The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Enrif]

Not sure what definition of funny you're going for there. Just spell your crazy theories out - if not here where else?

If you're saying the radiant song is not from Azeroth but from the crystal (against a lot of pretty unambiguous contrary evidence) - why now and not after the stab, when it started turning?

I think the more important question about Beledar is what makes it turn back to light? Because we know Naaru turn to void at the end of their life cycle, which can be accelerated by depleting it's energy through damage, so the whole turning to void is really not that big of a mystery. The turning back to light though isn't something that should happen as easily.

The same question could be said about azeroth. why the song now, not during BfA?

[Civciv]

The same question could be said about azeroth. why the song now, not during BfA?

Because Xal just started acting like Harbinger?

[Samin]

The same question could be said about azeroth. why the song now, not during BfA?

I would say it has something to do with the heavy "Awakening" theme of Dragonflight. We know she is waking up at least since the very active act of blessing the "Aspects" through Amirdrassil. She did communicate before to ask for help, just only through Magni.

[Enrif]

Because Xal just started acting like Harbinger?

And why? We had a stabbing of Sargeras, we had N'zoth another void creature doing stuff, we had the jailor literally draining Azeroth, But suddenly xal'ataht going around causes the song? That doesn't add up.

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I would say it has something to do with the heavy "Awakening" theme of Dragonflight. We know she is waking up at least since the very active act of blessing the "Aspects" through Amirdrassil. She did communicate before to ask for help, just only through Magni.

And yet, it was Magni who hasn't heard from Azeroth in a long time? And get a violent feedback for trying to hear her in TWW? Doesn't that sound suspicious?

[Samin]

And yet, it was Magni who hasn't heard from Azeroth in a long time? And get a violent feedback for trying to hear her in TWW? Doesn't that sound suspicious?

Maybe because he's using a metaphorical stethoscope to listen to someone shouting for help.

[Enrif]

Maybe because he's using a metaphorical stethoscope to listen to someone shouting for help.

Doesn't matter what he uses. People like Jaina, Anduin and Thrall get visions, just like that, with out any tool. But the "speaker of azeroth" doesn't get even a whisper?

Also, there is this what Anduin says about something that is found within Hallowfall.

Anduin: I've gotten a look at the crystals in their keyflames. It's not Azerite, but it is close enough that I think they are connected.

These crystals are the shard from Beledar, and it is not quite, but close to Azerite?
Azerite which happend to be blue and gold. Gold like the light?

There is a theory forming with this information. What if, Azeroths world soul is encapsuled? Like an egg? and the shell is a light based thing. Sargeras strike penetrated the shell, which caused azeroths arcane titan blood (blue) to wash out through the wounds and gather with it some of the light of the shell (gold), and forms the blue gold azerite we see in BfA. That the Beledar is falling to void after the stab, is because the shell is damaged. Knowing that it soon will fail completely, the light being of the Beledar might send out a call for help, the radiant song.

[Xilurm]

I wonder if they're making sure that the hero talent fantasy is going to be future proof. Like, making sure they keep the fantasy intact even if they have to balance it in the future.

[Raetary]

And why? We had a stabbing of Sargeras, we had N'zoth another void creature doing stuff, we had the jailor literally draining Azeroth, But suddenly xal'ataht going around causes the song? That doesn't add up.

It's not Xal doing things that causes the song, it's Azeroth having healed and developed enough to be able to exert her power and communicate on her own.

The first time people heard the song was after Amirdrassil bloomed:

Jaina and Thrall turn to each other.
Lady Jaina Proudmoore says: Well, old friend, it felt good to share a cause and fight side by side once more.
Thrall says: Yes, it did. Like on Mount Hyjal all those years ago.
Lady Jaina Proudmoore says: But thank the Light, this world tree did not fall.
Thrall says: Jaina... When Amirdrassil took root on Azeroth, for a moment it was as if... like there was...
Lady Jaina Proudmoore says: A voice? I heard it, too.
Thrall says: Good. I didn't imagine it.
Lady Jaina Proudmoore says: So beautiful. Like a song. It seemed to be calling out to me.
Thrall says: Could it be the voice of the World Tree?
Lady Jaina Proudmoore says: I don't think so. It sounded far more ancient. I'm not sure how I know that. It's just a feeling.
Thrall says: If we both heard it... felt it... maybe others did, too.
Lady Jaina Proudmoore says: Perhaps. But let's leave that investigation for another day. Tonight, we celebrate our victory.
Thrall says: All of us. Together.
Lady Jaina Proudmoore says: Together.

Which we know is directly connected to the World Soul, Azeroth uses it to bless the Aspects.

[huth]

I think people were more actively annoyed the origin of the Lich King as an entity was moved from the Legion to a new OC. Though they may be able to move it back with a reveal that KJ was in on it with Denathrius.

Even then, his involvement was basically providing Frostmourne and the helmet. Which is really not a major change to anything. These things get blown way out of proportion.

[Ersula]

Which we know is directly connected to the World Soul, Azeroth uses it to bless the Aspects.

Azeroth blessed the Aspects? Since when? The World Trees aren't even from this planet. This would make more sense if the song was from Elune.

[Pyrophax]

Azeroth blessed the Aspects? Since when? The World Trees aren't even from this planet. This would make more sense if the song was from Elune.

Stated in afterraid conversation by Aspects.

[Makorus]

Azeroth blessed the Aspects? Since when? The World Trees aren't even from this planet. This would make more sense if the song was from Elune.

I mean, the previous aspects were blessed by the Titans as well, so its not that weird?

[Enrif]

It's not Xal doing things that causes the song, it's Azeroth having healed and developed enough to be able to exert her power and communicate on her own.

The first time people heard the song was after Amirdrassil bloomed:


Which we know is directly connected to the World Soul, Azeroth uses it to bless the Aspects.

That is a good arguement. Had to look up the post Amirdrassil cinematic. The aspects state the blessing is from Azerothm but they don't mention any radiant song. Do we have any records of dragonkin hearing the radiant song?

[THEORACLE64]

we'll see.

i think just... isn't it funny, how that light crystal in hallowfall begun to turn to the void at the day azeroth was stabbed? The crystal seems to be quite far away from silithus, so why would the stab affect the crystal? Something that hurt azeroth, makes something that is light, turn void.

The only thing we’ll be seeing is how absolutely incorrect you are.

The only thing that wouldn’t surprise me is if the crystal in Hallowfall is some long crashed Naaru light ship. The Sword as well, being the size it is, it really isn’t that far from Silithus. Khaz’algar isn’t far off the coast.

[Sondrelk]

I wonder if they're making sure that the hero talent fantasy is going to be future proof. Like, making sure they keep the fantasy intact even if they have to balance it in the future.

I would imagine Hero Talents will be an ongoing process for at least the Worldsoul Saga. Maybe changing hero talents to a completely different theme and playstyle if they are rarely taken, or making some baseline if the opposite is true.

[Woggmer]

If you go too far in the other direction in terms of surprise, you get Benedictus, which felt like it came out of nowhere for the sake of parity.

Y'know the starting questline for the Twilight Highlands in the Alliance where (the player) and Anduin investigate a coup in Stormwind? Originally that was supposed to be Benedictus's doing but for some reason, it was cut out before it could be finalized.

[Civciv]

It's not Xal doing things that causes the song, it's Azeroth having healed and developed enough to be able to exert her power and communicate on her own.

The first time people heard the song was after Amirdrassil bloomed:


Which we know is directly connected to the World Soul, Azeroth uses it to bless the Aspects.

That's not the only reason people had visions.
"Khadgar: Locus-Walker said the ethereals heard a similar song before K'aresh was destroyed.
Jaina: Then is... Azeroth herself the one in danger? Is she speaking to us?"

[Raetary]

That's not the only reason people had visions.
"Khadgar: Locus-Walker said the ethereals heard a similar song before K'aresh was destroyed.
Jaina: Then is... Azeroth herself the one in danger? Is she speaking to us?"

???
Yeah?
She's feeling danger so she's reaching out, we know that.

My point was in reply to the question of why she is reaching out now when she hasn't done so before.

[Civciv]

???
Yeah?
She's feeling danger so she's reaching out, we know that.

My point was in reply to the question of why she is reaching out now when she hasn't done so before.

?????
Because she wasn't endangered by void lord Dimensius before. Like duhh??

[huth]

?????
Because she wasn't endangered by void lord Dimensius before. Like duhh??

She was still in danger of dying, though. I doubt the exact manner of death would be nearly as important as that.