The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

Having both Gorgonna and Thrall is a bit like having both Mr. and Mrs. Potatohead, but good to see Geya'rah's datamining turn up results. Here's to hoping she gets more to do, in particular re: the entire city of underground paladins and/or a tie-in with the Shadowmoon's void use being broadly accepted by the Mag'har.

Even more so, as Thrall wastes no time on performing the natural Horde orbiting function.

I wonder how they are going to neuter Geya'rah going forward. She was one of Sylvanas' main supporters when BfA still pretended the whole thing wasn't going to end up everyone learning a valuable lesson, and she has been out of the spotlight since.
She is far too important a character to get the Captain Rogers treatment of perpetual antagonism towards the other faction, so I wonder whether they will choose to have her learn that valuable lesson now, or if they will just pretend it didn't happen like what I imagine they will do with Talanji.

[Vakir]

Even more so, as Thrall wastes no time on performing the natural Horde orbiting function.

My fucking sides.

[Enrif]

I wonder how they are going to neuter Geya'rah going forward. She was one of Sylvanas' main supporters when BfA still pretended the whole thing wasn't going to end up everyone learning a valuable lesson, and she has been out of the spotlight since.
She is far too important a character to get the Captain Rogers treatment of perpetual antagonism towards the other faction, so I wonder whether they will choose to have her learn that valuable lesson now, or if they will just pretend it didn't happen like what I imagine they will do with Talanji.

from what i gathered, Gey'arah only followed Sylvanas, because she was the Warchief, not because she thought Sylvanas was in the right. And the mag'har never knew a live without a warchief. But apparently they pledged to stand with the horde, in peace or war.

[Super Dickmann]

I wonder how they are going to neuter Geya'rah going forward. She was one of Sylvanas' main supporters when BfA still pretended the whole thing wasn't going to end up everyone learning a valuable lesson, and she has been out of the spotlight since.
She is far too important a character to get the Captain Rogers treatment of perpetual antagonism towards the other faction, so I wonder whether they will choose to have her learn that valuable lesson now, or if they will just pretend it didn't happen like what I imagine they will do with Talanji.

Geya'rah is a tertiary character, so she and the Mag'har might actually get to stay true to their premise by sheer strength of irrelevance. Hell, Talanji and the Zandalari, far more important characters, got to stay out of sight and keep their grudges as of their last appearance.

If they were to melt her and our ersatz Iron Horde down into the primordial Anduinic mass, it won't be through Our Treasure, but instead by having her team up with Turalyon in a side gig and learn a lesson about how not all Lightforged are her enemy and it's really all about perspective.

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My fucking sides.

The name bug is the cherry on top.

[Lady Atia]

Nice, I woke up and got my Alpha Invite finally.

[Auxis]

Nice, I woke up and got my Alpha Invite finally.

*sad 'no-alpha' doot*

Ah well, with Remix starting up in a day or so and now having BFA Raids soloable - I think I'm pretty well-occupied.

[Valysar]

*sad 'no-alpha' doot*

Ah well, with Remix starting up in a day or so and now having BFA Raids soloable - I think I'm pretty well-occupied.

Yeah that's what I'm telling myself too

[Pyrophax]

Can you drop the photo in a spoiler tag for us non-twitter users? Won't come up!

Lack of Monte lad is odd. And far more blue team then red, but that is not surprising.
What Danath and Kurdran even do there? Search for Khadgar?
And Gorgronna and Geyara presence is welcome, but odd choise.

[Chickat]

What zones are playable this build?

[Samin]

I look forward to joining this thread now and again post-release lol. I'm averting my eyes knowing there are like a billion spoilers here.

Yeah I'm kind of curious why some people spoiler tag. I assumed this thread specifically was a no-holds barred spoiler zone.

[Auxis]

Totemic would be better if a Tauren Enh shaman could use a certain 2h mace they got recently from a Tauren centric questline..

Just sayin'

But in all seriousness, I like how it's an earth magic spec - what with the core talent creating tremors.

[Nymrohd]

What zones are playable this build?

All of them have been since the previous build.

[Ksgrip]

Turalyon will most likely backstab all of these people like the good little Light zealot that he is.

I mean look at him, surrounded by Orcs and not going going on a murder spree? Pfff, not happening.

I Really thought they would have forgotten him

[Enrif]

Lack of Monte lad is odd. And far more blue team then red, but that is not surprising.
What Danath and Kurdran even do there? Search for Khadgar?
And Gorgronna and Geyara presence is welcome, but odd choise.

I think all these choices make sense. Alleria and Khadgar are friends to Kurdran and Danath, so it makes sense for them to appear and help their friends. Kurdran also doubles down on Moira being there and having dealings with the earthen. Danath, the last ruler of the kingdom of Strom of the Arathi Highlands, and Turalion, General of the army of light will have deals with the Arathi for sure. So, the alliance side makes a ton of sense to be there.

As for the horde. Let's be honest, the Horde, especially the Orcs NEED to build up face character that are not old. Eitrigg and Drek'thar are old. Most other orc npcs are not that well known by now. Using Thrall to get in Gey'arah and Gorgonna to build them up for the future is great.

[Nymrohd]

is Totemic a decent tree for Enh? I’ve only played Ele this expan and with how disappointing stormbringer it would be nice for one spec to get a good tree.

It looks solid to me. It actually adds some interactions (with plenty of Hero Talents being almost entirely passive), it improves Windfury and makes it passive. The theme is distinct and works with any shaman regardless of race or archetype and imo it seems much more successful at it than e.g. Stormbringer who will still depend on the lava theme to work properly.

[Lady Atia]

Not gonna lie, dark ranger feels quite underwhelming right now haha.

Also, I was right last night, all the tier sets are now hooked up in the sets tab, so if anyone is interested which tints are elite ones just ask.

[Mekkle]

impressed with totemic so far, thought it was gonnna be tragic

[Sondrelk]

Not gonna lie, dark ranger feels quite underwhelming right now haha.

Also, I was right last night, all the tier sets are now hooked up in the sets tab, so if anyone is interested which tints are elite ones just ask.

Mind checking which variant is the elite set for Evoker? I need to figure out whether it's time to cry in a corner.

I want to believe the classic Deathwing variant is available, but after Amirdrassil made a Nozdormu themed set and hid the tint that actually looks like it behind Elite I can't make any assumptions anymore.

[Nymrohd]

impressed with totemic so far, thought it was gonnna be tragic

Well nearly the entire tree is NYI right now but what I can read seems solid. Will have to wait for at least another build until it can actually be tested. And it does seem to suck for Resto in M+ or PvP but I only play resto for raiding . . .

[Lady Atia]

Mind checking which variant is the elite set for Evoker? I need to figure out whether it's time to cry in a corner.

I want to believe the classic Deathwing variant is available, but after Amirdrassil made a Nozdormu themed set and hid the tint that actually looks like it behind Elite I can't make any assumptions anymore.

Sure here it is - tbf, I will only try to get mage and priest next season, everyone else kinda got the worst colours for the elite one haha.



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Classic Deathwing is heroic, Shadowflame is mythic.