The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[allegrian]

I just noticed that with horde earthen (dwarves), the horde now has 4 different playable models that can be paladins (BE, Zanda, Earthen, Tauren) vs 3 in the Alliance (Human, dwarf/DI/Earthen, dreaenei/LF), which is a bit silly given how paladin is the alliance flagship class.

Shaman, the horde flagship class on the other hand is available to 8 different playable models in the horde (counting zandalari and earthen) and 5 on the alliance.

[Alanar]

Well, that's still better than losing Vol'jin, a beloved and cool warchief after years of Garrosh, to a random felguard after doing nothing relevant as warchief.

And then making him be retroactivelly fooled into putting another crazed villain as warchief.

Ye, they did him dirty there. We are in luck maybe soon, hopefully hes return we be glorious as a golden infused loa.

[Lady Atia]

I just noticed that with horde earthen (dwarves), the horde now has 4 different playable models that can be paladins (BE, Zanda, Earthen, Tauren) vs 3 in the Alliance (Human, dwarf/DI/Earthen, dreaenei/LF), which is a bit silly given how paladin is the alliance flagship class.

Shaman, the horde flagship class on the other hand is available to 8 different playable models in the horde (counting zandalari and earthen) and 5 on the alliance.

Looks like you played too much classic lol.

[allegrian]

Looks like you played too much classic lol.

more than 200 hours in sod and a lvl 60 paladin in hc, so yep, maybe too much.

[Trazzle]

Yoooo dem appendages!

One step closer to a claw pack!!!!

[allegrian]

One step closer to a claw pack!!!!

Give one of those to a kul tiran alongside the round sun glasses and you know what you get.

[Dancaris]

I just noticed that with horde earthen (dwarves), the horde now has 4 different playable models that can be paladins (BE, Zanda, Earthen, Tauren) vs 3 in the Alliance (Human, dwarf/DI/Earthen, dreaenei/LF), which is a bit silly given how paladin is the alliance flagship class.

Shaman, the horde flagship class on the other hand is available to 8 different playable models in the horde (counting zandalari and earthen) and 5 on the alliance.

Still, even with 4 models - paladin is whole Alliance class. And btw Taurens are just Sun Druids, while Zandalari - priests.
Paladins, theirs faith, theirs Order Hall, their whole fantasy is Alliance-centric.
While Shamans are just more "fitting" some Horde races.

[Ersula]

It seems like Brinthe is going to be the Earthen leader for the Horde. Is there any indication who will be the Alliance Earthen Leader? Anyone wearing a lot of blue?

[allegrian]

Still, even with 4 models - paladin is whole Alliance class. And btw Taurens are just Sun Druids, while Zandalari - priests.
Paladins, theirs faith, theirs Order Hall, their whole fantasy is Alliance-centric.
While Shamans are just more "fitting" some Horde races.

Yeah I just meant from a gameplay perspective, you have more variety in playable races/models in the horde if you want to play paladin. In the alliance we've been stuck with human/dwarf/draenei since TBC, the first wow expansion. Worgen, Night Elves and Kul Tirans should be able to be paladins as well.

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It seems like Brinthe is going to be the Earthen leader for the Horde. Is there any indication who will be the Alliance Earthen Leader? Anyone wearing a lot of blue?

Where does that come from?

[Ersula]

Where does that come from?

Based on her being the one Earthen NPC wearing all red. Just like Firepaw was the one Pandarian wearing red. We know how this works already.

[allegrian]

Based on her being the one Earthen NPC wearing all red. Just like Firepaw was the one Pandarian wearing red. We know how this works already.

Could be, although I think they're going with earthen playable characters just being adventurers from the TWW zone that are exploring the world and joined whichever faction, I don't think important earthen leaders will join either faction politically, but we've yet to confirm this. Isn't the earthen AR intro quest/cinematic in the Alpha?

[Nymrohd]

Could be, although I think they're going with earthen playable characters just being adventurers from the TWW zone that are exploring the world and joined whichever faction, I don't think important earthen leaders will join either faction politically, but we've yet to confirm this. Isn't the earthen AR intro quest/cinematic in the Alpha?

I mean they did add a red and blue dracthyr Scalecommander so each faction could have a representative. I am sure they'll do something similar with two high ranking Earthen.

[Raetary]

Voidweaver spell animations look sick.

[allegrian]

I mean they did add a red and blue dracthyr Scalecommander so each faction could have a representative. I am sure they'll do something similar with two high ranking Earthen.

It's a bit different as dracthyr are a main race and have no place to go so they join the factions. Earthen have the same flavor text for both factions in the caracter creation screen and makes them look like individual adventurers that want to explore the world, but who knows. The flavor text says this:

"Newly freed of the edicts that bount them, the new earthen venture forth with limitless curiosity to explore the world and join the Alliance/Horde"

[Ersula]

Could be, although I think they're going with earthen playable characters just being adventurers from the TWW zone that are exploring the world and joined whichever faction, I don't think important earthen leaders will join either faction politically, but we've yet to confirm this. Isn't the earthen AR intro quest/cinematic in the Alpha?

Players can make Earthen for testing. We have the achievement but it seems like you have to complete the the TWW campaign questline for each zone to unlock them properly.

Generally we need a faction leader for the race to actually feel like part of the horde or alliance when the story dictates they have club meetings. We haven't had one of those for a while so people forget Azurathel, representing the Obsidian Watchers, is the leader of the Alliance Drakthyr & Cindrethresh of the Dark Talons is the leader of the Horde Drakthyr.

I assumed the introduction of the Unbound, Oathbound & Machine Speakers factions was to eventually represent Alliance, Horde & Neutral Earthen.

It's a bit different as dracthyr are a main race and have no place to go so they join the factions. Earthen have the same flavor text for both factions in the caracter creation screen and makes them look like individual adventurers that want to explore the world, but who knows.

So like Pandarians, who have Ji Firepaw & Aysa Cloudsinger

[allegrian]

Players can make Earthen for testing. We have the achievement but it seems like you have to complete the the TWW campaign questline for each zone to unlock them properly.

Generally we need a faction leader for the race to actually feel like part of the horde or alliance when the story dictates they have club meetings. We haven't had one of those for a while so people forget Azurathel, representing the Obsidian Watchers, is the leader of the Alliance Drakthyr & Cindrethresh of the Dark Talons is the leader of the Horde Drakthyr.

I assumed the introduction of the Unbound, Oathbound & Machine Speakers factions was to eventually represent Alliance, Horde & Neutral Earthen.

We'll have to wait and see. Did we see other earthen leaders with custom models? And the npc you said looks like a Machine Speaker.

[Auxis]

Voidweaver spell animations look sick.

I know. At the rate they are going with talents changes and hero specs, I'm gonna have a hard time choosing a main this expansion. But I guess Warbands make it possible to main multiple classes, so...

I just hope the core/capstones of the more passive Hero trees (Keeper of the Grove, the Resto-Cat one, Shado-pan, Soul Harvester (Affli/Demo), etc.) look as good

[allegrian]

I assumed the introduction of the Unbound, Oathbound & Machine Speakers factions was to eventually represent Alliance, Horde & Neutral Earthen.So like Pandarians, who have Ji Firepaw & Aysa Cloudsinger

Not the same, as those pandaren aren't actually from pandaria, but from the wandering isle that they leave behind (until Legion monk order hall), and they are a main race, so it's basically the same as dracthyr where they join each faction as their new home after losing theirs.

[Ersula]

Not the same, as those pandaren aren't actually from pandaria, but from the wandering isle that they leave behind (until Legion monk order hall), and they are a main race, so it's basically the same as dracthyr where they join each faction as their new home after losing theirs.

In that their race description is the same for each faction.

We'll have to wait and see. Did we see other earthen leaders with custom models? And the npc you said looks like a Machine Speaker.

I mean, I don't know which faction of Earthen is going to go with which group.

[allegrian]

In that their race description is the same for each faction.I mean, I don't know which faction of Earthen is going to go with which group.

I hope they don't to that "earthen faction" split. Just make the three factions neutral and let you make your earthen's headcanon be whatever you want. Horde earthen make little sense so its better to keep them as "allied individuals" than political affiliations.