by now" isn't based on anything.

[Cheezits]

I despise the voice acting for this character, it seems that I cannot shut him up quickly enough everytime I hover over one of his world quests

If Rannan was meant to have THAT voice, he should not be a human. He already looks ridiculous but the voice does not match, at all.

If they are going to introduce "softer" human men they really need a new body type. It didn't work when Anduin shifted to BFA either.

[Ersula]

If Rannan was meant to have THAT voice, he should not be a human. He already looks ridiculous but the voice does not match, at all.

(NPC with a normal human voice made by a human)
This community: "sus"

[Cheezits]

(NPC with a normal human voice made by a human)
This community: "sus"

Human men in Warcraft do not look like normal people, since WoD they are cavemen with giant arms.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

So much energy spent on this Dagran nonsense when the real tragedy is the return of Rannan Korren.

It's one of the characters i really hated even hearing for few seconds.

Second one is the dwarf Toddy whiskers.

I dunno, they really made them really quirky that makes my ears bleed.

[Ersula]

Human men in Warcraft do not look like normal people, since WoD they are cavemen with giant arms.

"Since WoD" what? Since always. Because it's a very stylized game. Humans are still supposed to represent humans, they're not aliens by another name.

Why does this always happen? Despite all racial, cultural & individual characterization (for all fantasy races) being based on real life human beings, people start making wild statements about seeing human characteristics & archetypes in fantasy settings.