The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

Yeah but if 11.1 isn't on the roadmap, it's absolutely not coming out in 2024. You're either getting a long af period of nothing to do but timerunning, of a long af period to do nothing but the pre-patch event, or a long af TWW season 1.

I mean, Winter starts in late December.

Even if we are going by your estimations (which are very generous), and the game comes out on the 6th of August, Season 1 doesn't start until the 20th.

Let's say S2 comes out on the 7th of January, that's 20 weeks, which is completely within normal season times, if not even a bit short. I don't see the problem? S1 DF was 20 weeks. Typical seasons are around 24 weeks anyway

[Lady Atia]

Because the PvP people would throw a fit if seasons were that short. It would make sense to lower the prereq for elite gear but if you lowered them much from where they are now, everyone would get them that season. Thus no longer making them elitist.

Why? Just make seasons more inflated lol. Also, they already said that battleground blitz will be the new "prime" rated pvp anyways, and right now we don't even know how easy you can climb there but I can't imagine it's too hard if you look at solo shuffle.


Also lmao, elite sets are no longer "elitist" anymore my friend.

[Makorus]

Why? Just make seasons more inflated lol. Also, they already said that battleground blitz will be the new "prime" rated pvp anyways, and right now we don't even know how easy you can climb there but I can't imagine it's too hard if you look at solo shuffle.


Also lmao, elite sets are no longer "elitist" anymore my friend.

I mean, they already are inflating Rating anyway based on how many people are a specific rating, they clearly don't care about inflating it.

[Reive]

Yeah, but this was back before the alpha was revealed & now we know how much is actually in the pre-patch in relation to speculation. If I had to revise it:

04/17: TWW Alpha
04/23: Dragonflight Season 4
05/07: Dark Heart 10.2.7

06/04: TWW Beta
06/25: TWW Pre-Patch 11.0

8/06: The War Within Release.
11/12: 20th Anniversary Event 11.0.5

Though that still means a much longer patch cadence post TWW based on the 2024 roadmap. Apparently season 1 is going to be at least 5 and a half months? Either they're dropping season 4s all together or you 18 month-long expansion theorists are wrong (I think 20 months is the very shortest they will ever go for an expansion)
Though you might say this is supposed to be the duration of 10.2.7 to 11.0 which would also be as insane as my initial estimate.

they're never going to release the expansion at the start of august. the first 2 weeks of that month are usually holiday time for the devs (and people in general). early september is the best estimate

[Lady Atia]

I mean, they already are inflating Rating anyway based on how many people are a specific rating, they clearly don't care about inflating it.

Tbf, this season people complained a lot that it wasn't inflated enough :P


At the end of the day, pvp will florish if MORE people can get the shiny stuff, not less.

[Foolicious]

I read some comments that most hero talents visuals, animations, sounds are not in yet, because it's the biggest thing so far, that players and content creators have problem with.

Hopefully it's true and every hero spec will actually feel different when it comes to visual side.

It's even in the alpha patchnotes that animations are still to come or are unfinished. There are also some interviews that hype the animations or say that visuals play a huge part in hero talents. So im somewhat optimistic.
Remains to be seen if thats true though and how good they really are.

[Cheezits]

PVP is so dead that they are killing RBGs outside of Blitz. They do not care.

If anything they will focus on Plunderstorm/whatever it will be called moving forward and maybe add a battle pass to blitz/shuffle.

[Makorus]

PVP is so dead that they are killing RBGs outside of Blitz. They do not care.

If anything they will focus on Plunderstorm/whatever it will be called moving forward and maybe add a battle pass to blitz/shuffle.

Blitz just makes more sense than RBGs. People kept asking for Solo Queue for RBGs, here we have it.

[Cheezits]

Blitz just makes more sense than RBGs. People kept asking for Solo Queue for RBGs, here we have it.

I am really curious how many wins you'll need for vicious through blitz. Because SS took forever.

[Ersula]

I mean, Winter starts in late December.

Even if we are going by your estimations (which are very generous), and the game comes out on the 6th of August, Season 1 doesn't start until the 20th.

Let's say S2 comes out on the 7th of January, that's 20 weeks, which is completely within normal season times, if not even a bit short. I don't see the problem? S1 DF was 20 weeks. Typical seasons are around 24 weeks anyway

That does make sense, considering they're going back to doing the 2 week launch pause on the season starting.

[Reive]

they said in a recent interview (about tww) that they to make seasons last 5 months. if the expansion comes out at the start of september, 11.1 should be out by the end of february

[Ersula]

they're never going to release the expansion at the start of august. the first 2 weeks of that month are usually holiday time for the devs (and people in general). early september is the best estimate

I'm thinking September is more likely too. Though that's a pretty long time for to just do season 4, timerunning & the pre-patch event, when only one of those things is actually new content. And don't count anything out considering BFA was released early August & they released 10.2 right before blizzcon.

But that would mean the anniversary event is coming out less than 6 weeks after launch considering it can't come out after the actual anniversary: That's unusually short for a patch.

[Kiivar86]

Wonder if it's an actual one, or something using it's model (could be WIP replacement). Kinda random to put a Genesaur there.

Related to this, there is that magnaron-like model that's been datamined. Only major differences it has with the Draenor magnaron is that it has two eyes (and some sort of head growth/carapace/rock) and tusks of some sort.

[Reive]

I'm thinking September is more likely too. Though that's a pretty long time for to just do season 4, timerunning & the pre-patch event, when only one of those things is actually new content. And don't count anything out considering BFA was released early August & they released 10.2 right before blizzcon.

But that would mean the anniversary event is coming out less than 6 weeks after launch considering it can't come out after the actual anniversary: That's unusually short for a patch.

imo, it's going to be like this:

10.2.7 in may
prepatch at the end of end of july/start of august (like they did with legion)
expansion at the start of september

mop remix is going to make the content drought feel less heavy

[Makabreska]

Related to this, there is that magnaron-like model that's been datamined. Only major differences it has with the Draenor magnaron is that it has two eyes (and some sort of head growth/carapace/rock) and tusks of some sort.

Could very well be a native underground being.

[Kiivar86]

Could very well be a native underground being.

I'm figuring that is the likely answer yes but it is still kind of curious. And in light of the genesaur, it is interesting to me and I wonder if it means something more.

[Cheezits]

Related to this, there is that magnaron-like model that's been datamined. Only major differences it has with the Draenor magnaron is that it has two eyes (and some sort of head growth/carapace/rock) and tusks of some sort.

Tusks you say?

Are we about to get a Magnaron -> Drogbar -> Troll -> Nelf reveal? I believe the Harronir leader has similar rune tattoos.

[Throren]

ya the fact thats the Magnaron model is almost completely unchanged except the face is interesting - usually if Blizzard was just re-using the rig of a past mob for a new one they'd at least change the model up or make its body like different - but the fact it has identical body, identical textures and markings as a regular Magnaron PLUS the fact that we seen a Genesaur down there....that cant be coincidence

*Puts on tin foil hat*

Ogres came from Magnaron that all had one eye
This Magnaron has two eyes and a set of forward tusks.....there is a mysterious troll/elf akin race down there and Zandalari trolls have scaly almost rock/stone like growths on their bodies...HMMM. Or Could be related to the Drogbar as well as I saw a flash of one in a pic of the Nerubian zone

[Cheezits]

ya the fact thats the Magnaron model is almost completely unchanged except the face is interesting - usually if Blizzard was just re-using the rig of a past mob for a new one they'd at least change the model up or make its body like different - but the fact it has identical body, identical textures and markings as a regular Magnaron PLUS the fact that we seen a Genesaur down there....that cant be coincidence

*Puts on tin foil hat*

Ogres came from Magnaron that all had one eye
This Magnaron has two eyes and a set of forward tusks.....there is a mysterious troll/elf akin race down there and Zandalari trolls have scaly almost rock/stone like growths on their bodies...HMMM. Or Could be related to the Drogbar as well as I saw a flash of one in a pic of the Nerubian zone

Yup, there's at least one drogbar traveling in Azj Kahet, and there's a Niffen town there (and we know the Niffen and Drogbar cooperate)

The question is... who made Azeroth Magnaron?

[Nightshade711]

PVP is so dead that they are killing RBGs outside of Blitz. They do not care.

If anything they will focus on Plunderstorm/whatever it will be called moving forward and maybe add a battle pass to blitz/shuffle.

I don’t know why they’re getting rid of regular RBGs, they should keep them for people who still want to build their teams and such…
Unless you can queue as teams for blitz but that would ruin the point I’d think.